Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019

Started by Rossfan, May 28, 2019, 09:26:52 AM

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weareros

Quote from: Manning18 on June 12, 2019, 12:49:38 PM
"The obvious next step is to challenge for an All-Ireland. But does anybody really and truly see them in those terms? If they do, they're keeping it to themselves! You have the Dubs out on their own, maybe Kerry and Mayo next, possibly Donegal after last weekend and at a push Tyrone if they can regather themselves. I don't hear too many people shouting about Galway."

This part of the article was interesting, and it's very true. I listened to loads of championship previews with Galway not mentioned. They were a silly 10 min spell from making a league final this year with half a panel missing. Of the team's mentioned above, Galway have beaten Mayo in 5 straight, beat Kerry by 4 last year and Donegal by 15 in their last meeting 2 years ago. Donegal just made it out of D2, albiet looking excellent at the weekend. Even the scores of Roscommon fans saying it's 50/50 is interesting in terms of how they rate Galway compared to Mayo. Didn't see anyone calling the Mayo Ros game 50/50 prior.

Odds for the final.
Galway are 2/5
Roscommon are 5/2

Jaysus you wouldn't hear so much beal bochting from a rock in Connemara.

Manning18

Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2019, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 12, 2019, 12:49:38 PM
"The obvious next step is to challenge for an All-Ireland. But does anybody really and truly see them in those terms? If they do, they're keeping it to themselves! You have the Dubs out on their own, maybe Kerry and Mayo next, possibly Donegal after last weekend and at a push Tyrone if they can regather themselves. I don't hear too many people shouting about Galway."

This part of the article was interesting, and it's very true. I listened to loads of championship previews with Galway not mentioned. They were a silly 10 min spell from making a league final this year with half a panel missing. Of the team's mentioned above, Galway have beaten Mayo in 5 straight, beat Kerry by 4 last year and Donegal by 15 in their last meeting 2 years ago. Donegal just made it out of D2, albiet looking excellent at the weekend. Even the scores of Roscommon fans saying it's 50/50 is interesting in terms of how they rate Galway compared to Mayo. Didn't see anyone calling the Mayo Ros game 50/50 prior.

Odds for the final.
Galway are 2/5
Roscommon are 5/2

Jaysus you wouldn't hear so much beal bochting from a rock in Connemara.

Yet you're telling us the odds are wrong and that it's 50/50? I wonder what the reaction would be if someone came along saying Galway should be 1/5 (as mayo were) and not 2/5

weareros

Quote from: Manning18 on June 12, 2019, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2019, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 12, 2019, 12:49:38 PM
"The obvious next step is to challenge for an All-Ireland. But does anybody really and truly see them in those terms? If they do, they're keeping it to themselves! You have the Dubs out on their own, maybe Kerry and Mayo next, possibly Donegal after last weekend and at a push Tyrone if they can regather themselves. I don't hear too many people shouting about Galway."

This part of the article was interesting, and it's very true. I listened to loads of championship previews with Galway not mentioned. They were a silly 10 min spell from making a league final this year with half a panel missing. Of the team's mentioned above, Galway have beaten Mayo in 5 straight, beat Kerry by 4 last year and Donegal by 15 in their last meeting 2 years ago. Donegal just made it out of D2, albiet looking excellent at the weekend. Even the scores of Roscommon fans saying it's 50/50 is interesting in terms of how they rate Galway compared to Mayo. Didn't see anyone calling the Mayo Ros game 50/50 prior.

Odds for the final.
Galway are 2/5
Roscommon are 5/2

Jaysus you wouldn't hear so much beal bochting from a rock in Connemara.

Yet you're telling us the odds are wrong and that it's 50/50? I wonder what the reaction would be if someone came along saying Galway should be 1/5 (as mayo were) and not 2/5

You are mistaking what the experts and bookies think to the eternal optimism of Roscommon supporters. The bookies tend to be right most (over 90%) of the time; every now and again we Rossies upset the apple cart in Connacht.

galwayman

Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2019, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 12, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2019, 11:10:41 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 12, 2019, 10:06:36 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-galway-are-too-stuck-in-systems-too-rigid-and-too-defensive-1.3922417

More ammo for Kevin to pin up on the wall on Sunday.

Is he not predicting Galway to win handily, hardly even bothers mentioning who they are playing? What  is Kevin going to say: lookit, Daragh O'Se said we are going to win but not by enough. Let's go out and prove him wrong.
Umm where is he predicting Galway to win handily?
You might want to read it again.
The only reference to it is to say that they are more than capable of winning it.
That's a world away from saying a team will win handily.
Lord

Same thing. He's basically saying Galway don't win with style. Dismisses the victory over Kerry because it was a dog of a game. I hope Kevin does nail it to the wall and tell his team to rid themselves of the defensive mindset. Would love if Galway gave our forwards the space Mayo gave us. But we all know Walsh will pay feck all heed to this article.
How is it the same thing? Not to be repeating myself - but read it again. In no way is saying that a team is capable of winning a game the same thing as saying that they will win handily. Ye are doing some job of trying to play up to a perception that ye are given no chance in this game when the reality is very different.
Galway are 2/5 favourites in the bookies - again very different to one team being given no chance.
If that were the case we would be far shorter odds. Mayo are 1/8 away to Down for example.

weareros

Quote from: galwayman on June 12, 2019, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2019, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 12, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 12, 2019, 11:10:41 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 12, 2019, 10:06:36 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-galway-are-too-stuck-in-systems-too-rigid-and-too-defensive-1.3922417

More ammo for Kevin to pin up on the wall on Sunday.

Is he not predicting Galway to win handily, hardly even bothers mentioning who they are playing? What  is Kevin going to say: lookit, Daragh O'Se said we are going to win but not by enough. Let's go out and prove him wrong.
Umm where is he predicting Galway to win handily?
You might want to read it again.
The only reference to it is to say that they are more than capable of winning it.
That's a world away from saying a team will win handily.
Lord

Same thing. He's basically saying Galway don't win with style. Dismisses the victory over Kerry because it was a dog of a game. I hope Kevin does nail it to the wall and tell his team to rid themselves of the defensive mindset. Would love if Galway gave our forwards the space Mayo gave us. But we all know Walsh will pay feck all heed to this article.
How is it the same thing? Not to be repeating myself - but read it again. In no way is saying that a team is capable of winning a game the same thing as saying that they will win handily. Ye are doing some job of trying to play up to a perception that ye are given no chance in this game when the reality is very different.
Galway are 2/5 favourites in the bookies - again very different to one team being given no chance.
If that were the case we would be far shorter odds. Mayo are 1/8 away to Down for example.

Once is surely enough to read a Darragh O'Se article. He is talking ye up as a team that could potentially stop Dublin's 5 in a Row drive if ye adopted a more attacking style. That's high praise from a Kerryman. Mayo are hot favourites against Down because it is a top Div 1 team versus Div 3. Galway are still strong favourites against Ros but it is still a top Div 1 team versus a demoted Div 1 team. Not as big a gap there, plus it is 2-1 to Galway in the last 3 Connacht finals.

GalwayBayBoy

Looks like quite a lot of rain forecast for Sunday. A dirty day in store unfortunately.

Rossfan

Is there ever good weather in bloody Salthill >:(
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Rossfan on June 13, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
Is there ever good weather in bloody Salthill >:(

Been good all week. But won't be on Sunday.

Blowitupref

Roscommon team for Sunday. Three changes. Devaney,E Smith and D Murtagh in for Darcy,Glennon and the injured Harney.

Darren O'Malley (Michael Glavey)
David Murray  (Padraig Pearses)
Sean Mullooly (Strokestown)
Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Niall Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Conor Hussey (Michael Glaveys)
Ronan Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Tadgh O'Rourke (Tulsk)
Shane Killoran (Elphin)
Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
Cathal Cregg (Western Gaels)
Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)
Diarmuid Murtagh (St Faithleachs)
Conor Cox (Listowel Emmets)
Enda Smith (Boyle)
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

GalwayBayBoy

Galway Senior Football team to face Roscommon in the Connacht S.F.C Final on Sunday

Bernard Power (Corofin)
Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitir Mór)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Gareth Bradshaw (Moycullen)
John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Michéal Breathnach)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin Clonberne)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Antaine Ó Laoí (An Spidéal)
Ian Burke (Corofin)
Danny Cummins (Claregalway)

GaillimhIarthair

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 13, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
Galway Senior Football team to face Roscommon in the Connacht S.F.C Final on Sunday

Bernard Power (Corofin)
Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitir Mór)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Gareth Bradshaw (Moycullen)
John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Michéal Breathnach)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin Clonberne)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Antaine Ó Laoí (An Spidéal)
Ian Burke (Corofin)
Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
Hmmm, I would be hoping to see some personnel changes in both the HB and FF lines by the time it throws in on Sunday afternoon!

Blowitupref

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 13, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
Galway Senior Football team to face Roscommon in the Connacht S.F.C Final on Sunday

Bernard Power (Corofin)
Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitir Mór)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Gareth Bradshaw (Moycullen)
John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Michéal Breathnach)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin Clonberne)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Antaine Ó Laoí (An Spidéal)
Ian Burke (Corofin)
Danny Cummins (Claregalway)

Just the one change with O'Donnell coming in for Molloy?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 13, 2019, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 13, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
Galway Senior Football team to face Roscommon in the Connacht S.F.C Final on Sunday

Bernard Power (Corofin)
Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitir Mór)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Gareth Bradshaw (Moycullen)
John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Michéal Breathnach)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin Clonberne)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Antaine Ó Laoí (An Spidéal)
Ian Burke (Corofin)
Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
Hmmm, I would be hoping to see some personnel changes in both the HB and FF lines by the time it throws in on Sunday afternoon!

Not much physical presence in that FF line on what is forecast to be a dirty rainy day.

galwayman

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 13, 2019, 01:51:06 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 13, 2019, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 13, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
Galway Senior Football team to face Roscommon in the Connacht S.F.C Final on Sunday

Bernard Power (Corofin)
Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna, Leitir Mór)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Gareth Bradshaw (Moycullen)
John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Thomas Flynn (Athenry)
Fiontán Ó Curraoin (Michéal Breathnach)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin Clonberne)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Antaine Ó Laoí (An Spidéal)
Ian Burke (Corofin)
Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
Hmmm, I would be hoping to see some personnel changes in both the HB and FF lines by the time it throws in on Sunday afternoon!

Not much physical presence in that FF line on what is forecast to be a dirty rainy day.
O Laoi and Cummins have both been terrible so far in the two games.
If there is no changes before throw in they are extremely lucky to keep their places.

An Fhairche Abu

Ó Laoí wasn't that bad against London I thought, Cummins was atrocious alright and hasn't carried over his good league form into championship at all.

That HB line isn't going to strike fear into the Rossies, not sure what to make of expecting a FF line that couldn't do it against Sligo to make any better inroads into a superior team in Roscommon.