The IRISH RUGBY thread

Started by Donnellys Hollow, October 27, 2009, 05:26:16 PM

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JPGJOHNNYG

They have been unlucky with some draws to be fair and have been booted out by NZ several times and France who we were useless against throughout the eighties and nineties but what I can't understand is that they beat Argentina for fun over and over again but when we meet them in a world cup we seem to sh1t our pants. Argentina ffs

thewobbler

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 13, 2025, 01:41:44 PMThey have been unlucky with some draws to be fair and have been booted out by NZ several times and France who we were useless against throughout the eighties and nineties but what I can't understand is that they beat Argentina for fun over and over again but when we meet them in a world cup we seem to sh1t our pants. Argentina ffs

The answer is above, I do believe. Ireland have arrived in each of the last 3-4 RWCs with an ageing, battered core who then have to play 5 games in 4 weeks, as management have never taken the time to build up minutes and experience among the second string.

The effort Ireland put into the SA and Scotland matches last time around was uncalled for. One of the other was needed, not both.

johnnycool

Quote from: thewobbler on February 13, 2025, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 13, 2025, 01:41:44 PMThey have been unlucky with some draws to be fair and have been booted out by NZ several times and France who we were useless against throughout the eighties and nineties but what I can't understand is that they beat Argentina for fun over and over again but when we meet them in a world cup we seem to sh1t our pants. Argentina ffs

The answer is above, I do believe. Ireland have arrived in each of the last 3-4 RWCs with an ageing, battered core who then have to play 5 games in 4 weeks, as management have never taken the time to build up minutes and experience among the second string.

The effort Ireland put into the SA and Scotland matches last time around was uncalled for. One of the other was needed, not both.

All the same they were on the bad side of the draw with SA, NZ and or France in the groups of quarter final.

England had more or less a stroll on the other side of the draw



thewobbler

Quote from: johnnycool on February 13, 2025, 03:18:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 13, 2025, 02:56:30 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 13, 2025, 01:41:44 PMThey have been unlucky with some draws to be fair and have been booted out by NZ several times and France who we were useless against throughout the eighties and nineties but what I can't understand is that they beat Argentina for fun over and over again but when we meet them in a world cup we seem to sh1t our pants. Argentina ffs

The answer is above, I do believe. Ireland have arrived in each of the last 3-4 RWCs with an ageing, battered core who then have to play 5 games in 4 weeks, as management have never taken the time to build up minutes and experience among the second string.

The effort Ireland put into the SA and Scotland matches last time around was uncalled for. One of the other was needed, not both.

All the same they were on the bad side of the draw with SA, NZ and or France in the groups of quarter final.

England had more or less a stroll on the other side of the draw



Look I'm not saying you can't find a favourable draw in a competition.

But being on that side of the draw meant Ireland were in for a tough quarter-final followed by a substantially easier semi-final. This mattered not if they finished their group in first or second place. Hence flogging the first XV against Scotland in the last group game made no sense. The key game to prepare for was the QF.


Milltown Row2

Its a wonder this thread has any posts at all... Win the games in front of you, not one nation 'throws' the 6 nations with a view on the World Cup, no professional or semi professional rugby player (back in the day) is coming over to Dublin to give it a lash but thinking of the World Cup..

Ireland have been beaten in those games by the better team on the day or a rotten bitta luck or loss of concentration at the wrong time, it's small margins when these teams meet. The Southern hemisphere lads are different gravy and do play in a more competitive competition among themselves..

Yes its disappointing but I actually enjoy the fact that it is an All Ireland sporting team and seeing lads from all sides of the divide wearing Ireland jerseys is great 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2025, 04:49:20 PMIts a wonder this thread has any posts at all... Win the games in front of you, not one nation 'throws' the 6 nations with a view on the World Cup, no professional or semi professional rugby player (back in the day) is coming over to Dublin to give it a lash but thinking of the World Cup..

Ireland have been beaten in those games by the better team on the day or a rotten bitta luck or loss of concentration at the wrong time, it's small margins when these teams meet. The Southern hemisphere lads are different gravy and do play in a more competitive competition among themselves..

Yes its disappointing but I actually enjoy the fact that it is an All Ireland sporting team and seeing lads from all sides of the divide wearing Ireland jerseys is great 

The Munster-Leinster divide.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2025, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2025, 04:49:20 PMIts a wonder this thread has any posts at all... Win the games in front of you, not one nation 'throws' the 6 nations with a view on the World Cup, no professional or semi professional rugby player (back in the day) is coming over to Dublin to give it a lash but thinking of the World Cup..

Ireland have been beaten in those games by the better team on the day or a rotten bitta luck or loss of concentration at the wrong time, it's small margins when these teams meet. The Southern hemisphere lads are different gravy and do play in a more competitive competition among themselves..

Yes its disappointing but I actually enjoy the fact that it is an All Ireland sporting team and seeing lads from all sides of the divide wearing Ireland jerseys is great 

The Munster-Leinster divide.

Aye them too
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

screenexile

Quote from: Dag Dog on February 12, 2025, 11:11:34 PMThe absolute state of this!
I'd nearly cheer for Wales.
https://x.com/offtheball/status/1889283250847088992


Just saw this... what a crowd of pricks! They'll have a segment during the next World Cup then about why the rest of hte Rugby world hates Irish Rugby!!

I do hope we win as I doubt that kind of shit is going on within the team but I also hope Wales put in a very good performance and give a good account of themselves.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: screenexile on February 19, 2025, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 12, 2025, 11:11:34 PMThe absolute state of this!
I'd nearly cheer for Wales.
https://x.com/offtheball/status/1889283250847088992


Just saw this... what a crowd of pricks! They'll have a segment during the next World Cup then about why the rest of hte Rugby world hates Irish Rugby!!

I do hope we win as I doubt that kind of shit is going on within the team but I also hope Wales put in a very good performance and give a good account of themselves.

Ireland missing 3 starters for the game, so won't be full strength.. Wales have to click sometime but it wont be at the weekend
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

rodney trotter

Gerry Thornley was critical of the off ball in his Newspaper piece.

Dag Dog

The damage is done. People see that the typical Irish rugby bandwagon jumper is way too smug.

JPGJOHNNYG

Jamie heaslip was the same at the last world cup acting the d1ck with predictions. I think most Irish fans who remember the late eighties and nineties are humble enough as the times when we couldn't even score a try for a whole campaign don't seem that long ago.

rodney trotter

Heaslip was waffling on about ireland's great Tech innovation after one of the games in the World Cup. Pompous nonsense

Tony Baloney

Heaslip is a tube so let's not compare everyone to him.

ardtole

Quote from: screenexile on February 19, 2025, 10:44:42 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on February 12, 2025, 11:11:34 PMThe absolute state of this!
I'd nearly cheer for Wales.
https://x.com/offtheball/status/1889283250847088992


Just saw this... what a crowd of pricks! They'll have a segment during the next World Cup then about why the rest of hte Rugby world hates Irish Rugby!!

I do hope we win as I doubt that kind of shit is going on within the team but I also hope Wales put in a very good performance and give a good account of themselves.


I used to listen to off the ball regularly but not in the last 2 or 3 years, it's gone downhill rapidly.