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skeog

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Although we played Tyrone (with MH as manager) in the NFL at Celtic Park in 2011 and we beat them ... Declan Mullan was on at RHF and he had a great game.   

onefineday

You'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.

shawshank

Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.


Are u serious, he is one of the best managers of all time ffs. There isn't a team he has taken that has not done well. Derry won't be regressing any time soon.

ck

Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.

This is a very strange take! Harte may not be the greatest manager and undoubtedly has some failings, but he's one of the most successful managers. He's going to Derry for one reason and one reason only!
I have been informed reliably that it was the players who went and got Harte/Devlin. As the county board were scrambling around trying to work out a way to pathetically get RG back, the players had other ideas and met with Harte/Devlin.

Estimator

'Screens victory last night means that we've won as many games in C'ship league as we did in the regular league!

It puts a bit of daylight between us and Dungiven and Swatragh. Both of them have to win their remaining two fixtures to get to 6pts. Coleraine are now odds on for one of the two relegation spots. With one game remaining, they can only get to 2pts and that game is against Dungiven.

I'm assuming if two teams are level on points then it's head to head, but if it's 3 or more, then it goes to score difference.
Ulster League Champions 2009

tbrick18

Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.

This is a very strange take! Harte may not be the greatest manager and undoubtedly has some failings, but he's one of the most successful managers. He's going to Derry for one reason and one reason only!
I have been informed reliably that it was the players who went and got Harte/Devlin. As the county board were scrambling around trying to work out a way to pathetically get RG back, the players had other ideas and met with Harte/Devlin.

Not doubting your source, but I've also been informed reliably that the players would have welcomed RG back with open arms. It's hard to know unless you are part of the inner sanctum how reliable these sources are.
Harte will think there is an AI there no doubt and he'll be getting well paid, that's whey he's there.
Whether or not the players buy into the Harte ethos remains to be seen and only time will tell.
From a managerial pov, he has the experience to win and AI, but I'm not convinced his style of play can beat Dublin/Kerry.
It's also very hard to get behind a manager who in the past seemed to take so much pleasure in beating Derry.

A lot of media coverage yesterday on his character witness for a convicted rapist too asks the question, is he any worse than RG in terms of alleged past behaviour?
But Harte has been in management during that time and since it, but the media now seem to think its a bigger deal as he's been appointed in Derry. That is unfair too.

I've mixed emotions on it myself.
I guess if Derry progress on I'll think it was a great appointment, but if not the county board will probably take the flak. It's a huge 50/50 call from the CB to appoint him that's for sure.

God14

Quote from: tbrick18 on September 21, 2023, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.

This is a very strange take! Harte may not be the greatest manager and undoubtedly has some failings, but he's one of the most successful managers. He's going to Derry for one reason and one reason only!
I have been informed reliably that it was the players who went and got Harte/Devlin. As the county board were scrambling around trying to work out a way to pathetically get RG back, the players had other ideas and met with Harte/Devlin.

Not doubting your source, but I've also been informed reliably that the players would have welcomed RG back with open arms. It's hard to know unless you are part of the inner sanctum how reliable these sources are.
Harte will think there is an AI there no doubt and he'll be getting well paid, that's whey he's there.
Whether or not the players buy into the Harte ethos remains to be seen and only time will tell.
From a managerial pov, he has the experience to win and AI, but I'm not convinced his style of play can beat Dublin/Kerry.
It's also very hard to get behind a manager who in the past seemed to take so much pleasure in beating Derry.

A lot of media coverage yesterday on his character witness for a convicted rapist too asks the question, is he any worse than RG in terms of alleged past behaviour?
But Harte has been in management during that time and since it, but the media now seem to think its a bigger deal as he's been appointed in Derry. That is unfair too.

I've mixed emotions on it myself.
I guess if Derry progress on I'll think it was a great appointment, but if not the county board will probably take the flak. It's a huge 50/50 call from the CB to appoint him that's for sure.

One completely bonkers line in an otherwise balanced and sensible post. A staggering comparison to make

RedHand88

Quote from: God14 on September 21, 2023, 12:33:42 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 21, 2023, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.

This is a very strange take! Harte may not be the greatest manager and undoubtedly has some failings, but he's one of the most successful managers. He's going to Derry for one reason and one reason only!
I have been informed reliably that it was the players who went and got Harte/Devlin. As the county board were scrambling around trying to work out a way to pathetically get RG back, the players had other ideas and met with Harte/Devlin.

Not doubting your source, but I've also been informed reliably that the players would have welcomed RG back with open arms. It's hard to know unless you are part of the inner sanctum how reliable these sources are.
Harte will think there is an AI there no doubt and he'll be getting well paid, that's whey he's there.
Whether or not the players buy into the Harte ethos remains to be seen and only time will tell.
From a managerial pov, he has the experience to win and AI, but I'm not convinced his style of play can beat Dublin/Kerry.
It's also very hard to get behind a manager who in the past seemed to take so much pleasure in beating Derry.

A lot of media coverage yesterday on his character witness for a convicted rapist too asks the question, is he any worse than RG in terms of alleged past behaviour?
But Harte has been in management during that time and since it, but the media now seem to think its a bigger deal as he's been appointed in Derry. That is unfair too.

I've mixed emotions on it myself.
I guess if Derry progress on I'll think it was a great appointment, but if not the county board will probably take the flak. It's a huge 50/50 call from the CB to appoint him that's for sure.

One completely bonkers line in an otherwise balanced and sensible post. A staggering comparison to make

I agree. Mental position to take. Some people really don't understand what a character reference is.

The absolute dose on Talkback yesterday who was spitting fire had to have it pointed to her by Crawley that the references are done after a verdict and are nothing to do  with finding someone guilty or not guilty.

shawshank


tbrick18

Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: God14 on September 21, 2023, 12:33:42 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 21, 2023, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: ck on September 21, 2023, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.

This is a very strange take! Harte may not be the greatest manager and undoubtedly has some failings, but he's one of the most successful managers. He's going to Derry for one reason and one reason only!
I have been informed reliably that it was the players who went and got Harte/Devlin. As the county board were scrambling around trying to work out a way to pathetically get RG back, the players had other ideas and met with Harte/Devlin.

Not doubting your source, but I've also been informed reliably that the players would have welcomed RG back with open arms. It's hard to know unless you are part of the inner sanctum how reliable these sources are.
Harte will think there is an AI there no doubt and he'll be getting well paid, that's whey he's there.
Whether or not the players buy into the Harte ethos remains to be seen and only time will tell.
From a managerial pov, he has the experience to win and AI, but I'm not convinced his style of play can beat Dublin/Kerry.
It's also very hard to get behind a manager who in the past seemed to take so much pleasure in beating Derry.

A lot of media coverage yesterday on his character witness for a convicted rapist too asks the question, is he any worse than RG in terms of alleged past behaviour?
But Harte has been in management during that time and since it, but the media now seem to think its a bigger deal as he's been appointed in Derry. That is unfair too.

I've mixed emotions on it myself.
I guess if Derry progress on I'll think it was a great appointment, but if not the county board will probably take the flak. It's a huge 50/50 call from the CB to appoint him that's for sure.

One completely bonkers line in an otherwise balanced and sensible post. A staggering comparison to make

I agree. Mental position to take. Some people really don't understand what a character reference is.

The absolute dose on Talkback yesterday who was spitting fire had to have it pointed to her by Crawley that the references are done after a verdict and are nothing to do  with finding someone guilty or not guilty.

Let me clarify what I mean by that line as I'm not taking a position on it.
Maybe badly worded, I'm trying to highlight the media outrage around Harte being comparable to the media outrage around RG and as such CB comes in for flak.
I'm not trying to compare being a character witness to alleged domestic abuse (which I've stated often on here I don't agree with the media outrage either).

Derryman forever

Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.


Are u serious, he is one of the best managers of all time ffs. There isn't a team he has taken that has not done well. Derry won't be regressing any time soon.


I agree.

I cannot think of a better man for the job. Outside of Jim Gavin .

imtommygunn


rrhf

Quote from: Derryman forever on September 21, 2023, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.


Are u serious, he is one of the best managers of all time ffs. There isn't a team he has taken that has not done well. Derry won't be regressing any time soon.


I agree.

I cannot think of a better man for the job. Outside of Jim Gavin .

There are some buck eejits around Derry if they dont see what Harte will bring... for him to go to Derry is a massive vote of confidence that the county can finally see above the long grass and are now finished with all the self loathing and begrudgery that has dogged them for generations. I for one will be excited for you folks.     

screenexile

Quote from: rrhf on September 21, 2023, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 21, 2023, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:57:38 AM
Quote from: onefineday on September 21, 2023, 06:33:24 AMYou'd just hope the players were consulted in advance and were enthusiastic about this appointment, if not it might prove to be the most disastrous managerial switch since wee Eamon was moved on.
Given the position we're in with a young highly motivated squad and a few years of successful underage teams hopefully starting to come through, this appointment was always going to be pivotal. From a player's point of view, I can't see how the prospect of going to play for Mickey could be in any way appealing. The backroom team will have to be highly innovative to make up for the man at the helm.
Hopefully I'll be eating my words in 9 months time, but I can't understand this appointment and think it'll end in tears, let's hope it doesn't completely derail our chances with this group of players.


Are u serious, he is one of the best managers of all time ffs. There isn't a team he has taken that has not done well. Derry won't be regressing any time soon.


I agree.

I cannot think of a better man for the job. Outside of Jim Gavin .

There are some buck eejits around Derry if they dont see what Harte will bring... for him to go to Derry is a massive vote of confidence that the county can finally see above the long grass and are now finished with all the self loathing and begrudgery that has dogged them for generations. I for one will be excited for you folks.     

Why don't you c***ts take him back if he's so good...