The IRISH RUGBY thread

[seafoid]

It's harsh because you are telling Connacht that you will never better yourself and to get used to it. It may be a fair assessment of the reality of the situation, but I can't believe how you could not see that to be harsh.

No am I telling Connacht that their player where the fans ire should directed not the IRFU has chosen to go to another club because a) he will gain financially from it and b) he has more chance of success. That is the nature of professional sport a

the nature of pro rugby is that you have more chance of brain damage

[deiseach]

Putting aside hair-splitting over words, Dinny's invocation of Bruce Hornsby when it comes to Irish rugby is both right and wrong. Right, because that's just the way it is. Wrong, because it's messed up that Irish rugby should have to look for the crumbs that fall from the English and French tables and be made to feel grateful for it. It's hard to have too much sympathy for the IRFU though. In 1999 they faced down the English when it came to the rights for the Five Nations. I remember being dead impressed by an IRFU old fart who reacted to being told the opinion of an RFU old fart, that Ireland somehow owed England for turning up in 1973 after our Celtic brethren had failed to do so in 1972, by thundering that it was England's DUTY to fulfill that fixture. The IRFU realised in 1999 that the big boys needed to someone to play against if they were to prosper. Six years later though they were happy to take Sky's filthy lucre. It may have seemed smart at the time, but when the English and French clubs made their deal with BT there was no room to appeal to DUTY. As Bruce Hornsby didn't say, you're going to reap just what you sow...

[seafoid]

It's harsh because you are telling Connacht that you will never better yourself and to get used to it. It may be a fair assessment of the reality of the situation, but I can't believe how you could not see that to be harsh.

No am I telling Connacht that their player where the fans ire should directed not the IRFU has chosen to go to another club because a) he will gain financially from it and b) he has more chance of success. That is the nature of professional sport, why did Sterling leave Liverpool?

Connacht are on a upward curve and maybe someday when they are financially viable they might be able to retain their best players, Leinster have loaned Gilsenan, Cooney and Roux this season, if Connacht didn't want to lose Henshaw to Leinster, should they be taking players on loan from Leinster, perhaps the Connacht management need to be asked their views?

The romantic wants to see Henshaw stay I appreciate that, but same in most professional sports outside a wages cap, money talks money wins. For a young man it's the right decision.

And for the record I hope Connacht win the Pro12, I am not a Leinster fan and I am just a rugby fan that sees it differently that all you romantic feckers.

It must be funny putting on the rugby hat, Dinny. The GAA power structures no longer apply so Connacht becomes the diol trua. In the GAA being from Kildare even though it is in Leinster is much more painful. Funny old sporting world...money and not

[Dinny Breen]

It's harsh because you are telling Connacht that you will never better yourself and to get used to it. It may be a fair assessment of the reality of the situation, but I can't believe how you could not see that to be harsh.

No am I telling Connacht that their player where the fans ire should directed not the IRFU has chosen to go to another club because a) he will gain financially from it and b) he has more chance of success. That is the nature of professional sport, why did Sterling leave Liverpool?

Connacht are on a upward curve and maybe someday when they are financially viable they might be able to retain their best players, Leinster have loaned Gilsenan, Cooney and Roux this season, if Connacht didn't want to lose Henshaw to Leinster, should they be taking players on loan from Leinster, perhaps the Connacht management need to be asked their views?

The romantic wants to see Henshaw stay I appreciate that, but same in most professional sports outside a wages cap, money talks money wins. For a young man it's the right decision.

And for the record I hope Connacht win the Pro12, I am not a Leinster fan and I am just a rugby fan that sees it differently that all you romantic feckers.

It must be funny putting on the rugby hat, Dinny. The GAA power structures no longer apply so Connacht becomes the diol trua. In the GAA being from Kildare even though it is in Leinster is much more painful. Funny old sporting world...money and not

Absolutely, the IRFU support and fund Connacht far better than the GAA support and fund the likes of Kildare.

[seafoid]

It's harsh because you are telling Connacht that you will never better yourself and to get used to it. It may be a fair assessment of the reality of the situation, but I can't believe how you could not see that to be harsh.

No am I telling Connacht that their player where the fans ire should directed not the IRFU has chosen to go to another club because a) he will gain financially from it and b) he has more chance of success. That is the nature of professional sport, why did Sterling leave Liverpool?

Connacht are on a upward curve and maybe someday when they are financially viable they might be able to retain their best players, Leinster have loaned Gilsenan, Cooney and Roux this season, if Connacht didn't want to lose Henshaw to Leinster, should they be taking players on loan from Leinster, perhaps the Connacht management need to be asked their views?

The romantic wants to see Henshaw stay I appreciate that, but same in most professional sports outside a wages cap, money talks money wins. For a young man it's the right decision.

And for the record I hope Connacht win the Pro12, I am not a Leinster fan and I am just a rugby fan that sees it differently that all you romantic feckers.

It must be funny putting on the rugby hat, Dinny. The GAA power structures no longer apply so Connacht becomes the diol trua. In the GAA being from Kildare even though it is in Leinster is much more painful. Funny old sporting world...money and not

Absolutely, the IRFU support and fund Connacht far better than the GAA support and fund the likes of Kildare.

The power dynamics are different. But for Syferus they are the same.

[seafoid]

George hook gives it bhfaca tu

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/comment-analysis/george-hook-french-defeat-was-an-insult-to-entertainment-joe-schmidt-is-living-a-charmed-life-34453148.html

[Dinny Breen]

George hook gives it bhfaca tu

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/comment-analysis/george-hook-french-defeat-was-an-insult-to-entertainment-joe-schmidt-is-living-a-charmed-life-34453148.html

Who still listens to George Hook? In fact whoever listened to George Hook?

This might interest you Seafoid.

https://www.layahealthcare.ie/headon/

[seafoid]

George hook gives it bhfaca tu

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/comment-analysis/george-hook-french-defeat-was-an-insult-to-entertainment-joe-schmidt-is-living-a-charmed-life-34453148.html

Who still listens to George Hook? In fact whoever listened to George Hook?

This might interest you Seafoid.

https://www.layahealthcare.ie/headon/

Thanks Dinny. lots of Indo readers probably listen to him. I think he is bang on about Schmidt leading a charmed life

[Bord na Mona man]

George Hook does Statler and Waldorf for every Irish coach...

Waldorf: That was wonderful!
Statler: Bravo!
Waldorf: I loved it!
Statler: That was great!
Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.
Statler: Well, It wasn't bad.
Waldorf: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.
Statler: It could've been a lot better.
Waldorf: I didn't really like it.
Statler: It was pretty terrible.
Waldorf: It was bad.
Statler: It was awful!
Both: Terrible! Eh, boo!

[seafoid]

George Hook does Statler and Waldorf for every Irish coach...

Waldorf: That was wonderful!
Statler: Bravo!
Waldorf: I loved it!
Statler: That was great!
Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.
Statler: Well, It wasn't bad.
Waldorf: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.
Statler: It could've been a lot better.
Waldorf: I didn't really like it.
Statler: It was pretty terrible.
Waldorf: It was bad.
Statler: It was awful!
Both: Terrible! Eh, boo!

all coaching careers end in failure. Even Cody's will.

[AZOffaly]

George Hook does Statler and Waldorf for every Irish coach...

Waldorf: That was wonderful!
Statler: Bravo!
Waldorf: I loved it!
Statler: That was great!
Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.
Statler: Well, It wasn't bad.
Waldorf: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.
Statler: It could've been a lot better.
Waldorf: I didn't really like it.
Statler: It was pretty terrible.
Waldorf: It was bad.
Statler: It was awful!
Both: Terrible! Eh, boo!

all coaching careers end in failure. Even Cody's will.

Not necessarily. Some people walk away on top. Alex Ferguson for example.

[seafoid]

George Hook does Statler and Waldorf for every Irish coach...

Waldorf: That was wonderful!
Statler: Bravo!
Waldorf: I loved it!
Statler: That was great!
Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.
Statler: Well, It wasn't bad.
Waldorf: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.
Statler: It could've been a lot better.
Waldorf: I didn't really like it.
Statler: It was pretty terrible.
Waldorf: It was bad.
Statler: It was awful!
Both: Terrible! Eh, boo!

all coaching careers end in failure. Even Cody's will.

Not necessarily. Some people walk away on top. Alex Ferguson for example.

Including succession planning ?

[Tony Baloney]

George Hook does Statler and Waldorf for every Irish coach...

Waldorf: That was wonderful!
Statler: Bravo!
Waldorf: I loved it!
Statler: That was great!
Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.
Statler: Well, It wasn't bad.
Waldorf: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.
Statler: It could've been a lot better.
Waldorf: I didn't really like it.
Statler: It was pretty terrible.
Waldorf: It was bad.
Statler: It was awful!
Both: Terrible! Eh, boo!

all coaching careers end in failure. Even Cody's will.

Not necessarily. Some people walk away on top. Alex Ferguson for example.

That is a short list. BOD a recent example.

[Walter Cronc]

Cant praise these reports highly enough. Top drawer!

http://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-attack-france-six-nations-2016-2605384-Feb2016/

[AZOffaly]

George Hook does Statler and Waldorf for every Irish coach...

Waldorf: That was wonderful!
Statler: Bravo!
Waldorf: I loved it!
Statler: That was great!
Waldorf: Well, it was pretty good.
Statler: Well, It wasn't bad.
Waldorf: There were parts that weren't pretty good, though.
Statler: It could've been a lot better.
Waldorf: I didn't really like it.
Statler: It was pretty terrible.
Waldorf: It was bad.
Statler: It was awful!
Both: Terrible! Eh, boo!

all coaching careers end in failure. Even Cody's will.

Not necessarily. Some people walk away on top. Alex Ferguson for example.

That is a short list. BOD a recent example.

He's talking about coaches. A few coaches would have retired or gone out on top, or at least not ending in failure. Liam Sheedy in Tipperary is another. Bob Paisley at Liverpool.

Never mind me, I'm just being a pedant Oh, and Succession planning not included