The IRISH RUGBY thread

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square_ball

#12585
February 27, 2024, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on February 27, 2024, 10:27:46 AMIn my own head from memory I think Crowley is definitely better than Sexton was at the same point in his career.

While Sexton was a late bloomer, at 24 (same age as Crowley) he was the starting 10 in Leinsters first European Cup win and as said above ROG was very much the established 10 for Ireland. I do like Crowley though think he has good potential. He is much better than the other contenders at 10. The Irish pack are an absolute dream to play behind at the minute though in fairness. It has allowed him to ease into the position a wee bit more than if Ireland weren't so dominant.

Bord na Mona man

#12586
February 28, 2024, 01:25:49 PM
Sexton's big break came when Felipe Contepomi pulled up injured in the '09 HC semi in Croke Park. After that he was in the driving seat and in fairness to him, he saw Leinster over the line for their first Heineken.

Dislodging ROG wasn't the only challenge Sexton - he was the better player and ROG's poor big tournament record meant he needed to be put out to grass anyway.
The Munster PR machine was at full throttle in this era, and they really hated the idea of their 'ligind' being usurped by some pup who yelled in ROG's face. That created the noise and sense of 'big debate' about the 10 jersey, when there really shouldn't have been any.

thewobbler

#12587
February 28, 2024, 01:30:44 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 28, 2024, 01:25:49 PMSexton's big break came when Felipe Contepomi pulled up injured in the '09 HC semi in Croke Park. After that he was in the driving seat and in fairness to him, he saw Leinster over the line for their first Heineken.

Dislodging ROG wasn't the only challenge Sexton - he was the better player and ROG's poor big tournament record meant he needed to be put out to grass anyway.
The Munster PR machine was at full throttle in this era, and they really hated the idea of their 'ligind' being usurped by some pup who yelled in ROG's face. That created the noise and sense of 'big debate' about the 10 jersey, when there really shouldn't have been any.


Lol fully agree with your assessment on ROG vs Sexton.

O'Gara wasn't as good as Humphreys, in just about every aspect of play, and both were a good few steps behind Sexton. The the media dined out on both stories for a few years.

Bord na Mona man

#12588
February 28, 2024, 01:53:54 PM
It's a great way of manufacturing publicity though - Blur vs. Oasis.
Others fed it though. RTE with their camera cuts to the 10 on the bench after a kick gets missed or nailed.

The problem was that the debate lingered far too long.
And it surely contributed to Kidney losing his nerve and restoring ROG to 10 during the 2011 WC and Ireland invariably crashing out.

Applesisapples

#12589
February 28, 2024, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 28, 2024, 01:30:44 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 28, 2024, 01:25:49 PMSexton's big break came when Felipe Contepomi pulled up injured in the '09 HC semi in Croke Park. After that he was in the driving seat and in fairness to him, he saw Leinster over the line for their first Heineken.

Dislodging ROG wasn't the only challenge Sexton - he was the better player and ROG's poor big tournament record meant he needed to be put out to grass anyway.
The Munster PR machine was at full throttle in this era, and they really hated the idea of their 'ligind' being usurped by some pup who yelled in ROG's face. That created the noise and sense of 'big debate' about the 10 jersey, when there really shouldn't have been any.


Lol fully agree with your assessment on ROG vs Sexton.

O'Gara wasn't as good as Humphreys, in just about every aspect of play, and both were a good few steps behind Sexton. The the media dined out on both stories for a few years.
To be fair he yelled incite a few faces at half time in  that game.

Tony Baloney

#12591
March 06, 2024, 09:24:36 PM
I'd say Porter will be in for a rough ride in the scrum this weekend. England will be after scrum pens for the get go.

Tony Baloney

#12592
March 09, 2024, 10:35:27 AM
Good finish to the u20s match last night although the ref was fairly generous with that last advantage! Some big units on both teams

screenexile

#12593
March 09, 2024, 02:29:59 PM
Scotland well on top but thought Italy could have had a couple of calls before both tries.

gallsman

#12594
March 09, 2024, 02:42:47 PM
Gardner is absolutely riding the Italians.

screenexile

#12595
March 09, 2024, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2024, 09:24:36 PMI'd say Porter will be in for a rough ride in the scrum this weekend. England will be after scrum pens for the get go.

I know the rugby press love to fawn over the team but some of the commentary this week has been ridicilous.

"Irish rugby fans need to embrace arrogance - it'll make hammering England on Saturday that much more fun"

What the f**k is that??



gallsman

#12596
March 09, 2024, 03:46:37 PM
Who said that?!

Wildweasel74

#12598
March 09, 2024, 03:53:56 PM
Scotland in trouble

Wildweasel74

#12599
March 09, 2024, 03:59:08 PM
How many replays does a ref need, they worse than var, nearly looking a reason to bin a man.
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