The IRISH RUGBY thread

[Wildweasel74]

If you call someone a bad name, with a colour reference in front of it, which is the offensive term, the colour or the actually word. Curry technically White, the other word, I fair gather he probably is too!

[RedHand88]

A lengthy ban is the only option if he is found guilty. Absolutely no place for that.

Though I see "white side" in Afrikaans is very similar to the alleged slur.

[Wildweasel74]

Yes it is indeed!

[Milltown Row2]

Taking this definition at its word, then, would suggest that it is possible for a person of any race to experience racism if someone treats them badly for this reason – even white people.

But this definition of racism leaves out one crucial element: The power structures that uphold and perpetuate racism.

Racism doesn't exist in a vacuum. It exists within a hierarchical structure with power at its core. Racism only works because one group has power and other groups do not.

And it is white people who – historically, and in the West at least – hold the power when it comes to racial divides, thanks to centuries of Eurocentric beliefs and structures that continue to privilege and centre whiteness.

[burdizzo]

Taking this definition at its word, then, would suggest that it is possible for a person of any race to experience racism if someone treats them badly for this reason – even white people.

But this definition of racism leaves out one crucial element: The power structures that uphold and perpetuate racism.

Racism doesn't exist in a vacuum. It exists within a hierarchical structure with power at its core. Racism only works because one group has power and other groups do not.

And it is white people who – historically, and in the West at least – hold the power when it comes to racial divides, thanks to centuries of Eurocentric beliefs and structures that continue to privilege and centre whiteness.

Uh, this is your second time posting this exact same thing. Not get enough reaction the first time?!

[Milltown Row2]

Taking this definition at its word, then, would suggest that it is possible for a person of any race to experience racism if someone treats them badly for this reason – even white people.

But this definition of racism leaves out one crucial element: The power structures that uphold and perpetuate racism.

Racism doesn't exist in a vacuum. It exists within a hierarchical structure with power at its core. Racism only works because one group has power and other groups do not.

And it is white people who – historically, and in the West at least – hold the power when it comes to racial divides, thanks to centuries of Eurocentric beliefs and structures that continue to privilege and centre whiteness.

Uh, this is your second time posting this exact same thing. Not get enough reaction the first time?!

Seems not, this is from a black journalist writer podcast Twitter her point is simple. Should be simple enough to understand I'd thought

[Armagh18]

A lengthy ban is the only option if he is found guilty. Absolutely no place for that.

Though I see "white side" in Afrikaans is very similar to the alleged slur.

I seen that as well. Sounds more likely of an explanation to me.

[burdizzo]

A lengthy ban is the only option if he is found guilty. Absolutely no place for that.

Though I see "white side" in Afrikaans is very similar to the alleged slur.

I seen that as well. Sounds more likely of an explanation to me.

Why would you call someone 'white side'?! Obviously, England play in white, but why would you say that to Curry?
Anyway, who cares.

[LeoMc]

A lengthy ban is the only option if he is found guilty. Absolutely no place for that.

Though I see "white side" in Afrikaans is very similar to the alleged slur.

I seen that as well. Sounds more likely of an explanation to me.

Why would you call someone 'white side'?! Obviously, England play in white, but why would you say that to Curry?
Anyway, who cares.

If you are speaking in Afrikaans and want to indicate the ball came out on Englands side, the white side you might say Wit Kaant.

[burdizzo]

A lengthy ban is the only option if he is found guilty. Absolutely no place for that.

Though I see "white side" in Afrikaans is very similar to the alleged slur.

I seen that as well. Sounds more likely of an explanation to me.

Why would you call someone 'white side'?! Obviously, England play in white, but why would you say that to Curry?
Anyway, who cares.

If you are speaking in Afrikaans and want to indicate the ball came out on Englands side, the white side you might say Wit Kaant.

Yeah, and that lad would speak Afrikaans as his first language?! Seems he hasn't been cited, in any case.

[gallsman]

I don't know the specifics of whether Mbonambi speaks Afrikaans or not, but you're revealing you don't have the slightest clue about it as a language and who it's spoken by. It has long since moved on from being a language of Dutch farmers.

[Armagh18]

A lengthy ban is the only option if he is found guilty. Absolutely no place for that.

Though I see "white side" in Afrikaans is very similar to the alleged slur.

I seen that as well. Sounds more likely of an explanation to me.

Why would you call someone 'white side'?! Obviously, England play in white, but why would you say that to Curry?
Anyway, who cares.

If you are speaking in Afrikaans and want to indicate the ball came out on Englands side, the white side you might say Wit Kaant.

Yeah, and that lad would speak Afrikaans as his first language?! Seems he hasn't been cited, in any case.

He probably does, yes

[tonto1888]

I don't think curry was trying anything cute. I'd say it was a genuine case of misunderstanding

[Mikhail Prokhorov]

24 teams now at the rugby world cup, jesus wept, more glorified training games

[Blowitupref]

England looking to win this 3rd place contest as early as possible. Not a big surprise after England's competitive semi final performance and Argentina off the back of a heavy defeat.