Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[Ghost]

Hard to remember a team dropping as many short in a single game as Derry did today. Midfield was dominated when the game really mattered too.

All round the team looked fatigued (possibly disinterested) and Donegal brought a greater intensity to the game.

And no mention of the bombscare keeper.

Think that speaks for itself. A disaster all round. Can't believe they persisted with it after the 1st let alone the 2nd.

3rd?

Well doing it after the 2nd time obviously led to it happening the 3rd time...

[ONeill]

Don't think Derry too worried about winning Ulster again.

However, the blueprint has been set by Jimmy.

[StephenC]

Any day you head into Celtic park and come away with a win is a good day. Against a genuine AI contender makes it even sweeter. After a shakey first 10 minutes we settled into the game really well and I thought our younger lads showed great composure and courage throughout. Ciaran Moore was brilliant at full back; McCole, McGonagle and O'Baoill have some engines; Niall O'Donnell and Ryan McHugh are so good on the ball and able to take on their men 121.

Our MF was up against one of the strongest in the country and honestly made Rogers and Glass look very ordinary - that's where the game was won for me. We coped with the black card and the loss of Patton fairly well too which was great to see.

Jim said it afterwards - we had 6 months to prepare for that game and one week to prepare for the next one, so not a surprise that we had our setup right. Tactically, it reminded me of Dublin in 2014. Lots of space left in behind by Derry and we made hay off our long kickouts.

This is a great boost for this team and for the whole county. Always important to enjoy days like this before turning the mind to the next challenge. So I'm away to have another beer.

Up Donegal!

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Don't think Derry too worried about winning Ulster again.

However, the blueprint has been set by Jimmy.

It's the manner of the defeat. Absolutely obliterated by McGuinness.

[Wildweasel74]

Was very disppointed after the game, but not overly worried now, we out, Derry didn't change after the keeper 1st mistake, and every player was off their game,why no player told the keeper to stay bck on his own 45 on the Donegal kickout, I don't understand. Derry had a very heavy training block recently and it showed badly the day, even taking in the keeper mishaps. Kerry and Galway weren't great the day either.

[RedHand88]

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

[Truthsayer]

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

[Captain Obvious]

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.


https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/

[Wildweasel74]

Where's Redhand been at last couple of weeks?

[Wildweasel74]

Still think we issues up front. If McGuigan is held or off his game, the other lads can't seem to pick it up. Murray was good last day, wouldn't knew he was there the day. Glass was poor, but there were a half dozen even worse than him. We just have to see where they go in a month's time. I rather see McAvoy at Full back and McKinless back in the center. And keep a more defensive set up, as under Gallagher, and play horses for courses. Certain teams you should know there style of plays and what suits. Donegal today, you had match their style, we played way too open.

[screenexile]

Still think we issues up front. If McGuigan is held or off his game, the other lads can't seem to pick it up. Murray was good last day, wouldn't knew he was there the day. Glass was poor, but there were a half dozen even worse than him. We just have to see where they go in a month's time. I rather see McAvoy at Full back and McKinless back in the center. And keep a more defensive set up, as under Gallagher, and play horses for courses. Certain teams you should know there style of plays and what suits. Donegal today, you had match their style, we played way too open.

We didn't play particularly well and scored 17 points... we hit a few short and wide but the problem was not with our attacking play it was MF and how we defended!

[Truthsayer]

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.


https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/

You went a long way back to find that championship match... 2017. he'd brought them on a long way since that wudnt have that hit today... As for a league game, is irrelevant, sure Tyrone got hammered in the league by Kerry in 2021 and took Sam up the road a few months later.
Mickey aint going to deliver Sam for Derry... sorry

[RedHand88]

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.


https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/

That championship match was 2017 he'd brought them on a long way since that.. as for a league game irrelevant sure Tyrone got hammered in the league by Kerry in 2021 and took Sam up the road a few months later.
Mickey can't handle the big championship games... not in years...

Great man for the McKenna cups though! #champion #warratrophy

[Captain Obvious]

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.


https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/

That championship match was 2017 he'd brought them on a long way since that.. as for a league game irrelevant sure Tyrone got hammered in the league by Kerry in 2021 and took Sam up the road a few months later.
Mickey can't handle th
The big championship games... not in years...

It was relevant as Gallagher's Derry were well beaten by Galway when they met again in the championship that summer.  Donegal today under Jim McGuinness dismantled Derry in similar fashion to that Dublin v Donegal championship match in 2014.  Jim Gavin after that match made Dublin a more careful team in possession and with a strong focus that they wouldn't be caught out as easy on the counter attack again. 

[onefineday]

Don't think Derry too worried about winning Ulster again.

However, the blueprint has been set by Jimmy.

It's the manner of the defeat. Absolutely obliterated by McGuinness.

Getting beat is no harm, my preference would have been a loss on penalties. But we were worryingly outmanoeuvred today.
Donegal had done their homework and exploited the opportunities, we failed to react and adapt.
I'd disagree with screen on our attacking play, imo we lacked any cutting edge today, our speed and incisiveness was non-existent, very few line breaks, we didn't/couldn't carry the ball at pace. Our normal game plan just wasn't there. Barely won a breaking ball either.

The rest should do us good and the seeding is largely irrelevant as has been discussed ad nauseum. Better to have 4 weeks off than 2 more games where you could still end up as a losing provincial finalist, meaning you cannot draw the Munster or Leinster finalists, who will be the weakest teams in the competition.

Oh, and to those questioning Glass and all that nonsense, go to a game and watch what he does, he's everywhere, covering space, organising team mates, providing an outlet. Phenomenal athlete with an incredible football brain on him.