2022 National Football League

Started by The PRO, January 26, 2022, 10:02:31 AM

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BallyroanAbu

It was a relegation 6 pointer I wouldn't run away with Billy O Loughlin doing that good of a job either.

blueandwhite1

Quote from: redsetanta on March 29, 2022, 11:36:02 AM
I think the general consensus when Billy took over was that we try and stay in Div 3 but it wouldn't be easy. The O'Byrne cup and earlier rounds of the league gave us a greater expectation of how things might play out.
I didn't think we'd survive Div 3 however the initial results were good.
The last time we were in Div 4 we had a better group of players imo and a good manager came in and took us up at the first attempt. This will be different I think with no guarantee of an early return.
Unless we produce a good crop of players over successive years with some emerging talent we will labour.

The team that got relegated to division 4:

LAOIS: Graham Brody; Darren Strong, Denis Booth, James Kelly; Eoin Buggie, Pádraig McMahon, Damien O'Connor; Kevin Meaney, John O'Loughlin; Alan Farrell, David Conway, Ambrose Doran; Donie Kingston, Evan O'Carroll, Paul Kingston. Subs: Gary Walsh for Doran (30mins), Niall Donoher for Kingston (46mins), Danny Luttrell for Walsh (48mins), Seán Moore for Conway (55mins), Gareth Dillon for Farrell (66mins), Danny O'Reilly for O'Carroll

As you say, much stronger than current crop - 100% great footballers and still ended up in division 4. The consensus at the time was that we had a lot of big players with very little pace and mobility on the team. A team of athletes who are ok footballers are likely to do better than a team of footballers with no pace in the modern game.

Gmac

Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 29, 2022, 02:33:08 PM
It was a relegation 6 pointer I wouldn't run away with Billy O Loughlin doing that good of a job either.
not all based on last game , we find it hard to back our people.

blueandwhite1

Quote from: Gmac on March 29, 2022, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on March 29, 2022, 02:33:08 PM
It was a relegation 6 pointer I wouldn't run away with Billy O Loughlin doing that good of a job either.
not all based on last game , we find it hard to back our people.

We did - Billy Sheehan.

Butch Cassidy

Were people not saying they wanted Conway at the helm? We do have some of our 'own' involved.

Is Beano involved?

For me the biggest problems are

1) clubs - standard at senior has been poor for the last few years. 16 teams is too many and clubs are happy to just remain senior. 12 would be more than enough.

2) lads not committing - to get to the levels of division 1 and 2 we really need everyone to commit. It's hard when the realistic ambitions are to get promoted to division 2 and maybe have a crack for the Tailteann cup. I for one hope Laois do give this a rattle. Maybe they could get an away game to NY in the first round.

Throw in Covid and young lads couldn't travel the last few years so can understand why they would now and believe that's why some of the Port lads aren't involved.

If Billy did have everyone available and had better luck with injuries I believe they would have got promoted or at least challenged.

3) underage - this is a big issue. The introduction of 10-11 new GPOs should help in time. When was the last time Stradbally Parish Gaels or St Joes won a minor A title? I'm not having a pop at them but remember a great SPG team that had Quigley/Begley/Colm Kelly at one time and they were great. We badly need the football strongholds producing quality underage teams that feed into the county setup.

4) Pace and power. Our senior team badly lacks this. Is this an issue that comes from clubs/development squads? Ideally we would have an S&C specialist overseeing all county teams.

Spiritof86

Beano was selector until the Kildare challenge game .

redsetanta

Was there a particular reason that Beano left?
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi


The Boy Wonder

Ah good man Town - an intelligible post at last  ;D

Spiritof86


Spiritof86

Quote from: redsetanta on March 31, 2022, 10:57:42 AM
Was there a particular reason that Beano left?
Few issues by all accounts . No coincidence Jake Foster walking around the same time.

town1980

Billy has lost the dressing room not good times ahead