The IRISH RUGBY thread

[JPGJOHNNYG]

I know Japan are at home, beat South Africa last world Cup, but they are basically a tier 2 nation who got hammered by a new look South Africa, while we were 1 of 5 teams with an eye on winning it. Sexton in hindsight carrying this team. We came as no:1 team but leave rated 6 or 7.A tier 2 team can play good rugby playing among the backs, we still stuck in the 90's just using forwards, with no back gameplan

Catch yourself on ffs

In fairness not thst long ago we were but the last 12mths the form has dropped off a cliff and not much has been done to rectify it

[gallsman]

Nearly a year ago! Since the All Blacks we've been brutal and one win against a brutal Scotland team and a b team game against Wales doesn't change that.

Anyone who genuinely thought Ireland were going to Japan with even an outside shot needs their head examined. Most of the chat beforehand was about, assuming, we made it out of the group, whether the springboks or all blacks would annihilate us the most.

[Solo_run]

Just need Scotland to beat Japan by 9 points and everything is Rosey again.

We simply do not have the depth to put in a second team. A huge mistake by management today putting out a weaker team, just goes to show you there was a serious understating of Japan's ability to play Rugby.

Should have won the two opening games and then make changes to key personnel.

[RedHand88]

Ireland don't enjoy playing in hot conditions. The big defeat to England last month was also played on a very hot day. We are still not out of it and still got a losing bonus point today.

It was not very hot.

[Captain Obvious]

Humbled by the Japanese. Yet another World Cup where the Irish are flattering to deceive.

[gallsman]

Just need Scotland to beat Japan by 9 points and everything is Rosey again.

We simply do not have the depth to put in a second team. A huge mistake by management today putting out a weaker team, just goes to show you there was a serious understating of Japan's ability to play Rugby.

Should have won the two opening games and then make changes to key personnel.

Based on the games they've played to date, is there any reason whatsoever to think the Scots are capable of this?

Japan didn't win today through reckless, fearless rugby that paid off. They took us on up front and dominated is. Other than the opening quarter they executed their gameplan perfectly.

[straightred]

Just need Scotland to beat Japan by 9 points and everything is Rosey again.

We simply do not have the depth to put in a second team. A huge mistake by management today putting out a weaker team, just goes to show you there was a serious understating of Japan's ability to play Rugby.

Should have won the two opening games and then make changes to key personnel.

Based on the games they've played to date, is there any reason whatsoever to think the Scots are capable of this?

Japan didn't win today through reckless, fearless rugby that paid off. They took us on up front and dominated is. Other than the opening quarter they executed their gameplan perfectly.

Fixtures are well set up for Japan. They play Samoa on the 5th and Scotland on the 13th. Scotland play russia on the 9th and Japan on the 13th. Big difference in turnaround time

[Boycey]

There are a lot of yis quite happy they were beaten, strange lot..

[Capt Pat]

Ireland don't enjoy playing in hot conditions. The big defeat to England last month was also played on a very hot day. We are still not out of it and still got a losing bonus point today.

It was not very hot.

Very hot for a game of rugby which in Ireland is a winter sport.

[RedHand88]

Ireland don't enjoy playing in hot conditions. The big defeat to England last month was also played on a very hot day. We are still not out of it and still got a losing bonus point today.

It was not very hot.

Very hot for a game of rugby which in Ireland is a winter sport.

It was hotter in Dublin a month ago. Were they training in a fridge?

[Solo_run]

Just need Scotland to beat Japan by 9 points and everything is Rosey again.

We simply do not have the depth to put in a second team. A huge mistake by management today putting out a weaker team, just goes to show you there was a serious understating of Japan's ability to play Rugby.

Should have won the two opening games and then make changes to key personnel.

Based on the games they've played to date, is there any reason whatsoever to think the Scots are capable of this?

Japan didn't win today through reckless, fearless rugby that paid off. They took us on up front and dominated is. Other than the opening quarter they executed their gameplan perfectly.

Scotland have everything to play for assuming nothing goes wrong for them during the rest of this tournament and unlike Ireland they will have to play their best available 15 which Ireland should have done today.

A lot of things went right for Japan today along with playing incredibly disciplined rugby. Ireland not scoring anything in the second half was embarassing.

Japan should be respected in world rugby and while the initial thoughts are "wow, this is embarassing for us" you have to realise Japan are a top 10 rugby team. So are Scotland and we have lost to them before.

I don't think I can forgive the management for changing the team when it was essentially a game that would see us out of the group stages. Now we can't afford to rest players for the next two games.

[gallsman]

There are a lot of yis quite happy they were beaten, strange lot..

Really? I haven't read one part expressing happiness or pleasure with the result.

[rodney trotter]

In fairness Top 10 ranking doesn't mean a lot compared to soccer. There is only a handful of Rugby playing countries. It's good to see teams like Japan emerge. They don't play boring kick rugby, very slick with the hands.

[screenexile]

Horrible performance against a team who were at the top of their game.

Not good enough it's a huge blow to confidence having 2 really bad performances in such a short space of time.

Obviously the other 2 matches are formalities but not the momentum you want when a big game looms in a few weeks!

I fancy Japan to beat the Scots.

[An Watcher]

If the Scots beat the Japanese can we still win the group?