The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[T Fearon]

Same old same old.Brendan's European know how far from convincing

[illdecide]

Same old same old.Brendan's European know how far from convincing

What's wrong T, no one dead recently to mock

[StGallsGAA]

I see as a joke Zenit put the Boston Celtics logo on the match programme in response to Celtic putting their old club crest on the match programme last week.

That's brilliant 😂😂

It's +15 degrees in the stadium -18 apparently that's an amazing bit of engineering

Not really. While the rest of us freeze half of Fermanagh is +30 all Winter courtesy of Arlene. 

[T Fearon]

Hard to see where Brendan goes from here.Another domestic treble won't raise a clap hardly and Europe another poor failure

[clarshack]

Pathetic 

[From the Bunker]

So is it time to get rid of Brendan? Has he brought them to a certain point and can't bring them any further?

Who would take the job?

[Dash83]

We should hang on to him for the 10 in a row and then sack him for under performing...

[tonto1888]

Hard to see where Brendan goes from here.Another domestic treble won't raise a clap hardly and Europe another poor failure

maybe not from you

[From the Bunker]

Hard to see where Brendan goes from here.Another domestic treble won't raise a clap hardly and Europe another poor failure

Maybe we should go back to the days of Ronnie. Where winning trophies was exciting, because there was uncertainty. And you did not have to worry about Hammerings in Europe because you were not there to get a hammering!

[screenexile]

So is it time to get rid of Brendan? Has he brought them to a certain point and can't bring them any further?

Who would take the job?

Who else are you gonna get?? Pep?

Scottish football is where it is and while there may be a slight improvement year to year Celtic will still get hammered in the group stages of the CL and possibly make a QF or SF in a good year in the Europa league.

They should try to keep Rogers but will he want to stay if that's as much as he can achieve with Celtic?

[illdecide]

Five things to get off my chest after this latest awful performance in European football

1. LACK OF SURPRISE. Is there one single Celtic supporter anywhere that is surprised at the manner of that performance tonight. It was awful, absolutely awful. These players collectively seem to have a mental block when faced with quality opposition and Zenit are a decent side but hardly brilliant. In fact they didn't really need to show us what they can do because the goals were gift wrapped and presented to them by shocking Celtic defending.

2. BACKING BRENDAN. Let's start with the money. There's £30million in the bank from the money the club have made from Brendan's time in charge. Then there's the £9.5million they will get from the Virgil van Dijk sell-on clause after that and assuming we don't blow things domestically, then there's the Champions League money from later in the year. The thing about that is it is taking into account the supporters buying the three match package, should we get through the qualifiers. I have heard fans who go to the games home and away, start to question this and think that the money might be better in their pockets and watching the game for free in the pub. Brendan needs a goalkeeper, a central defender and a right back at the very least and everyone knows it. If he's not given the resources he may decide to let someone else have a go.

3. JAMES FORREST AND SCOTT BROWN. IN Ronny's last season when Griffiths scored 40 goals and basically carried the team to the finishing line, we wondered what would we do without super Leigh. This time around we are operating with Forrest and Brown consistently carrying the team, that's a little harsh on KT to we'll give him pass marks. As for the rest? We have more passengers this season than our bus to Pittodrie on Sunday and that's only due to the lack of tickets.

4. THOSE INJURIES. Our players after the 1998 World Cup returned and from France and Celtic really suffered for a while, we had a rotten season other than the 5-1 game when Lubo introduced himself. We had so many injuries that season and didn't Lubo play up from out of necessity? Anyway, this season after a summer break amounting to 2 or for the lucky ones 3 weeks – Scotland played England on 10 June and 6 of our players were involved. They reported back to Lennoxtown two weeks later. This season we have been falling like flies. Has anyone asked why?

5. THE WAY FORWARD. Everyone of us Celtic supporters want the very best for Celtic and we have supported the team 100%. However Brendan is a world class football manager and there are players in that squad who continually let him and us down on the bigger stages. They need to be replaced. Brendan made his mind up about numerous players in Ronny's squad when he arrived and they guys were shipped out one way or another. He now needs to do the same thing with the current squad and the Board need to give him the money that he needs to do the job. Brendan knows he's not got English Premier League money to play with at celtic and he has been happy with things – that, you sense is changing. He has adapted his ambitions to match Celtic's position in the game, now it's time for Celtic to adapt to match their manager's standing.

That was an article on a Celtic website and it's hard to disagree with it, i'm still quite angry from last nights games but as the article says "not surprising"

[Esmarelda]

Agree with most of that illdecide.

Lustig was terrible last night and as Chris Sutton said in commentary, what happened in a week that made Celtic so bad? It's not like Zenit improved that much. Dundalk ran this crowd close twelve months ago and they had Witsel in that team before he headed to China.

Then again, what players are going to want to come to Scotland that will improve things?

Also, although he wasn't the worst last night, I'm really struggling with the relative hype about Dembele.

[ned]

So is it time to get rid of Brendan? Has he brought them to a certain point and can't bring them any further?

Who would take the job?

Who else are you gonna get?? Pep?

Scottish football is where it is and while there may be a slight improvement year to year Celtic will still get hammered in the group stages of the CL and possibly make a QF or SF in a good year in the Europa league.

They should try to keep Rogers but will he want to stay if that's as much as he can achieve with Celtic?

Why always the clamour for change. I'll just copy and paste and old post which sums up where we are and what BR means to Celtic.

He will not leave without some major change in circumstances. He knows full well (and knew when he took the job) what the restrictions are. He is not motivated by money, having made plenty through and away from football. Celtic is his club and he wishes to leave Celtic having created a lasting dynasty. Now that might be fanciful but he isn't going to up sticks at the first lucrative offer to come along fom England. He has already managed one of the biggest clubs in England and his ambition lies beyond that. He knows how fickle football clubs are. Unless the Celtic board renege on promises or Celtic start to fail, he is here for the foreseeable. This year was always going to be tough after the heights of last but lets see what happens. Next year if things have not progressed then perhaps is the time to start talking about BR leaving.

There are plenty of posts elsewhere about the amount of football we have played in the past 20 months. Sinclair has played more games since he joined Celtic than he did in the preceeding 5 years or so. Tierney has played more games than any other player in Europe this year. And so on. We played the Scottish cup towards the end of May and were back training before the end of June last year. I feel fatigue, mentally as much as anything, is a massive factor. I've always felt next year is the biggest year to see where we are. Celtic supporters act like spoilt brats at time, "I want it all and now".

[lenny]

So is it time to get rid of Brendan? Has he brought them to a certain point and can't bring them any further?

Who would take the job?

Who else are you gonna get?? Pep?

Scottish football is where it is and while there may be a slight improvement year to year Celtic will still get hammered in the group stages of the CL and possibly make a QF or SF in a good year in the Europa league.

They should try to keep Rogers but will he want to stay if that's as much as he can achieve with Celtic?

Why always the clamour for change. I'll just copy and paste and old post which sums up where we are and what BR means to Celtic.

He will not leave without some major change in circumstances. He knows full well (and knew when he took the job) what the restrictions are. He is not motivated by money, having made plenty through and away from football. Celtic is his club and he wishes to leave Celtic having created a lasting dynasty. Now that might be fanciful but he isn't going to up sticks at the first lucrative offer to come along fom England. He has already managed one of the biggest clubs in England and his ambition lies beyond that. He knows how fickle football clubs are. Unless the Celtic board renege on promises or Celtic start to fail, he is here for the foreseeable. This year was always going to be tough after the heights of last but lets see what happens. Next year if things have not progressed then perhaps is the time to start talking about BR leaving.

There are plenty of posts elsewhere about the amount of football we have played in the past 20 months. Sinclair has played more games since he joined Celtic than he did in the preceeding 5 years or so. Tierney has played more games than any other player in Europe this year. And so on. We played the Scottish cup towards the end of May and were back training before the end of June last year. I feel fatigue, mentally as much as anything, is a massive factor. I've always felt next year is the biggest year to see where we are. Celtic supporters act like spoilt brats at time, "I want it all and now".

Well said.

[stew]

Five things to get off my chest after this latest awful performance in European football

1. LACK OF SURPRISE. Is there one single Celtic supporter anywhere that is surprised at the manner of that performance tonight. It was awful, absolutely awful. These players collectively seem to have a mental block when faced with quality opposition and Zenit are a decent side but hardly brilliant. In fact they didn't really need to show us what they can do because the goals were gift wrapped and presented to them by shocking Celtic defending.

2. BACKING BRENDAN. Let's start with the money. There's £30million in the bank from the money the club have made from Brendan's time in charge. Then there's the £9.5million they will get from the Virgil van Dijk sell-on clause after that and assuming we don't blow things domestically, then there's the Champions League money from later in the year. The thing about that is it is taking into account the supporters buying the three match package, should we get through the qualifiers. I have heard fans who go to the games home and away, start to question this and think that the money might be better in their pockets and watching the game for free in the pub. Brendan needs a goalkeeper, a central defender and a right back at the very least and everyone knows it. If he's not given the resources he may decide to let someone else have a go.

3. JAMES FORREST AND SCOTT BROWN. IN Ronny's last season when Griffiths scored 40 goals and basically carried the team to the finishing line, we wondered what would we do without super Leigh. This time around we are operating with Forrest and Brown consistently carrying the team, that's a little harsh on KT to we'll give him pass marks. As for the rest? We have more passengers this season than our bus to Pittodrie on Sunday and that's only due to the lack of tickets.

4. THOSE INJURIES. Our players after the 1998 World Cup returned and from France and Celtic really suffered for a while, we had a rotten season other than the 5-1 game when Lubo introduced himself. We had so many injuries that season and didn't Lubo play up from out of necessity? Anyway, this season after a summer break amounting to 2 or for the lucky ones 3 weeks – Scotland played England on 10 June and 6 of our players were involved. They reported back to Lennoxtown two weeks later. This season we have been falling like flies. Has anyone asked why?

5. THE WAY FORWARD. Everyone of us Celtic supporters want the very best for Celtic and we have supported the team 100%. However Brendan is a world class football manager and there are players in that squad who continually let him and us down on the bigger stages. They need to be replaced. Brendan made his mind up about numerous players in Ronny's squad when he arrived and they guys were shipped out one way or another. He now needs to do the same thing with the current squad and the Board need to give him the money that he needs to do the job. Brendan knows he's not got English Premier League money to play with at celtic and he has been happy with things – that, you sense is changing. He has adapted his ambitions to match Celtic's position in the game, now it's time for Celtic to adapt to match their manager's standing.

That was an article on a Celtic website and it's hard to disagree with it, i'm still quite angry from last nights games but as the article says "not surprising"

Good post Illdecide, I think young Ralston could be the next right back no bother, a goalkeeper is very much needed as is a fit, stong central defender, other than that Celtic are in good shape however they are naive in Europe away from home, bar the 3-0 Anderlecht result that is.

I am absolutely gobsmacked at so called fans clamouring for Rodgers to go, who the hell do they think they could get that could do anywhere close to the job he has done? They must have very short memories.

Rodgers has not put a foot wrong as Celtic manager apart from trying to play expansive football against the richest clubs on the planet, he drew with City twice in the CL, he has qualified for the CL twice and young players are flocking to the place to develop under him, yet the numpties want him out, unreal, maybe they could attract the likes of pedro or warburton or Brady to take over.