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Should play a prediction game. Here's my effort:

Kerry-Meath in Portlaoise
Roscommon-Cork in Limerick

Donegal-Mayo in Sligo
Tyrone-Cavan in Enniskillen

Down-Monaghan in Armagh
Louth-Clare in Portlaoise

Armagh-Galway in Cavan/Roscommon
Dublin-Derry in Clones

I think Markievicz Park is closed for a new surface. Armagh v Galway was in Carrick the last time but probably needs a bigger venue.

Big game from McFaul today. Every time he got ball, he purposefully went forward at pace instead of side to side.

Are you completely deluded? Slowed everything down and killed out attack time after time.

Most senior teams seem to be using it now,a lot of games I go to both teams are using it.

How much the version 2 with the live streaming? Can the original one be upgraded?

Veo do introductory offers all the time but you are usually looking at about 1500 first time set up cost and around 700 a year after that I think.

They have just launched a two iPhone solution for about £500 with annual costs of around £350. I haven't had a chance to test it yet but should get my hands on it for pre season.

Onto version 3 at the minute. Version 1 is no longer supported and can't be upgraded. Version 2 isn't for sale any longer but is still supported.

I assume version 4 is on the way soon as I'm getting one to test later this week.

David do you know if there is anything going on in the background to meet whatever requirements the GAA have to allow VEO recording of underage games?

I work in the testing team so this may not be accurate but I don't know of anything specific to GAA.

However I am aware that a number of youth football leagues have raised this issue. The problem is that as far as the UK and the North is concerned, the position adopted by the leagues is simply not correct. In UK law there is no expectation of privacy whilst outdoors (with limited exceptions) therefore this isn't an issue. Last time I spoke with the higher ups they were taking legal advice (not from me) and were considering challenging the bans as amounting to unlawful restraint of trade/abuse of a dominant position.

I'll see if I can get any update this week as I have meeting on Thursday with some of the executives although they may be reluctant to tell me.

Thanks David. The information received by clubs from Croke Park was that it related to data protection/storage and can only be used for over 18s.

Most senior teams seem to be using it now,a lot of games I go to both teams are using it.

How much the version 2 with the live streaming? Can the original one be upgraded?

Veo do introductory offers all the time but you are usually looking at about 1500 first time set up cost and around 700 a year after that I think.

They have just launched a two iPhone solution for about £500 with annual costs of around £350. I haven't had a chance to test it yet but should get my hands on it for pre season.

Onto version 3 at the minute. Version 1 is no longer supported and can't be upgraded. Version 2 isn't for sale any longer but is still supported.

I assume version 4 is on the way soon as I'm getting one to test later this week.

David do you know if there is anything going on in the background to meet whatever requirements the GAA have to allow VEO recording of underage games?

Might go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved

The Kerr lad will be a big miss for Tyrone and even more so for his club.

Aussie rules calling?

Has signed a contract with West Ham. Very talented in that code too by all accounts.

Might go under the radar but that was some defensive effort. To only conceded the 1 point from a 20m free is unbelievable. Well done to all involved

The Kerr lad will be a big miss for Tyrone and even more so for his club.

What happened naming the team on a Thursday night to get the caht going about the match. Also why do we not list any clubs on social media posts of teams???

Is it not always named at the Club Tyrone members night before the first round of the championship?

Is the semi-final pairing decided by a draw from quarter finalist winners or are they already decided?

I read somewhere that Derry play the winners of Tyrone v Armagh.

Would be very surprised if a result was overturned due to a referee error.
I don't ever remember that happening in any circumstances at any level.

Not sure if there's been an error here or not. Spoke to someone who was at the game and he said the problem originated from a Maghera point which went on the scoreboard as an Omagh point. The ref noticed it and went to the sideline to get it corrected. Problem was it wasn't updated until the next Omagh point which was then awarded to Maghera which corrected the earlier error. Many in the crowd hadn't picked up on the earlier mistake. Should be a tasty replay.

From someone who was at the game myself, there 100% was an error.

Some comeback from Maghera in the Oisin McGrath final , they were 7 points down with 2 minutes of normal time and came back to draw ( no idea if there is extra time or a replay)

In fairness, they were beat by two, but the ref has got the score wrong. I'm not sure how it will work out. The game was videoed, and Maghera were aware they were beat.

Couldnt take the odd slap in a game himself

For all Joe's issues, and he has many, that was never one of them.

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

Is this the case throughout underage? Was at a game at the weekend and the opposition team left a forward standing behind the keeper on every kickout. Granted it was a tanking match so maybe the ref didn't care to much

That's allowed in the rules for all age groups including Senior. The only change from the rules applied at Senior is for U14 age group.

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

The rules I explained are the rules in Tyrone as I think that's where tbrick's lad plays. What do you mean by the 20m arc?

Neither referee is correct on this. You do not need to be outside the 40m arc for kickouts, nor does the ball need to travel outside the 40m arc before the ball can be touched by the team taking the kickout.

The ball must be kicked from the centre of the 20m line and travel forwards 13m. ie it cant be touched inside the 13 arc/D.

The only difference from the old rules is that players from either team may remain inside the 20m line but cannot touch the ball and must be 13m from the player taking the restart.

Before anyone jumps on this, these are U14 rules set by a particular county. Each county has the power to set their own for underage.

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

Which arc are you referring to? The 13m or 40m?