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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #17715 on: November 25, 2021, 11:32:33 AM »
Don't engage. Kill the thread. Zzz

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« Reply #17716 on: November 25, 2021, 11:35:13 AM »
Getting fed up to the back teeth on here and other social media outlets of this debate.

You can have an opinion about absolutely anything that is a basic right, but you know what they say about opinions.

This anti-fact shit started with Trump, just basically making stuff up for idiots to believe.

If you do not have a medical background, or are an expert on vaccines or pandemics, then shut the F**k up, posting and re-posting articles with no understanding of them, their origin or their authenticity is helping no one.

I chuckle at the personal trainers, not because they have lost out on revenue, along with the hospitality trade, no, its their knowledge they have generated during lockdown, by now some of them must be working for WHO based on the posts they throw up! I'd nearly bin them only its funny to see the rabbit hole they go down
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #17717 on: November 25, 2021, 02:50:58 PM »
Japan miracle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g

Ah yes, nurse John phd.

some of the comments from Japanese people are interesting
.. does he provide proof it is actually being used..I cannot watch anymore of him putting ticks on a page

The disclaimer on his YouTube account should tell you everything on whether he needs proof. John’s income from YouTube is fairly significant but in fairness he wouldn’t have an agenda unlike MSM.

This clowns entire argument ripped apart here - https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1463493914816655361

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« Reply #17718 on: November 25, 2021, 02:56:15 PM »
Plenty if medical experts have been policed and shut down.

Anyway, this is incredibly interesting
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/scientists-mystified-wary-as-africa-avoids-covid-19-disaster-1.5673339

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« Reply #17719 on: November 25, 2021, 03:00:28 PM »
Define plenty? How many?

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« Reply #17720 on: November 25, 2021, 03:13:38 PM »
Japan miracle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g

Ah yes, nurse John phd.

some of the comments from Japanese people are interesting
.. does he provide proof it is actually being used..I cannot watch anymore of him putting ticks on a page

The disclaimer on his YouTube account should tell you everything on whether he needs proof. John’s income from YouTube is fairly significant but in fairness he wouldn’t have an agenda unlike MSM.

This clowns entire argument ripped apart here - https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1463493914816655361

The fact he presents himself as Dr John on social media, despite it being effectively earning a doctorate for teaching, tells you all you need to know about his honesty. He’s deliberately misleading people viewing those videos that he’s a medical doctor just to get more subscribers.

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« Reply #17721 on: November 25, 2021, 05:20:21 PM »
Plenty if medical experts have been policed and shut down.

Anyway, this is incredibly interesting
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/scientists-mystified-wary-as-africa-avoids-covid-19-disaster-1.5673339
Looks like the big one is coming from South Africa.

It has obliterated Delta there in jig time.

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« Reply #17722 on: November 25, 2021, 05:54:00 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/new-coronavirus-variant-reason-concern-say-researchers/

A new coronavirus variant found in 22 cases in South Africa is a “reason for concern”, according to researchers.
Three cases of the variant - B.1.1.529 - have also been found in Botswana and there has been one case in Hong Kong, in a patient who had recently visited South Africa.


Scientists have flagged the variant’s unusually high levels of mutations, particularly in the spike protein, which the virus uses to infect cells.
Professor Tulio De Oliveira, director of the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform (KRISP), said the variant had a “very unusual constellation of mutations” and was a "reason for concern" in South Africa. 
Unlike other variants, including delta, which is now dominant globally, and beta, which was detected by Prof de Oliveira’s team in South Africa earlier this year, the new variant has not yet been officially classified as a variant of concern.
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Prof De Oliveira said the significance of the variant was still unknown, with scientists monitoring it to assess whether the mutations would have an impact on transmissibility or how dangerous it is. Viruses mutate all the time, and only some of the mutations change how the virus behaves.
Another member of the KRISP team, infectious diseases expert Dr Richard Lessels, added: "There is some concern that B.1.1.529 may have enhanced transmissibility and be able to get around parts of the immune system.”
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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #17723 on: November 25, 2021, 07:46:26 PM »
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« Reply #17724 on: November 25, 2021, 08:09:47 PM »
the gah board has the most experts on all subjects ffs

it's obvious  ::)

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« Reply #17725 on: November 25, 2021, 09:09:08 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/new-coronavirus-variant-reason-concern-say-researchers/

A new coronavirus variant found in 22 cases in South Africa is a “reason for concern”, according to researchers.
Three cases of the variant - B.1.1.529 - have also been found in Botswana and there has been one case in Hong Kong, in a patient who had recently visited South Africa.


Scientists have flagged the variant’s unusually high levels of mutations, particularly in the spike protein, which the virus uses to infect cells.
Professor Tulio De Oliveira, director of the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform (KRISP), said the variant had a “very unusual constellation of mutations” and was a "reason for concern" in South Africa. 
Unlike other variants, including delta, which is now dominant globally, and beta, which was detected by Prof de Oliveira’s team in South Africa earlier this year, the new variant has not yet been officially classified as a variant of concern.
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Prof De Oliveira said the significance of the variant was still unknown, with scientists monitoring it to assess whether the mutations would have an impact on transmissibility or how dangerous it is. Viruses mutate all the time, and only some of the mutations change how the virus behaves.
Another member of the KRISP team, infectious diseases expert Dr Richard Lessels, added: "There is some concern that B.1.1.529 may have enhanced transmissibility and be able to get around parts of the immune system.”


Which won’t kill you unless some of you are around about the age of 82, obese or have underlying health conditions or a combo.  Take your vaccine if your in that cohort. Project fear has moved from Brexit to covid.

Social distance, wash/sanitise your hands and you’ll be grand.

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Re: China Coronavirus
« Reply #17726 on: November 25, 2021, 09:20:30 PM »
Brexit  ;D

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« Reply #17727 on: November 25, 2021, 09:38:56 PM »
"HSE's Paul Reid: "If you take the adult population, only about 7% haven't got two vaccines. That's a
highly disproportionate number of people we have in hospital -
for 7% of the adult population to represent close to 55% of our ICU capacity"
"

If those figures are true then it tells you that vaccines are working but I think there's a general understanding that top ups and annual vaccines will become a regular occurrence..
LOL so 45% of the people in ICU are vaccinated and you tell us vaccines are working etc.

edit: Sorry, read the posts after and clear you were trying to be sarcastic. Probably not a good idea to appear a stupid c**t in a thread that has more than its fair share of them.


I'll leave this here for the benefit of the dumb f**ks that think the vaccines aren't working:

If the vaccines weren't working, then ~93% of the people in ICU would be vaccinated.

To get the numbers as they are means a fully vaccinated person is around 16 times less likely to end up in ICU as the unvaccinated/not-fully vaccinated.

« Last Edit: November 25, 2021, 09:41:19 PM by RadioGAAGAA »
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« Reply #17728 on: November 25, 2021, 10:34:03 PM »
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/new-coronavirus-variant-reason-concern-say-researchers/

A new coronavirus variant found in 22 cases in South Africa is a “reason for concern”, according to researchers.
Three cases of the variant - B.1.1.529 - have also been found in Botswana and there has been one case in Hong Kong, in a patient who had recently visited South Africa.


Scientists have flagged the variant’s unusually high levels of mutations, particularly in the spike protein, which the virus uses to infect cells.
Professor Tulio De Oliveira, director of the KwaZulu-Natal Research Innovation and Sequencing Platform (KRISP), said the variant had a “very unusual constellation of mutations” and was a "reason for concern" in South Africa. 
Unlike other variants, including delta, which is now dominant globally, and beta, which was detected by Prof de Oliveira’s team in South Africa earlier this year, the new variant has not yet been officially classified as a variant of concern.
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Prof De Oliveira said the significance of the variant was still unknown, with scientists monitoring it to assess whether the mutations would have an impact on transmissibility or how dangerous it is. Viruses mutate all the time, and only some of the mutations change how the virus behaves.
Another member of the KRISP team, infectious diseases expert Dr Richard Lessels, added: "There is some concern that B.1.1.529 may have enhanced transmissibility and be able to get around parts of the immune system.”


Which won’t kill you unless some of you are around about the age of 82, obese or have underlying health conditions or a combo.  Take your vaccine if your in that cohort. Project fear has moved from Brexit to covid.

Social distance, wash/sanitise your hands and you’ll be grand.
If you don't fear what this variant could do to societies all over the world you are asleep at the wheel.

This pandemic has a long, long time in which to play out yet.

And if this variant is as bad as it looks - and who is to say there wont be further, even worse ones, the consequences for our world are unknowable, but they are likely to be cataclysmic.

We all have a normality bias to one degree or other, it might be time to start removing it. The existential nature of this for societies just ramps ever upwards.


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« Reply #17729 on: November 25, 2021, 11:32:33 PM »
"HSE's Paul Reid: "If you take the adult population, only about 7% haven't got two vaccines. That's a
highly disproportionate number of people we have in hospital -
for 7% of the adult population to represent close to 55% of our ICU capacity"
"

If those figures are true then it tells you that vaccines are working but I think there's a general understanding that top ups and annual vaccines will become a regular occurrence..
LOL so 45% of the people in ICU are vaccinated and you tell us vaccines are working etc.

edit: Sorry, read the posts after and clear you were trying to be sarcastic. Probably not a good idea to appear a stupid c**t in a thread that has more than its fair share of them.


I'll leave this here for the benefit of the dumb f**ks that think the vaccines aren't working:

If the vaccines weren't working, then ~93% of the people in ICU would be vaccinated.

To get the numbers as they are means a fully vaccinated person is around 16 times less likely to end up in ICU as the unvaccinated/not-fully vaccinated.
Yes there a lot of silly silly people about. I had my booster on Monday past and the hospital was packed with people queueing which was heartening to see. Interestingly there was a father and daughter behind me and it was her getting the jab and by the sounds of their conversation he hasn't had any jabs (man in his 50s) as she was chastising him about it. No doubt the same boy would be happy to take a hospital bed if he gets Covid.