All Ireland club football championships 2022/23

[seafoid]

I have no dog in this fight .
KC’s super club image(financial strength, numbers strength and star player recruitment) has no relevance. 16 men on the field at a crucial vulnerable time for them , is a clear advantage penalised by rule.
I would ignore Mannion as 17th player , he was nowhere near the play or the line of vision to the goal.

In several years of involvement with the GAA I have never come across an issue with crucial play proceeding before sub went off . Sitting in hogan stand I commented that there seemed to be chaos around KC substitutions in injury time. KC conceded two second half goals ( from a 45, and last kick) into Hill 16 end last year in AI final. They nearly got caught in injury time in this year’s AI semi.
Subs at top level are usually pre-organised , Mullins number was up , on PA system, subs board and two big  screens . There is real possibility that he knew exactly what he was doing , by positioning himself on the goal line at a crucial period .
In short:
1. KC recent defensive history indicates a late goal was a real possibility
2. There is real possibility that Mullin staying on was not accidental
3. Rule was contravened (possibly deliberately) to the clear advantage of the winners at a crucial
Period of vulnerability for them
4. There is a clear evidence of this
5. Glen IMO have a duty to their players, management and members to do everything possible to win AI within the rules. This is not unsporting given the above
6. If KC are good enough they’ll win the replay 15 v 15

Great post

[Wildweasel74]

If I remember right, No. 14 proceeded to go up the field as the  ball was due to be kicked out, was it the ref informed him he was to go off?

[Look-Up!]

If I remember right, No. 14 proceeded to go up the field as the  ball was due to be kicked out, was it the ref informed him he was to go off?

Ref was definitely trying to get him off but he was in no hurry. Goalie too in no hurry with kick out. Think it took about 45 seconds for the kick out to happen between the no.1 and 14 messing. Looked like the ref just wanted it all to end as quick as possible. The actual Glenn play for the 45 took all of 5 or 6 seconds, and considering there was nearly a minute of play left when the 45 was awarded, leaving the 16 player issue aside, KC definitely exploited a weak referee on using the time clock to their advantage.

 

[Milltown Row2]

If I remember right, No. 14 proceeded to go up the field as the  ball was due to be kicked out, was it the ref informed him he was to go off?

Ref was definitely trying to get him off but he was in no hurry. Goalie too in no hurry with kick out. Think it took about 45 seconds for the kick out to happen between the no.1 and 14 messing. Looked like the ref just wanted it all to end as quick as possible. The actual Glenn play for the 45 took all of 5 or 6 seconds, and considering there was nearly a minute of play left when the 45 was awarded, leaving the 16 player issue aside, KC definitely exploited a weak referee on using the time clock to their advantage.

If you are a player on the winning side you’ll wind down the clock, 3 minutes injury given and the ref did allow more time on top of that, you can’t add time for slow kick outs, subs and injuries yes.

I was lambasted for adding 6 minutes in extra time for lads pissing about and winding down the clock, in a county final. Seems I was correct by the posts on here

[seafoid]

If I remember right, No. 14 proceeded to go up the field as the  ball was due to be kicked out, was it the ref informed him he was to go off?

The own goal line isn't the usual hunting ground of full forwards

[Look-Up!]

If I remember right, No. 14 proceeded to go up the field as the  ball was due to be kicked out, was it the ref informed him he was to go off?

Ref was definitely trying to get him off but he was in no hurry. Goalie too in no hurry with kick out. Think it took about 45 seconds for the kick out to happen between the no.1 and 14 messing. Looked like the ref just wanted it all to end as quick as possible. The actual Glenn play for the 45 took all of 5 or 6 seconds, and considering there was nearly a minute of play left when the 45 was awarded, leaving the 16 player issue aside, KC definitely exploited a weak referee on using the time clock to their advantage.

If you are a player on the winning side you’ll wind down the clock, 3 minutes injury given and the ref did allow more time on top of that, you can’t add time for slow kick outs, subs and injuries yes.

I was lambasted for adding 6 minutes in extra time for lads pissing about and winding down the clock, in a county final. Seems I was correct by the posts on here

At least 3 minutes injury time to the discretion of referee. Just watched end back on TG4 player. About a minute left when 45 happened. Took 70 seconds to finally take it. Ball in play for 5 seconds. Took about 45 seconds for the ball to be kicked out. 20 seconds of that was trying to get the illegal player to go off. Ref then immediately blew time.

Under normal circumstances I can't imagine much of a problem with letting the kick out develop for half a minute or so. But that's besides the point. It "all happened so quickly" argument doesn't really add up in defence of referee or KC.

[seafoid]

If I remember right, No. 14 proceeded to go up the field as the  ball was due to be kicked out, was it the ref informed him he was to go off?

Ref was definitely trying to get him off but he was in no hurry. Goalie too in no hurry with kick out. Think it took about 45 seconds for the kick out to happen between the no.1 and 14 messing. Looked like the ref just wanted it all to end as quick as possible. The actual Glenn play for the 45 took all of 5 or 6 seconds, and considering there was nearly a minute of play left when the 45 was awarded, leaving the 16 player issue aside, KC definitely exploited a weak referee on using the time clock to their advantage.

If you are a player on the winning side you’ll wind down the clock, 3 minutes injury given and the ref did allow more time on top of that, you can’t add time for slow kick outs, subs and injuries yes.

I was lambasted for adding 6 minutes in extra time for lads pissing about and winding down the clock, in a county final. Seems I was correct by the posts on here

At least 3 minutes injury time to the discretion of referee. Just watched end back on TG4 player. About a minute left when 45 happened. Took 70 seconds to finally take it. Ball in play for 5 seconds. Took about 45 seconds for the ball to be kicked out. 20 seconds of that was trying to get the illegal player to go off. Ref then immediately blew time.

Under normal circumstances I can't imagine much of a problem with letting the kick out develop for half a minute or so. But that's besides the point. It "all happened so quickly" argument doesn't really add up in defence of referee or KC.

The core of the KC defence seems to be quite ropey ie ref's fault, everything happened so fast, chaos.
Everything could have been found out on Sunday evening. Surely all Ireland finals deserve the best compliance.
The GAA have to improve in this area. The current set up is arseways.  I bet  the FAI could do better

[pbat]

Scotstown pulling a Kilmacud, Big money signing