Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019

Started by Dinny Breen, April 10, 2018, 11:01:34 AM

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Jinxy

Quote from: thejuice on July 07, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
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Wicklow and Kildare tomorrow will be interesting.
Kildare hammered Laois in the group stage as well.
Come on Wicklow, you owe us... for nothing in particular.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: Hound on July 07, 2018, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2018, 10:18:13 AM

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Is that a tad disingenious Dinny?

You went to Res Dubs "looking for honest reaction" and picked out some knob saying "c***" rather than a post by what seems a reasonable poster who was actually at the game?

Just back from the game. It was what it was, the sum total of Kildare's football ability was greater then ours, so they won. We can't win it every year.

Our kickout strategy, both for and against was a bit insane though. We left one of their guys free on the half way line for a lot of their kick outs, it was a bit insane to see. For our kick outs, I don't really know what to say, the big high floaty kickout went out about 10 years ago, kicking to the opposition was never really in, so there wasn't really a lot going for them. They did change it up a bit in the second half though and it was better. If we had sorted out kickouts, it would have been closer.

But the big takeaway for me from the game is that the GAA going public are going insane! It can't just be Kildare fans (there were shag all Dublin fans there to make a comparison), but the roaring and abuse at the ref was mental. A guy beside me, with spittle coming out of his mouth, stood and demanded a free because three Dublin guys were tackling a Kildare player, and that's a 'third man tackle'! And that is typical, every time a Dublin guy went on any solo run, everyone roared 'steps' as if he wasn't allowed take one step.

It was extreme and very uncomfortable and unejoyable. Who do these people think they are that they can ruin the evening of people around them because they want to. They wound themselves up into such a collective frenzy that 3 oul' lads after the game went up to the ref and called him everything under the sun- they had just won by 9 points for god sake.

It's pure selfishness and nothing else, and for some reason U20 / U21 is often the worst for it. I think that is probably the last football game at that grade I go to.


The bold bit is me highlighting the most important part of that post

PS the same poster said a number of times afterwards the reaction of the fans is something he's seeing more and more across all counties, including Dublin, and it's not Kildare alone by any means

Hardly, Reservoir Dogs Under age threads are normally informative, for example it's how I learned that most of Dublin's team are under age again next year. That tends to give perspective. If that poster wants to high light referee abuse, that's fine it should be, however for other poster's to weigh in and call Kildare supporters c*unts reflects badly on that forum.
#newbridgeornowhere

Hound

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 07, 2018, 11:07:18 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 06, 2018, 10:41:34 PM
At least it'll stop the nonsense about how we "look after" 70 or 80 lads at this age group  ::)
Still doesn't hide the fact that Dublin have the U20 development squad running along with their county team

And it will continue to run through autumn
So Dublin have probably 35 men on their U20 panel. Any year you might get between 2 and 6 who'll progress to the senior panel. They've no doubt already identifed the 10 or 12 who have the best chance, and the other 20 odd have realistically very little chance of making the senior panel.

But, hey, let's have another 20 or 30 lads in a ghost U20 panel, who have little chance of playing for the Dubs U20, and therefore barely a hope in hell of playing for the Dubs. But still we'll take these lads away from their clubs for the craic!

Seeing as you know so much of this ghost panel, maybe you can give us 5 or 6 names? Did the same lad who told you this also tell you that none of the Dubs work. All this stuff about them being teachers, accountants, running their own business, etc is all subterfuge  8)

Hound

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 07:09:36 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 07, 2018, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2018, 10:18:13 AM

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Is that a tad disingenious Dinny?

You went to Res Dubs "looking for honest reaction" and picked out some knob saying "c***" rather than a post by what seems a reasonable poster who was actually at the game?

Just back from the game. It was what it was, the sum total of Kildare's football ability was greater then ours, so they won. We can't win it every year.

Our kickout strategy, both for and against was a bit insane though. We left one of their guys free on the half way line for a lot of their kick outs, it was a bit insane to see. For our kick outs, I don't really know what to say, the big high floaty kickout went out about 10 years ago, kicking to the opposition was never really in, so there wasn't really a lot going for them. They did change it up a bit in the second half though and it was better. If we had sorted out kickouts, it would have been closer.

But the big takeaway for me from the game is that the GAA going public are going insane! It can't just be Kildare fans (there were shag all Dublin fans there to make a comparison), but the roaring and abuse at the ref was mental. A guy beside me, with spittle coming out of his mouth, stood and demanded a free because three Dublin guys were tackling a Kildare player, and that's a 'third man tackle'! And that is typical, every time a Dublin guy went on any solo run, everyone roared 'steps' as if he wasn't allowed take one step.

It was extreme and very uncomfortable and unejoyable. Who do these people think they are that they can ruin the evening of people around them because they want to. They wound themselves up into such a collective frenzy that 3 oul' lads after the game went up to the ref and called him everything under the sun- they had just won by 9 points for god sake.

It's pure selfishness and nothing else, and for some reason U20 / U21 is often the worst for it. I think that is probably the last football game at that grade I go to.


The bold bit is me highlighting the most important part of that post

PS the same poster said a number of times afterwards the reaction of the fans is something he's seeing more and more across all counties, including Dublin, and it's not Kildare alone by any means

Hardly, Reservoir Dogs Under age threads are normally informative, for example it's how I learned that most of Dublin's team are under age again next year. That tends to give perspective. If that poster wants to high light referee abuse, that's fine it should be, however for other poster's to weigh in and call Kildare supporters c*unts reflects badly on that forum.
Agreed.
Not sure if there's a Kildare forum, but I'd imagine if there was, there'd be a bit of Dub-bashing too! But that doesn't excuse it.

Kuwabatake Sanjuro

Quote from: Jinxy on July 07, 2018, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: thejuice on July 07, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
Full time

5-18
0-08

Wicklow and Kildare tomorrow will be interesting.
Kildare hammered Laois in the group stage as well.
Come on Wicklow, you owe us... for nothing in particular.

Wicklow proving to be a long way ahead of Laois. 1-08 to 1-03 at half time for Kildare.

Jinxy

I'd take a narrow victory to win a semi-final every day of the week.
Does a team no good going into a final on the back of a handy win.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.

Kuwabatake Sanjuro

I'm not at it so don't know if it is going to free kicks or a replay.

Kuwabatake Sanjuro


Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.


Dinny Breen

 Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.
#newbridgeornowhere

Kuwabatake Sanjuro

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.

A couple of the Kildare lads have been hurling with the minors too so there has been a crazy amount played in the last 5 or 6 weeks.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.

Yes and we hear the nonsense they have welfare in mind first with these new U20 and U17 competitions. Was little between Wicklow kildare at U16 level in the FR Manning cup either last year why are so many surprised with how well Wicklow are doing now at U17 level?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Kuwabatake Sanjuro

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 08, 2018, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.

Yes and we hear the nonsense they have welfare in mind first with these new U20 and U17 competitions. Was little between Wicklow kildare at U16 level in the FR Manning cup either last year why are so many surprised with how well Wicklow are doing now at U17 level?

I don't think many are surprised, their win against Dublin was a headline grabber though.