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Title: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on February 24, 2015, 06:49:18 PM
Mountrath CS are playing Gorey CS in the Senior Hurlin B 'Rest of Leinster' final on Friday @ 12.30pm in Dr Cullen Park in Carlow.
Best of luck to all involved.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Unlaoised on February 25, 2015, 11:32:15 AM
Where is this game on?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on February 25, 2015, 01:24:57 PM
Read the post! :)
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 02, 2015, 09:30:26 AM
Mountrath CS won the 'Rest of Leinster' B hurling on Friday. They now play the Dublin champions.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 09, 2015, 01:59:19 PM
The Leinster SH B final is on in Newbridge at 1pm tomorrow. Best of luck to Mountrath CS. 
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 10, 2015, 05:36:26 PM
Congratulations to Mountrath CS who won the SH B final today by 3 points. They were made sweat for it though as they were 10 points up with 15 minutes to go. Another great result for Laois hurling and best of luck to them in the All Ireland series!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: TheGreatGame on March 12, 2015, 06:51:01 PM
Well done to Mountrath, that's 3 Leinster Colleges B titles in a row for Laois schools which I think does reflect the huge improvement in underage set ups in the county.  We don't have any one school that draws from enough clubs or has enough students to compete in A colleges in my opinion, but we now have three schools amongst the best at B level.  Hopefully Mountrath go all the way now.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 13, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
It's a great statistic in fairness. That's 3 different panels of players of 25 or so that have won a Leinster. I know the schools amalgamation hasn't really provided any success at A level but you would have 3 or 4 players from each school who could probably hurl at the 'A' standard.
Hopefully we see a good year from the minor hurlers to continue this progress and a decent showing from our U21's over the next couple of years.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Tobias on March 23, 2015, 09:12:32 AM
Congrats to Mountrath CS on making it to the all Ireland final. Best of luck to all involved. Is see Aaron Dunphy is only a sub..I presume he is injured??
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: on the hop on March 23, 2015, 09:17:08 AM
injured for a lot of the matches
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 23, 2015, 10:09:27 AM
Fantastic result and a huge winning margin. All Ireland final Easter weekend in Thurles. They're up against the Cross and Passion college from Antrim who beat Tulla in the other semi final. Great occasion for these lads and one they will relish. It's also great that they will be bringing that winning mentality to the county set up.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on April 04, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Best of luck to Mountrath CS today. The school is represented by a great spread of clubs so it really is a county effort. Hopefully they can repeat the exploits of Fergals a coyple of years back and bring an AI title to Laois.
Great achievement all the same.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: SCFC on April 04, 2015, 03:01:01 PM
Good to Mountrath today.
Game is live on TG4 for anyone not in Semple by now.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Thewildcat on April 04, 2015, 07:36:25 PM
they were in hard luck i think losing last years final stood to the Antrimmen today some great hurling in todays game.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on April 24, 2015, 04:32:54 PM
Mountrath CS won the leinster Juv H 'A' quarter final against St Peters of Wexford by 3-16 to 2-08 today. That's a serious result against one of the traditional schools.

Very encouraging when you see this on the back of the seniors success. Really doing well at the moment.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: TheGreatGame on April 24, 2015, 06:09:35 PM
That's a very impressive result!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on May 06, 2015, 09:48:35 AM
Mountrath playing St Kierans today at 12.30pm in Johnstown in semi final of Juv H 'A'.

Best of luck to them against the kingpins of Leinster Schools hurling.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on May 06, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
Final Score
Mountrath CS 2-11 3-15 St Kierans.

No report on the game but a seven point loss to that opposition is no shame. Well done Mountrath, great work being done over there.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 14, 2016, 10:47:44 AM
Laois schools are playing Dublin North on Saturday at 3pm at the DCU sportsground for any O'Moores living in Dublin who want to go and support them.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on January 15, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
Any result? Team?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 15, 2016, 10:40:32 AM
They're playing tomorrow!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on January 15, 2016, 02:33:56 PM
Ha! Somehow I thought it was on Thursday!

Who would be involved with this team?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: grover on January 15, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 15, 2016, 02:33:56 PM
Ha! Somehow I thought it was on Thursday!

Who would be involved with this team?
Any Minors not in Mountrath School, as they are in the same competition.
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Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 15, 2016, 04:00:42 PM
Mountrath CS play Castleomer next Saturday 23rd in the preliminary round of the SH 'A'.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 18, 2016, 03:44:58 PM
Laois Schools 2-10 2-15 Dublin North
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on January 18, 2016, 04:12:51 PM
What constitutes Laois Schools?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: merman on January 18, 2016, 05:18:02 PM
All the minors minus anyone who is in school in Mountrath CS.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: grover on January 18, 2016, 05:33:33 PM
Laois Schools  v Dublin North.
P McDonald, J Geaney. P Critchley, N Gleeson, A Bergin, L Cleere, J Walshe, P OToole, E Killeen,P McCain, L Davis,C McEvoy.
A few others I don't know,basically drawn from St Fergals,Heywood and Portlaoise CBS.t
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: merman on January 23, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
Great win for Mountrath CS over Castlecomer today.
I wasn't at the match but I think the final score was 4.15-2.20.

They're competing in the Leinster A competition and have a serious team! Some brilliant hurlers from this year's Borris/Kilcotton minor team and a couple of prodigious U16s from Castletown/Camross.

Great work being done over there.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 23, 2016, 07:02:34 PM
They had a fairly good junior team last year a few of which may have moved on to the senior team. Great stuff combined with the groundwork being done in the setanta program. How things have changed considering St Fergals were the kingpins of schools hurling in Laois for so long.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on January 24, 2016, 02:26:06 PM
Anyone got the team and clubs involved?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: grover on January 28, 2016, 07:50:19 PM
Leinster Schools "A" Hurling Q/Final.
Mountrath CS v Colaiste Eoin.  Ballykelly Gaa,Monasterevin. Saturday 2pm.
Very best of luck to Mountrath this weekend.In with a great chance against the Dublin school.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Tobias on January 30, 2016, 05:10:38 PM
Super result for Mountrath today with a comprehensive win over colaiste Eoin. Anyone have the team and scorers? It would be great to get to the final.
I would wonder what happened to laois schools, they should have had a strong team. Was there much of an effort put in with them?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: TheGreatGame on January 30, 2016, 08:30:37 PM
Two great results for Mountrath, well done to them!

Regarding the Laois schools, fielding without the Mountrath contingent would have weakened them a lot.  I also see from the team selection that Robbie Phelan wasn't hurling.  Mark Kav is overage for schools hurling too I believe, so it wasn't to be this year.

On a side note, Dublin have a lot of talent around this age group after winning the u16 A-I two years ago.  They could well be the team to watch out for at minor level.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: grover on January 31, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
Kilkenny CBS next up for Mountrath CS in SemiFinal on February 13th.
Laois Minors played Clare also yesterday losing on a scoreline of 1-21 to 3-14.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 31, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
Kilkenny CBS probably the lesser of the 2 kilkenny schools but still a huge challenge.

Best of luck to the them, it will be a great achievement to reach the final.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 01, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on January 31, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
Kilkenny CBS probably the lesser of the 2 kilkenny schools but still a huge challenge.

Best of luck to the them, it will be a great achievement to reach the final.

Kilkenny CBS have serious pedigree. 2nd most successful team in colleges hurling after St. Kierans. Leinster champions in 2013 and 2014. A win would be monumental.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on February 13, 2016, 09:48:27 PM
Kilkenny CBS 2-16 Mountrath CS 0-14
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on February 15, 2016, 04:02:41 PM
The Combined Laois Juvenile team had a huge win over Kilkenny CBS last Friday... 7-10 to 3-5 with Kilkenny getting two goals in injury time.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on February 15, 2016, 04:06:22 PM
Would that be with or without the Mountrath CS lads?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on February 15, 2016, 04:11:49 PM
Without. Mountrath are in A
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 15, 2016, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Zooming around on February 15, 2016, 04:02:41 PM
The Combined Laois Juvenile team had a huge win over Kilkenny CBS last Friday... 7-10 to 3-5 with Kilkenny getting two goals in injury time.

We need to call a few of them up to the Laois Seniors!!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on February 16, 2016, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: Zooming around on February 15, 2016, 04:02:41 PM
The Combined Laois Juvenile team had a huge win over Kilkenny CBS last Friday... 7-10 to 3-5 with Kilkenny getting two goals in injury time.

Do you have the team (and schools?)
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on February 16, 2016, 05:19:53 PM
I got this off the Leinster Express lad who was at the match (big beardy lad)

1. David Sheeran (Heywood)
2. Eamon Fitzpatrick (Heywood)
3. Niall Coss (Fergals)
4. Kielan Kelly (Fergals)
5. Adam Broady (Heywood)
6. Danny Brennan (Heywood)
7. Fionn Holland (Heywood)
8. Aaron Grady (Heywood)
9. Fionn Holland (Heywood)
10 Aaron Brennan (Heywood)
11 Cian Shaughnessy (Heywood)
12 Lee Maher (Heywood)
13 Kevin Mulhall (Fergals)
14 Cathal Shaughnessy (Heywood)
15 Conor Goode (CBS)

Laois also brought on all the subs (about 8) but I haven't the names.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 17, 2016, 12:22:17 PM
So essentially Heywood beat Kilkenny CBS!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Helix on February 17, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
To be fair Heywood have a lot of the Abbeyleix and Harps juveniles who are an exceptional bunch at their age in Laois as well as a few Clonad/Park Rateniska lads. Impressive result without Mountrath lads who would have a few from the likes of Camross borris kk and surrounding areas.
Great result all the same!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 18, 2016, 11:26:24 AM
I agree, it is a great testament to the work going at underage in the Heywood area. It is a fairly significant power shift though as Fergals who draw from Rathdowney Errill / Clough Ballacolla and to a lesser extent these days from Borris / Kilcotton would traditionally have been the dominant hurling school in Laois. Also it would be great to see more Portlaoise involvement.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Helix on February 18, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
The CBS in general needs a bigger emphasis in the hurling. Town hurling was very strong when they were successful!

Good work being done in Clonad/ratheniska also both schools benefiting. Reckon this Laois is the pick of the setanta groups over the years. Good bunch.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 22, 2016, 05:04:57 PM
I see the minor hurlers were beaten by Offaly yesterday. Strange score something like 7-08 to 5-08. Anyone any details? Given the trimmings we have handed out to Offaly from U-14 to U-16 for many years now and the fact that we should have a full panel with the Mountrath CC lads coming back, sounds a little surprising.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on February 22, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
Were they not playing Tipp yesterday?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on March 03, 2016, 01:34:40 PM
Laois minors beat Waterford by a few points last Sunday.

A selection of the U14s hammered a Mid Tipp team last night.

The Juvenile Combined Colleges team are playing Good Counsel tomorrow.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 03, 2016, 04:46:33 PM
Mountrath CS playing St Kierans in the same league tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Tobias on March 03, 2016, 05:47:43 PM
Minor challenge games can be very deceiving with teams putting out second strings. The likes of Tipp would probably be looking at up to 40 players up to this stage. I know laois had huge numbers training but they prob have the panel trimmed at this stage. We have had what we consider good minor teams over the past few years but at the same time we have struggled when pitied against the cats. This year might be our best chance of taking them down.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on March 04, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Quote from: Tobias on March 03, 2016, 05:47:43 PM
Minor challenge games can be very deceiving with teams putting out second strings. The likes of Tipp would probably be looking at up to 40 players up to this stage. I know laois had huge numbers training but they prob have the panel trimmed at this stage. We have had what we consider good minor teams over the past few years but at the same time we have struggled when pitied against the cats. This year might be our best chance of taking them down.

Will learn more about this team over coming weeks as they compete in the Leinster minor hurling league which doesn't include KK or WX.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 07, 2016, 09:45:53 AM
Mountrath CS and Laois Schools both well beaten in the league last Friday.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 22, 2016, 12:05:20 PM
Laois schools are in action this week.

Mountrath CS v St Fergals

Heywood play Killina Pres
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 01:55:34 PM
Given the size of Portlaoise,should the likes of the CBS be performing better?,in comparison to the Convent next door which seems to be winning titles in Basketball,Soccer and Football.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 22, 2016, 02:28:05 PM
I don't think they've even been that competitive since the year the likes of Zac was playing. They should be able to put out decent hurling and football teams!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 05:27:57 PM
Brendan Bugler went for a job in the CBS when he was commuting from Feakle to Callan CBS,None of those interviewing him realized what his achievements outside of teaching were he was passed over for the position and he's now in Flannans.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 07:46:35 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 05:27:57 PM
Brendan Bugler went for a job in the CBS when he was commuting from Feakle to Callan CBS,None of those interviewing him realized what his achievements outside of teaching were he was passed over for the position and he's now in Flannans.

While he'd have been great to have, are there not a couple of fairly high profile former intercounty hurlers in there already?
It doesn't take a huge number of people of get a sport going in a school. Look at what Christy Coughlan did in Mountrath.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 08:05:30 PM
Agreed Keyser, all it takes is one man (or woman) to drive it on,Bro.Dennis in Birr being a prime example of what a visionary can do for a school and county.

When you look at the pick the CBS have,they are punching way below their level in both codes.

A coulple of strong schools are vital to the underage scene.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 07:46:35 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 05:27:57 PM
Brendan Bugler went for a job in the CBS when he was commuting from Feakle to Callan CBS,None of those interviewing him realized what his achievements outside of teaching were he was passed over for the position and he's now in Flannans.

While he'd have been great to have, are there not a couple of fairly high profile former intercounty hurlers in there already?
It doesn't take a huge number of people of get a sport going in a school. Look at what Christy Coughlan did in Mountrath.
You'd have to wonder how much time an intercounty hurler from Clare would have had to give to coaching young lads from Portlaoise CBS as well. I'd almost commend them for not hiring or recognizing him simply because he was an intercounty hurler.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 08:51:20 PM
Yeah god forbid they might  recognize an All Ireland winning hurler all right there Don.

Why would chaps need any bit of insight from a winner as to what standards they have to achieve when we are doing so well on our own.

The Birr lads didn't have the same insular approach when Bro.Dennis came up from Cork.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 09:16:52 PM
It's not about an insular approach, it's about appointing a teacher based on his ability to teach not because he's a hurler who won an auld all Ireland. As pointed out there's plenty in there who can do that as it is, typical Laois, always dazzled by the shiny trinkets.

Pat Aherne didn't have too many baubles and did a great job for a long number of years because he had a passion for it. Same with Mick Scully.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
That approach must be working with the CBS now at the minute Don.I see even in the Leinster schools football,the CBS is in Juvenile division D.

Current Division D Cup holders that well known schools football powerhouse .....St.Kierans  Kilkenny

Calling an all ireland medal a shiny trinket says it all
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
That approach must be working with the CBS now at the minute Don.I see even in the Leinster schools football,the CBS is in Juvenile division D.

Current Division D Cup holders that well known schools football powerhouse .....St.Kierans  Kilkenny

Calling an all ireland medal a shiny trinket says it all
You think Bugler was going to boost football in the CBS?!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
That approach must be working with the CBS now at the minute Don.I see even in the Leinster schools football,the CBS is in Juvenile division D.

Current Division D Cup holders that well known schools football powerhouse .....St.Kierans  Kilkenny

Calling an all ireland medal a shiny trinket says it all
You think Bugler was going to boost football in the CBS?!
Ah now it's clear enough what Clonadmad meant there Don, in fairness!


Quote from: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 09:16:52 PM
It's not about an insular approach, it's about appointing a teacher based on his ability to teach not because he's a hurler who won an auld all Ireland. As pointed out there's plenty in there who can do that as it is, typical Laois, always dazzled by the shiny trinkets.

Pat Aherne didn't have too many baubles and did a great job for a long number of years because he had a passion for it. Same with Mick Scully.

But why isn't it happening. When you look at Portlaoise underage from U12 to U21. Where are all these lads in school?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 10:39:59 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 22, 2016, 10:25:35 PM
That approach must be working with the CBS now at the minute Don.I see even in the Leinster schools football,the CBS is in Juvenile division D.

Current Division D Cup holders that well known schools football powerhouse .....St.Kierans  Kilkenny

Calling an all ireland medal a shiny trinket says it all
You think Bugler was going to boost football in the CBS?!
Ah now it's clear enough what Clonadmad meant there Don, in fairness!


Quote from: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 09:16:52 PM
It's not about an insular approach, it's about appointing a teacher based on his ability to teach not because he's a hurler who won an auld all Ireland. As pointed out there's plenty in there who can do that as it is, typical Laois, always dazzled by the shiny trinkets.

Pat Aherne didn't have too many baubles and did a great job for a long number of years because he had a passion for it. Same with Mick Scully.

But why isn't it happening. When you look at Portlaoise underage from U12 to U21. Where are all these lads in school?

Thats a good question to ask Keyser, but its not even remotely related to what clonadmad was referring to when he mentioned Bugler. The Bugler thing is incidental, its not the reason Portlaoise are where they are. Your guess is as good as mine on that.

But I don't believe a board should hire a teacher because he won an All Ireland medal. Its an insult to the real reason our children go to a school.

Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 11:30:37 PM
Schools are for education. Sport can play a massive part in that.
If the chap was a good teacher and had references to prove it, I'd be inclined to give him a job. Anyone who has had to make a decision on their child's place of secondary education recently will testify that schools are putting on big shows for us parents and someone like him would fit the bill perfectly.
But i accept that his All Ireland medal alone shouldn't secure a job.

It is amazing how poor the CBS are in hurling. Mountrath and Heywood totally outperform them (from what I see- could be wrong).
Progressive counties (like Kilkenny) bend over backwards offering practical support to the promotion of hurling in schools. It is vital for the success of intercounty underage teams.
Laois needs strong teams at every grade in Mountrath, Heywood and CBS.
Having one of the three going well at given time will never be enough to feed an u16/minor team.

I'd also question the type of support we offer schools. I'd really question the return on sending GDAs into schools to do TY coaching courses and referees courses and that type of thing.
Will this help improve the quality of hurler emerging from our secondary schools? In my opinion, no.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 09:03:40 AM
Don the story relating to Bugler was only a very small example of the lack of interest in GAA in that particular school,but you turned it in the main event,well done on missing the wood from the trees.

Bottom line there's seems to a massive underperformance in the 2nd level schools in Portlaoise Parish given the numbers available to them and this needs to be addressed.

As regards the comment about Bugler and Football,I'm surprised Don that you weren't aware that he has 2 County Senior Football medals.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 23, 2016, 09:28:53 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 09:03:40 AM
Don the story relating to Bugler was only a very small example of the lack of interest in GAA in that particular school,but you turned it in the main event,well done on missing the wood from the trees.

Bottom line there's seems to a massive underperformance in the 2nd level schools in Portlaoise Parish given the numbers available to them and this needs to be addressed.

As regards the comment about Bugler and Football,I'm surprised Don that you weren't aware that he has 2 County Senior Football medals.
So now we're looking for teachers who have won county senior medals in Clare?

You got upset because the board interviewing a teacher didn't know he had a hobby. Thats not what they should be looking for. Sure there's problems on the hurling and football fields, but what about the other sports, should they go interviewing for basketball winners as well? I took you up on this point, and only this point.

I would agree fully there is a massive issue in Portlaoise CBS, and you did mention SCR in that, well the obvious reason SCR are doing what they're doing is simple, they have a passionate Portlaoise and Laois man with great drive and interest running the show in there. He energises the players, and his fellow staff. They're very very lucky to have him. I'd be very doubtful Bugler could or would give the same or anything close to the same, to the CBS.

If the CBS has an issue at games level, then should we ask is there anyone in there running the show? And if not, should there be?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 09:40:20 AM
Yes and there's the obvious solution,Don

Hire in someone similar to PC who's passionate,knowledgeable and has the skills to back it up,maybe Bugler wasn't the man but he had at least 2/3 of the 3.

It wouldnt do the powers that be any harm to tip down to Kilkenny and chat to the likes of Adrian Finan (u21 All Ireland Winning manager) and principal of St.Kierans to see what best practice looks like.





Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Good debate lads but Don what does SCR refer to?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 23, 2016, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Good debate lads but Don what does SCR refer to?
Scoil Chriost Rí, Pat Critchley's domain. Competing at high levels in gaelic, basketball and even soccer.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on November 23, 2016, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 09:40:20 AM

It wouldnt do the powers that be any harm to tip down to Kilkenny and chat to the likes of Adrian Finan (u21 All Ireland Winning manager) and principal of St.Kierans to see what best practice looks like.
Now you're talking. But given the slippage in there, do the powers give a flying f**k?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on November 23, 2016, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 09:52:51 AM
Good debate lads but Don what does SCR refer to?
Scoil Chriost Rí, Pat Critchley's domain. Competing at high levels in gaelic, basketball and even soccer.

Don't think we'll have too many from there hurling with the county in the coming years.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 11:41:42 AM
You dont say ;D ;D ;D ;D

still no harm in drawing the parallels

Last Laois winners of the Leinster Schools Senior A Hurling Competition was Patrician College Ballyfin back in 1963,no Laois school has made a final since then.

Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 11:44:51 AM
St Fergals seem to have regressed somewhat aswell since winning the vocational schools a few years ago. They were comfortably the best hurling school in Laois but have now been overtaken by Mountrath and Heywood to a lesser extent.
Who's the driving force behind the hurling in Mountrath?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: merman on November 23, 2016, 05:05:53 PM
St Fergal's catchment area has contracted greatly in recent years. They set a serious standard for a good number of years and so many Laois hurlers came through there.

Over the last couple of years, students from Durrow are tending to go to Heywood, those from Cullohill are going to Johnstown; Clough, Borris and Killadooley kids to Mountrath or Roscrea. There's always the few who go to St Kierans too.

Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 11:30:37 PM
I'd also question the type of support we offer schools. I'd really question the return on sending GDAs into schools to do TY coaching courses and referees courses and that type of thing.
Will this help improve the quality of hurler emerging from our secondary schools? In my opinion, no.


I agree. I think our GDAs should be hitting certain primary schools every week where possible; and coaching kids at the youngest age possible. Most primary schools have some parental/club engagement when it gets up to games in 4th-6th class but we need to start catching potential hurlers/footballers at the youngest age.



Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 23, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
St Fergal's have suffered greatly since Mountrath Community School opened.
They always lost a few to Roscrea (as did Mountrath Vocational School).

The thing about success in Secondary Schools is that is self fulfilling- if work is put in, the young lads buy into it and you will have relative success. That in itself attracts strong hurlers, and the whole thing becomes self fulfilling.

I don't agree that lads should be hired on the basis of medals won, but high profile appointments can help attract hurlers in, and get the whole thing kicked off.

I couldn't say exactly what is or isn't being done in the CBS, but I'd infer from their results that not enough is being done.
As I said already, it doesn't take large management teams to get schools going well. It takes 1 or 2 people to take it on and energise the whole set up. There are two men there surely capable of doing this.
Mick Scully in the CBS, Johhny Casey in Rathdowney, Critchely in SCR, Coughlan in Mountrath.

We need hurling men in Heywood, Mountrath, Mountmellick, Rathdowney and the CBS. There is only so much you can get done in development squads- school environments lend themselves to getting a team going. Easy access to the players and a ready made support base looking for any excuse to get excited and have a big day out.

As well as all of the above it is an effective way of keeping fellas engaged in school, particularly those who may struggle academically or who lack confidence in the school setting.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 07:13:52 PM
Quote from: merman on November 23, 2016, 05:05:53 PM
St Fergal's catchment area has contacted greatly in recent years. They set a serious standard for a good number of years and so many Laois hurlers came through there.

Over the last couple of years, students from Durrow are tending to go to Heywood, those from Cullohill are going to Johnstown; Clough, Borris and Killadooley kids to Mountrath or Roscrea. There's always the few who go to St Kierans too.

Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 22, 2016, 11:30:37 PM
I'd also question the type of support we offer schools. I'd really question the return on sending GDAs into schools to do TY coaching courses and referees courses and that type of thing.
Will this help improve the quality of hurler emerging from our secondary schools? In my opinion, no.


I agree. I think our GDAs should be hitting certain primary schools every week where possible; and coaching kids at the youngest age possible. Most primary schools have some parental/club engagement when it gets up to games in 4th-6th class but we need to start catching potential hurlers/footballers at the youngest age.

How about we aim for once a year for starters?.

I have a lad in 3rd class in school in Portlaoise Parish and he's never had a GDA in either Football or Hurling in to do any coaching with his class.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 09:04:20 PM
Good post there Keyser.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Behindthefence on November 23, 2016, 09:28:04 PM
Brilliant discussion.

From what I have heard regarding the CBS is that school management have very little interest in sport and that the teachers have struggled for cover and support from management. I heard one story about them being asked which teams had a chance of winning something and looking to pull out the teams that had no hope.

The other factor to consider is that sport is extra curricular and you are depending on teachers to prepare, train and take teams on a completely voluntary basis. With croke park hours, reduced pay and union issues sport can suffer. How management approach sport can also play a huge role.

Mountraths management would appear to support sport as they seem to enter teams in every sport possible. Christy Coughlan and Eddie Kirwan plus a few new teachers are doing great work for hurling over there.

The CBS have Mick Scully, Jimmy walsh and Brian Carroll (new offaly director of hurling) but I'm not sure if Brian is involved with hurling there.

It's a pity, on another point we have someone like Darren Maher in Portlaoise College but no hurlers in there to train.



Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 09:43:37 PM
Very informative post there behind the fence well done.

A lot of nails hit on the head.

Schools should be enhancing and driving on the work being done in the clubs,in a lot of schools the opposite is happening.


Here's the opposite to what we have

https://www.google.as/amp/s/www.sportsjoe.ie/amp/gaa/has-training-got-out-of-hand-at-secondary-school-level-in-gaa/71889?client=safari
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 09:56:14 PM
In fairness if the CBS can't get the hurling going with the likes of Jimmy Walshe and Brian Carroll working there then there's something not right in the school.  There must be no decent hurlers or certainly not enough of them.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 23, 2016, 11:04:32 PM
Bit unfair to blame the boys  RS when as behind the fence mentioned the school management don't have any interest in sport.

I'm sure given the numbers involved,you could put out a decent outfit in time.

The college  seems to be a complete black hole as regards the gaa also.

Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 24, 2016, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on November 23, 2016, 09:56:14 PM
In fairness if the CBS can't get the hurling going with the likes of Jimmy Walshe and Brian Carroll working there then there's something not right in the school.  There must be no decent hurlers or certainly not enough of them.

1n 2014 Portlaoise won the Laois U16 Hurling title.
In April 2015 Mountrath CS hurled in the All Ireland B Final, there were no Portlaoise players on it.
In September 2015 Portlaoise got to the Minor A Hurling Final & U16 A Hurling Final.

If there are no hurlers in Portlaoise College, I can't see how they can be anywhere except the CBS.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 24, 2016, 09:39:14 AM
http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/Leabhran%20Eolais%20-%20South%20Leinster.pdf (http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/Leabhran%20Eolais%20-%20South%20Leinster.pdf)

That is the masters fixture list for all grades in Leinster Schools comps. The CBS have teams entered in the B football competitions at senior and junior level however I don't see the CBS present in any of the hurling competitions and lets be honest all grades/standards are catered for with A to D levels. Maybe someone else has better eyesight and can see them in one of the comps.

I assume the only hurling any of these fella's will get is with Laois schools which isn't of much use.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 24, 2016, 11:23:22 AM
I had a quick look over the Leinster Schools Competitions and the participation of the Portlaoise schools across Juvenile,Junior and Senior Competitions and the  Divisions that they are in.

Portlaoise CBS

Sth Leinster Juvenile Football B
Sth Leinster Junior Football B
Senior Football B

North Leinster Juvenile Hurling C
North Leinster Junior Hurling C
North Leinster Senior Hurling C


Portlaoise College

Sth Leinster Juvenile Football E
Sth Leinster Junior Football F



I then did a comparison with Knockbeg

Sth Leinster Juvenile Football A
Sth Leinster Junior Football A
Sth Leinster Juvenile Hurling C
Sth Leinster Junior Hurling C
Senior Football A
Senior Hurling C

Teams across all age grades and codes

Mountrath and Heywood also have 5 teams entered across the 6 competitions
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Target Man on November 24, 2016, 12:56:37 PM
Portlaoise CBS compete in senior, junior and, juvenile hurling. They are in C grade and usually compete in North Leinster region. Due to play in nth Leinster senior final in next couple of weeks, reached nth Leinster juvenile final last year.



Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 24, 2016, 01:15:23 PM
Fair play Target man for pulling me up on that.

Ill amend my previous post
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on December 01, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
Anyone know much about the new minor manager, Christy Wlash from Bennettsbridge?

They are having minor trials in the next week or so to get a panel together and this panel will compete as the Combined Schools team in the Leinster Colleges in January. Seems like a decent idea to have them hurling competitively from the start of the year!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Ogie on December 01, 2016, 02:59:56 PM
A Kerry man originally very well thought of in Bennetsbridge & Kilkenny circles, managed the bridge for last number of years where they won Kilkenny junior a, all Ireland junior & went on the following year to win Kilkenny intermediate & all Ireland intermediate, good track record with club hurling, but minor & county minor very tricky position,
Best of luck to him, hopefully a success
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on December 06, 2016, 10:57:15 AM
Portlaoise CBS playing Boyne CS in SH 'C' North Leinster final today at 12pm in Laois GAA centre.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on December 06, 2016, 12:10:32 PM
Only seeing this now,RS

Pity I didn't see it sooner and I would have tipped into it.

Any chance you might let us know the final score and who played well
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on December 06, 2016, 01:29:57 PM
Not at it clonadmad, i just saw the fixture on the Leinster GAA site. Maybe someone else knew about the game and tipped on it to it.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: County baller on December 06, 2016, 05:01:24 PM
Wasn't at the game myself but as far as I know the CBS lost by 2 points after extra time.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on December 06, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
According to the website,5 Teams in  Senior C in the North Leinster section

1. Portlaoise C.B.S.
2. Boyne C.S.Trim Co.Meath
3. Sc. Mhuire, Clane Co.Kildare
4. Mercy Sec. Sch., Kilbeggan
5. Col Naomh Cormac Kilcormac

Trim now go on and play the winners of the South Leinster and then play the winners of the Dublin schools for the Leinster title.

Would I be right in saying that competitive hurling would finished for this group as of today?.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on December 06, 2016, 08:55:21 PM
I don't mean any offence to schools but none of them would strike you as hurling strongholds. It's not that awfully long ago that the cbs played Leinster A hurling for a brief time and were generally a strong team in Leinster B. Is there any push on to get them back into higher grades within the school?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on December 06, 2016, 09:25:34 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on December 06, 2016, 08:55:21 PM
I don't mean any offence to schools but none of them would strike you as hurling strongholds. It's not that awfully long ago that the cbs played Leinster A hurling for a brief time and were generally a strong team in Leinster B. Is there any push on to get them back into higher grades within the school?
Must not be much Hurling in Portlaoise Parish anymore, could explain the Fintans/Clonad thing. Desperate times and all that.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on December 06, 2016, 10:06:29 PM
While clonad may be a portlaoise club technically it is based in raheen parish, if the letter of the law regarding parish rule was enforced anyone living in the clonad area should actually be playing for colt, thankfully common sense is used
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on December 08, 2016, 05:18:23 PM
just spotted the CBS Result there now.

Top Oil North Leinster PP Sch SH "C" Final
Portlaoise CBS    1-14     Boyne CS  Trim  1-16   
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Mad Mentor on December 10, 2016, 06:17:21 PM
St. Fergal's won the North Leinster Junior C hurling final yesterday beating Kilcormac 3-11 to 2-11. They came from nine points down at one stage in the first half in a great display of hurling. This is quite a young team as at least four of them were hurling u14 this year. They now meet the winners of the South Leinster. No idea who yet.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on December 12, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
Mon Dec 12th 2016

Top Oil Leinster PP Sch SH "B"
Mountrath C.S. (12.00 pm)        Mountrath C.S. v St. Fergal's, Rathdowney   
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Mad Mentor on December 12, 2016, 09:24:57 PM
Mountrath won this at a canter today. 4-21 to 2-9. St. Fergal's are picking from a very small pool of players. Best of luck to Mountrath. I think they play Johnstown next which will be a much stronger test.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on December 12, 2016, 10:36:26 PM
Some change from 10/15/20 years ago. Is Johnny Casey still teaching in Rathdowney?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Mad Mentor on December 13, 2016, 02:51:52 AM
Johnny Casey is still teaching although I think this may be his last year. Sean Conroy has taken on the mantle of managing the hurling teams. Fergal's has always punched above it's weight but the growth of community schools has made it harder to compete. Fergal's has about 300 pupils while Mountrath has over 700. Heywood and Johnstown also encroach on what would once have been Fergal's territory.  We hope our Junior team can progress in the Leinster C competition. Having won the North section we now face the South Leinster winners.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on December 13, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
Is it the case that Mountrath CS has grown considerably in recent years as they weren't on the radar as such in the last few years or is it that they are benefitting more from the likes of the Setanta programme.

Heywood have also been around for years albeit as the Salesian college so I would assume that they have always competed with St Fergals fro students. I know the ethos has changed in recent years alright but Fergals has a tradition and is in hurling country so to speak so what has been the big change. Are kids that previously would have gone to Fergals now going to the likes of Mountrath?

Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on December 14, 2016, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on December 13, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
Is it the case that Mountrath CS has grown considerably in recent years as they weren't on the radar as such in the last few years or is it that they are benefitting more from the likes of the Setanta programme.

Heywood have also been around for years albeit as the Salesian college so I would assume that they have always competed with St Fergals fro students. I know the ethos has changed in recent years alright but Fergals has a tradition and is in hurling country so to speak so what has been the big change. Are kids that previously would have gone to Fergals now going to the likes of Mountrath?

Ye they definitely are. You would have had very few from, for example, Borris Kilcotton attending school in Mountrath 10-15 years ago.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on December 29, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 09:16:52 PM
It's not about an insular approach, it's about appointing a teacher based on his ability to teach not because he's a hurler who won an auld all Ireland. As pointed out there's plenty in there who can do that as it is, typical Laois, always dazzled by the shiny trinkets.

Pat Aherne didn't have too many baubles and did a great job for a long number of years because he had a passion for it. Same with Mick Scully.

Is that the former referee from Carlow?
Did he work in Portlaoise CBS?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on December 29, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on December 29, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on November 22, 2016, 09:16:52 PM
It's not about an insular approach, it's about appointing a teacher based on his ability to teach not because he's a hurler who won an auld all Ireland. As pointed out there's plenty in there who can do that as it is, typical Laois, always dazzled by the shiny trinkets.

Pat Aherne didn't have too many baubles and did a great job for a long number of years because he had a passion for it. Same with Mick Scully.

Is that the former referee from Carlow?
Did he work in Portlaoise CBS?
Yes
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 07, 2017, 03:33:50 PM
Top Oil PP Leinster Schools Senior A Hurling
Full Time Laois Schools: 3-17(26)
Meath Schools: 0-15(15)
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on January 07, 2017, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on January 07, 2017, 03:33:50 PM
Top Oil PP Leinster Schools Senior A Hurling
Full Time Laois Schools: 3-17(26)
Meath Schools: 0-15(15)

Good result

They go into the last 4 in the combined schools
Group,the winners of this group plays Kilkenny CBS in the Leinster quarter final.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 07, 2017, 05:56:09 PM
Dublin South next. Anyone put up the club spread for the players today.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on January 07, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
Report here

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1173851892735208
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 07, 2017, 08:38:35 PM
Saw that thanks but no clubs listed.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on January 26, 2017, 04:31:04 PM
I see where Mountrath CS were well beaten by Johnstown last week. They mustn't have the talent of the previous couple of years.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on February 15, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
If anyone is interested in seeing the next group of young hurlers in action there is post primary Juv hurling A league game between Laois schools and St Kierans in the Laois GAA training centre on Friday at 11.30am.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on February 15, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
IT Carlow have beaten UL 4-16 to 0-23 in the Fitzgibbon Cup Quarter Final. H'on Laois.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 03, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
Laois Colleges Combined Juvenile side drew 2-12 to 3-9 against St Peters Wexford in Wexford today. Encouraging signs coming from that team.
I see where the minor hurlers play Dublin in Heywood tomorrow in the minor hurling league.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on March 21, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Couple of interesting results from the schools competitions during March.

St Fergals were beaten by St Fintans from Sutton in Dublin (not a particularly big school) in the Juv C semi final. What's happening with Fergals as they seem to be in trouble with the hurling in the school. They really need to have a look at this.

Laois Schools lost by 2 points to Good Counsel in Juv H 'A' league semi final. They have performed reasonably well in this competition. Are Mountrath CS involved in this as I haven't seen them mentioned anywhere?

On another note the likes of Naas CBS is winning the SH B final against Colaiste Eoin which is a big result for a Kildare school and is good for hurling.

As has been stated many times we need to start a primary level which feeds into secondary schools and these competitions.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on March 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 21, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Couple of interesting results from the schools competitions during March.

St Fergals were beaten by St Fintans from Sutton in Dublin (not a particularly big school) in the Juv C semi final. What's happening with Fergals as they seem to be in trouble with the hurling in the school. They really need to have a look at this.

Your post is answered simply, by saying Mountrath CS. They have taken a lot of what traditionally went to Fergals, and its just a fact of life.

MCS don't contribute to Laois Schools as they play in A competitions to the best of my knowledge at all grades. The schools performances were encouraging in this regard.

Naas is an outlier in Kildare, they have done magnificent work in hurling, read more here http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/naas-nurturing-a-generation-of-hurling-trailblazers-34138486.html

The minor hurling result at the weekend makes me despair and wonder why we bother.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Mad Mentor on March 22, 2017, 10:00:14 AM
Fergal's is and has always been a small school with around 300 or so pupils. A lot of other former vocational schools have amalgamated and become much bigger schools, eg Mountrath. We lose lads to Mountrath, Heywood, Johnstown and Templemore from what would have been traditionally Fergal's territory, so are picking from a very small pool of players. Not withstanding that, we could have/should have beaten Sutton. In a game of two halves our lads didn't score enough with the wind in the first half. In the North final we beat Kilcormac who had hammered what was much the same team two years ago so there has been progression. Clough Ballacolla and Borris Kilcotton have had a few years with very small numbers as their taking part in the B competitions at u16 shows and this has had a big impact.
   The future is brighter however as the u14 team is still in competition and looks very strong with big wins over Kilcormac and Roscrea lately. Joe Dollard from Galmoy has joined the teaching staff and will be a great support to Mr. Conroy who has ploughed a lonely furrow since Mr. Casey stepped back a couple of years ago.
    Laois Minors looked very poor last week and we may have a drought for a few years. However last years u14 championship was the strongest for years and we look to have a lot of talent coming through from u12 and u14 at the moment. This year's u14 development squad is the strongest I have seen for a few years, so there is hope for the future.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clootfromthe21 on March 22, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on March 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 21, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Couple of interesting results from the schools competitions during March.

St Fergals were beaten by St Fintans from Sutton in Dublin (not a particularly big school) in the Juv C semi final. What's happening with Fergals as they seem to be in trouble with the hurling in the school. They really need to have a look at this.

Your post is answered simply, by saying Mountrath CS. They have taken a lot of what traditionally went to Fergals, and its just a fact of life.

MCS don't contribute to Laois Schools as they play in A competitions to the best of my knowledge at all grades. The schools performances were encouraging in this regard.

Naas is an outlier in Kildare, they have done magnificent work in hurling, read more here http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/naas-nurturing-a-generation-of-hurling-trailblazers-34138486.html

The minor hurling result at the weekend makes me despair and wonder why we bother.

The result against Antrim?

Why would that in particular make you despair?  Laois beat Dublin, Dublin beat Antrim, Antrim beat Laois. That would suggest that there is not a whole lot of difference in standard, albeit I read somewhere that it was Dublin's "B" team.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on March 22, 2017, 01:01:41 PM
Quote from: clootfromthe21 on March 22, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on March 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 21, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Couple of interesting results from the schools competitions during March.

St Fergals were beaten by St Fintans from Sutton in Dublin (not a particularly big school) in the Juv C semi final. What's happening with Fergals as they seem to be in trouble with the hurling in the school. They really need to have a look at this.

Your post is answered simply, by saying Mountrath CS. They have taken a lot of what traditionally went to Fergals, and its just a fact of life.

MCS don't contribute to Laois Schools as they play in A competitions to the best of my knowledge at all grades. The schools performances were encouraging in this regard.

Naas is an outlier in Kildare, they have done magnificent work in hurling, read more here http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/naas-nurturing-a-generation-of-hurling-trailblazers-34138486.html

The minor hurling result at the weekend makes me despair and wonder why we bother.

The result against Antrim?

Why would that in particular make you despair?  Laois beat Dublin, Dublin beat Antrim, Antrim beat Laois. That would suggest that there is not a whole lot of difference in standard, albeit I read somewhere that it was Dublin's "B" team.
Taking a hockeying from any team at home should make one despair. But I'm quite a despairing individual, I despair at pretty much everything. I even despaired at your reply.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on March 22, 2017, 01:21:21 PM
Ha ha! Brilliant!
I think following Leix would make anyone despair!
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on April 10, 2017, 09:44:16 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on March 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 21, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Couple of interesting results from the schools competitions during March.

St Fergals were beaten by St Fintans from Sutton in Dublin (not a particularly big school) in the Juv C semi final. What's happening with Fergals as they seem to be in trouble with the hurling in the school. They really need to have a look at this.

Your post is answered simply, by saying Mountrath CS. They have taken a lot of what traditionally went to Fergals, and its just a fact of life.

MCS don't contribute to Laois Schools as they play in A competitions to the best of my knowledge at all grades. The schools performances were encouraging in this regard.

Naas is an outlier in Kildare, they have done magnificent work in hurling, read more here http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/naas-nurturing-a-generation-of-hurling-trailblazers-34138486.html

The minor hurling result at the weekend makes me despair and wonder why we bother.

Are you still wondering why we bother after the result on Saturday?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 10, 2017, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on April 10, 2017, 09:44:16 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on March 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 21, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Couple of interesting results from the schools competitions during March.

St Fergals were beaten by St Fintans from Sutton in Dublin (not a particularly big school) in the Juv C semi final. What's happening with Fergals as they seem to be in trouble with the hurling in the school. They really need to have a look at this.

Your post is answered simply, by saying Mountrath CS. They have taken a lot of what traditionally went to Fergals, and its just a fact of life.

MCS don't contribute to Laois Schools as they play in A competitions to the best of my knowledge at all grades. The schools performances were encouraging in this regard.

Naas is an outlier in Kildare, they have done magnificent work in hurling, read more here http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/naas-nurturing-a-generation-of-hurling-trailblazers-34138486.html

The minor hurling result at the weekend makes me despair and wonder why we bother.

Are you still wondering why we bother after the result on Saturday?
Surely Offaly aren't our benchmark anymore?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on April 10, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
Well they are still a key rival - so important to beat them. This is not the most highly rated Laois team in recent years so it has to go down as a good win. Last year's team were beaten by Offaly and were supposed to have more potential.

Huge test up in Dublin next week, this will tell where things really are. Hard place to go and hurl. At least we will go with some confidence.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on April 10, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
You're right. Parnell Park next Saturday at 3pm. The old 'team listed first at home' doesn't apply.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Downtheroad on April 10, 2017, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on April 10, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
Well they are still a key rival - so important to beat them. This is not the most highly rated Laois team in recent years so it has to go down as a good win. Last year's team were beaten by Offaly and were supposed to have more potential.

Huge test up in Dublin next week, this will tell where things really are. Hard place to go and hurl. At least we will go with some confidence.
I have to say that was a good result on Saturday. Anytime a Laois team beats Offaly in minor hurling should be both applauded and acknowledged.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 10, 2017, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Downtheroad on April 10, 2017, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on April 10, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
Well they are still a key rival - so important to beat them. This is not the most highly rated Laois team in recent years so it has to go down as a good win. Last year's team were beaten by Offaly and were supposed to have more potential.

Huge test up in Dublin next week, this will tell where things really are. Hard place to go and hurl. At least we will go with some confidence.
I have to say that was a good result on Saturday. Anytime a Laois team beats Offaly in minor hurling should be both applauded and acknowledged.
Absolutely. I shouldn't have read anything into that mickey mouse Leinster league thing.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on April 11, 2017, 12:57:53 PM
http://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=5393023597001&teideal=GAA%202017%20&series=GAA%202017&dlft=35


The Laois v Offaly game is from 35mins in.
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 17, 2017, 02:27:37 PM
Great result for Mountrath CS today. Interesting to note there wasn't a Camross starter considering how they're cleaning up at club level in the county. It has become a very important school for hurling in the county.

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/11/16/mountrath-cs-claim-rest-leinster-junior-hurling-title/ (https://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/11/16/mountrath-cs-claim-rest-leinster-junior-hurling-title/)
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 17, 2017, 02:38:25 PM
Is "Rest of Leinster" schools from the weaker counties or how is it composed?
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: Target Man on November 17, 2017, 07:20:37 PM
A is a 5 team Leinster competition
A1 rest of Leinster excludes Dublin only 4 teams in competition, think Mountrath go on to play Dublin A champions (No Dublin school in Leinster A)
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on November 17, 2017, 07:57:31 PM
Quote from: Target Man on November 17, 2017, 07:20:37 PM
A is a 5 team Leinster competition
A1 rest of Leinster excludes Dublin only 4 teams in competition, think Mountrath go on to play Dublin A champions (No Dublin school in Leinster A)

Thanks for that TM
Title: Re: Schools Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on November 10, 2023, 11:45:11 AM
Bumping this thread to save starting a new one seeing as we'll have a combined team this year.