Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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tonto1888

Quote from: dublin7 on March 31, 2021, 03:59:09 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 31, 2021, 03:23:40 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 31, 2021, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 31, 2021, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 31, 2021, 02:48:38 PM
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Pretty sure there were prominent members of FF and FG at the Garda funeral including Charlie Flanagan a minister, if reports are to be believed.

Charlie Flanagan was a has been. There is a difference between him and a leader. If Gerry Adams had gone to Storey funeral and O'Neill and McDonald had stayed away then there wouldn't have been an issue. That is what leadership is about.

For me there is a difference between a Garda who was on killed in the line of duty serving his country and Bobby Storey who at best was a lay citizen and, well at worst, someone trying to destroy the state. One funeral deserves to have leaders of the country at it and the other doesn't.

The mask slips. Your concern has nothing to do with public health. You're outrage is totally dependant on who was in the coffin - ergo you, like Column Eastwood and co. are just using a man's funeral (disregarding his family's grief) in order to score the cheapest of political points. Does covid not spread at Garda funerals, no?

I'm not sure I was masking anything, I have been pretty upfront with my opinions. I'm not scoring political points because I am not a politician.
There is a public health issue absolutely. Regulations were broken at both funerals. But if Gerry Adams unelected citizen attends Bobby Storey Funeral it a breach but that's it. But once Mary Lou, Pearce Doherty, Michelle O'Neill (Deputy First Minister) attends then it is an issue. She is making the rules and then breaking them. Why is she allowed to attend a funeral that breaks regulations and rest of us not? Additionally there were further breaches at the Graveside Oration (Michelle O'Neill posed for pics with 2 Dublin SF members).

With regards to the Garda, Political Leaders should attend as they are representing the state and by extension all of the people. The Garda was murdered on duty. If he dies in his sleep off duty then no, they shouldn't attend. I think it's pretty clear. Many of the other attendees though have broken the regulations.

That's my view anyhow.

I understand that sentiment but Covid regs are Covid regs so no deviation can be expected or explained away.

SF supporters/leadership would disagree with you there unfortunately. It's a strange comparison when you compare the funeral of a garda who died in the line of duty with that of an IRA enforcer.

While both funerals broke covid guidelines only one was organised by a political party and attended by the leadership of the party. SF supporters seem to think the attendance at the garda funeral was somehow the fault/responsibility of political parties in the south, which again is a strange accusation, but the party and its supporters really are clutching at straws trying to justify their own actions so if you keep throwing mud something will stick seems to be the approach

People doing some heavy lifting to make it seem ok that the Garda funeral was alright. They both broke covid regulations and that's the bottom line. It's a lot easier to have a go at people attending the storey funeral tho. I just wish people would have the balls to come and say it like it is. It's because they don't like SF

tonto1888

Quote from: Orior on March 31, 2021, 01:45:55 PM
As far as I am aware, Michelle O'Neill already apologised for an error in judgement. What else could / should Sinn Fein do to satisfy those who are upset by the PPS ruling?

She did indeed. But this gives people a reason to have another go at her for the same thing

pbat

If I was SF I wouldn't go anywhere near Stormont tomorrow. Let them all debate away all day if they wish.

Kidder81

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Quote from: tonto1888 on March 31, 2021, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 31, 2021, 01:45:55 PM
As far as I am aware, Michelle O'Neill already apologised for an error in judgement. What else could / should Sinn Fein do to satisfy those who are upset by the PPS ruling?

She did indeed. But this gives people a reason to have another go at her for the same thing

She said she was sorry for the "hurt" caused to other families but also said in the same breath -

"I will never apologise for attending the funeral of my friend"


Armagh18

Quote from: Kidder81 on March 31, 2021, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 31, 2021, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 31, 2021, 01:45:55 PM
As far as I am aware, Michelle O'Neill already apologised for an error in judgement. What else could / should Sinn Fein do to satisfy those who are upset by the PPS ruling?

She did indeed. But this gives people a reason to have another go at her for the same thing

She said she was sorry for the "hurt" caused to other families but also said in the same breath -

"I will never apologise for attending the funeral of my friend"
Nor should she. Or anyone else.

gallsman

Quote from: trailer on March 31, 2021, 03:21:41 PM

I think in those exceptional and very limited circumstances the state must attend the funeral in as covid compliant way as it can.

Sound, can you please point us to the part of the regulations in the South that say it's ok to beach them all in these limited circumstances and where it identifies the death of a Garda in the line of duty as one of those circumstances? Because if you can't, what "you think" is completely and utterly irrelevant

charlieTully

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Quote from: trailer on March 31, 2021, 02:48:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 31, 2021, 02:41:26 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 31, 2021, 01:51:32 PM
Pretty sure there were prominent members of FF and FG at the Garda funeral including Charlie Flanagan a minister, if reports are to be believed.

Charlie Flanagan was a has been. There is a difference between him and a leader. If Gerry Adams had gone to Storey funeral and O'Neill and McDonald had stayed away then there wouldn't have been an issue. That is what leadership is about.

For me there is a difference between a Garda who was on killed in the line of duty serving his country and Bobby Storey who at best was a lay citizen and, well at worst, someone trying to destroy the state. One funeral deserves to have leaders of the country at it and the other doesn't.

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dublin7

Quote from: pbat on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 PM
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Could be a dangerous summer ahead.

The problem for SF is if they try to stop any bonfire/march etc on the basis of social distancing/Covid restrictions they've no credibility so what do they do then

general_lee

I reckon bonfires would have went ahead regardless this year

balladmaker

Quote from: pbat on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 PM
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Could be a dangerous summer ahead.

Burning and polluting their own communities, if this is their culture, then they really don't have alot going for them.

David McKeown

Quote from: pbat on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 PM
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Could be a dangerous summer ahead.

I see several groups have posted the same message. Spelling mistakes and all. One hive mind these groups
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red hander

Quote from: dublin7 on March 31, 2021, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: pbat on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 PM
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Could be a dangerous summer ahead.

The problem for SF is if they try to stop any bonfire/march etc on the basis of social distancing/Covid restrictions they've no credibility so what do they do then

Why would the Shinners try to stop these scum polluting their shithole ghettos even more? Nothing to do with them. It's police's job. And they'll do what they always do in face of loyalist threats, f**k all squared.

Orior

Quote from: red hander on March 31, 2021, 11:52:38 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 31, 2021, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: pbat on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 PM
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Could be a dangerous summer ahead.

The problem for SF is if they try to stop any bonfire/march etc on the basis of social distancing/Covid restrictions they've no credibility so what do they do then

Why would the Shinners try to stop these scum polluting their shithole ghettos even more? Nothing to do with them. It's police's job. And they'll do what they always do in face of loyalist threats, f**k all squared.

Yes, but doing nothing about bonfires will restore confidence in policing.
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Snapchap

Quote from: dublin7 on March 31, 2021, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: pbat on March 31, 2021, 10:28:41 PM
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Could be a dangerous summer ahead.

The problem for SF is if they try to stop any bonfire/march etc on the basis of social distancing/Covid restrictions they've no credibility so what do they do then

If you read that article and your gut instinct was to attack SF, it says an awful lot about you.