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No Center of excellence
The hurlers play in a shithole
Failed to grow the game between the canals
The smaller clubs have shit facilities while the bigger clubs get bigger and bigger!

This is the model everyone else has to aspire too?

Amazing how Dublin GAA keep pulling the wool over everyone's eyes.

Dublin 11/10 -6 that's a licence to print money.

Won by 6 away
10 at home
8 at home

Last three games. Dublin will shit on Mayo.

Classic?

Dublin didn't get out of 3rd gear. Cavan peaked emotionally against Donegal, impossible to repeat. With no emotional energy to draw upon Cavan never had a chance.

Dublin don't need emotional energy, they are the most intrinsically motivated  group of gaa players in history. They have created a high performance culture driven by the players for the players. Gavin, Sherlock, and now Farnell just tweak the tools. The challenges for a Dublin player are 1. Make the squad 2. Stay in the squad. 3. Make the team. 4. Stay in the team.

Winning All-Ireland's is not their motivation, that's a by-product of their mentality. They remind me of Tiger Woods, Roger Federer, The All Black's.....incredible culture really.

Sean and Bertie,.

Dublin weren't happy with 4 or 5 provincial titles and an All-Ireland every decade.

They actually failed at growing the game, instead they just activated the middle class burbs. Thing is middle class parents, studies have shown, provide better support, emotionally, mentally and financially to their children. They become invested. It means less kids drop away, stay involved longer, creates better players.

Unintended consequences and certainly not the brilliang planning line that keeps getting thrown out. Would love to see an economist examine their success 

   https://www.buzz.ie/gaa/inner-city-blues-dublins-battle-canals-352946?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=web

And once the middle classes got onto committees, everything gets better, business smarts to the fore.

The.middle classes saved Dublin GAA.

Us poor Leinster fellas were told to step up, volunteer harder. We said impossible, you don't understand, something needs to be done. You ignored our pleas, welcome to our pain. It doesn't go away.

Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!

Just like Jack O'Connor is volunteering for Kildare

Jack's volunteering is not good enough, he needs to volunteer harder. Disgraceful volunteering, he really needs to step up.

Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!

Tommy Moolick of Kildare .
Young enough I think probably doesn't see any point being from a Leinster County.

Moolick is around 27/28

Lads are entitled to use their time however they wish and more power to him but it's demonstrative of why Kildare get nowhere - inter-county level is too difficult, so they quit

Mate, you're a Dublin fanboy, you know f**k all about club football and even less about Kildare football. Enjoy your asterisk All Ireland's.

I'm so sick of hearing about Dublin's advantages and unfairness etc. As long as we go up Croker with gods honest intentions to kick seven shades out of them I'll be happy. Well turn them over sooner or later. If it takes longer so be it. We just have to keep making ourselves better and doing things right. And when the day comes and we beat them and hopefully go on to lift Sam it'll be some of the sweetest days of my life, adding that to memories of 87, 88, 91, 96 and 99.

So Juice. What do you think now ?

Any bigger names than mccaffery? Doctor

Teachers,

No Bank officials In Tyrone? How many doctors? We could dig all day but unless you're going to highlight an actual truth that Dub players get jobs from the county because they are Dublin players then it's a myth.

So either dig or don't

Is that you Donald?

This bizarre narrative being put forward that Dublin GAA volunteer better and volunteer harder is quite frankly an insult to every voluntary organisation in the country. It's disingenuous and quite frankly insulting.

That Dublin players work harder that their counterparts is also disingenuous and quite frankly insulting.

Dublin players as a collective travel less, have more more more spent on physical preparation, mental preparation, technical preparation, tactical preparation and lifestyle enhancements that any other county in the history of the GAA. To ignore the co-relationship between money spent and success is to ignore the history of professional sport over the last 150 years.

The sooner more players like John Connellan call out this charade for what it is the better.

Romantic GAA is long dead. It died the day the Government, The GAA and Dublin go into bed together and have been swapping spit ever since.

Dublin have had some amazing matches with Mayo and Kerry over the last 5/6 years. Some of the greatest games there's ever been. I've no idea why Meath and Kildare are not as good as Mayo and Kerry.

The reason is that Dublin has smothered the Leinster Champonship for 15 years now.  15 years! The one title Meath won in 2010 they could not even enjoy.

Kildare and Meath teams are constantly chopping and changing squads to try to get the right formula. Consistency is huge when building a team. You can also image many good players not committing. Why would they?

Exactly. Players won't commit. Been happening all across Leinster for years now. Lads chuck it in before they should be peaking.

Players will always commit to a set up which they think is serious

Mayo never have problems getting players to commit, there is a fierce hunger to win in the county and that's reflected in the senior set up they have, that's their culture

Ironically it's all those All-Ireland final defeats that have probably done more than anything to foster that culture and turn them into a pure, driven football county, every child in Mayo grows up dreaming of finally winning the All-Ireland for Mayo, they believe its achievable

Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels

I'd say if Jim Gavin or Malachy O'Rourke or Mickey Harte took over Meath, they wouldn't have too many problems getting players to commit

Davy Fitzgerald had no problems getting Wexford hurlers to commit

When Mick O'Dwyer took over Kildare, he energised the whole county

Jim McGuinness totally changed the culture in Donegal

More patronising shite. Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway just don't try hard enough. If only they wanted it as much as the Dubs! f**k me.

As for the other stuff - Harte often had his struggles to get players to commit to his own county.

Wexford hurlers are irrelevant. There is no monster in hurling.

O'Dwyer was in Kildare when the Dubs were mortal.

McGuinness got in with Donegal just in time. Before the machine was cranked to full power.

This post is exactly the type of subterfuge you usually go to town on in other topics.

But there was a monster in hurling - all the same things were said about them that has been said about Dublin - and other counties decided to take them down - they succeeded

Dublin were already a machine in 2014 - they were beaten

Only in 2018 did Dublin get a relatively clear run to the All-Ireland

In short, yes it is true - Meath, Down, Derry, Armagh, Cork etc. are not trying hard enough

Not trying hard enough means neglect of underage structures, neglect in terms of thinking, neglect in terms of persuasion of players, neglect in terms of attracting the business community, neglect in terms of administration, neglect of coaching

Sport is brutal - what Ray Boyne said last year is true - Dublin are one of a group of counties which do try harder - but also - nobody in Dublin doesn't acknowledge they have natural advantages  - of course they do

Dublin have natural advantages over Longford in the same way Germany have a natural advantage over Ireland in soccer - representative sport is inherently unfair

Since I wrote that post, Tipperary have won the Munster championship and Cavan have won Ulster

Neither was expected

Dublin try harder, God give me f**king strength. Bullshit of the highest order.

As a community, yes. There are huge areas of the country where gaelic games are third and sixth in terms of participation and the opposition have the facilities they don't in your county. We are generally not number 1 sport in a given area so have an additional set of problems your county doesn't have.

So getting kids out is harder and keeping them is harder. Getting punters to matches is harder as there is competition your county doesn't have.

Getting grants and funding is harder against bigger clubs in other sports.

Horseshit

Dublin have had some amazing matches with Mayo and Kerry over the last 5/6 years. Some of the greatest games there's ever been. I've no idea why Meath and Kildare are not as good as Mayo and Kerry.

The reason is that Dublin has smothered the Leinster Champonship for 15 years now.  15 years! The one title Meath won in 2010 they could not even enjoy.

Kildare and Meath teams are constantly chopping and changing squads to try to get the right formula. Consistency is huge when building a team. You can also image many good players not committing. Why would they?

Exactly. Players won't commit. Been happening all across Leinster for years now. Lads chuck it in before they should be peaking.

Players will always commit to a set up which they think is serious

Mayo never have problems getting players to commit, there is a fierce hunger to win in the county and that's reflected in the senior set up they have, that's their culture

Ironically it's all those All-Ireland final defeats that have probably done more than anything to foster that culture and turn them into a pure, driven football county, every child in Mayo grows up dreaming of finally winning the All-Ireland for Mayo, they believe its achievable

Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway got their All-Irelands and fell off the map, perhaps because those All-Irelands sated the whole culture in the counties and made them rest on their laurels

I'd say if Jim Gavin or Malachy O'Rourke or Mickey Harte took over Meath, they wouldn't have too many problems getting players to commit

Davy Fitzgerald had no problems getting Wexford hurlers to commit

When Mick O'Dwyer took over Kildare, he energised the whole county

Jim McGuinness totally changed the culture in Donegal

More patronising shite. Meath, Down, Armagh, Derry, Cork and Galway just don't try hard enough. If only they wanted it as much as the Dubs! f**k me.

As for the other stuff - Harte often had his struggles to get players to commit to his own county.

Wexford hurlers are irrelevant. There is no monster in hurling.

O'Dwyer was in Kildare when the Dubs were mortal.

McGuinness got in with Donegal just in time. Before the machine was cranked to full power.

This post is exactly the type of subterfuge you usually go to town on in other topics.

But there was a monster in hurling - all the same things were said about them that has been said about Dublin - and other counties decided to take them down - they succeeded

Dublin were already a machine in 2014 - they were beaten

Only in 2018 did Dublin get a relatively clear run to the All-Ireland

In short, yes it is true - Meath, Down, Derry, Armagh, Cork etc. are not trying hard enough

Not trying hard enough means neglect of underage structures, neglect in terms of thinking, neglect in terms of persuasion of players, neglect in terms of attracting the business community, neglect in terms of administration, neglect of coaching

Sport is brutal - what Ray Boyne said last year is true - Dublin are one of a group of counties which do try harder - but also - nobody in Dublin doesn't acknowledge they have natural advantages  - of course they do

Dublin have natural advantages over Longford in the same way Germany have a natural advantage over Ireland in soccer - representative sport is inherently unfair

Since I wrote that post, Tipperary have won the Munster championship and Cavan have won Ulster

Neither was expected

Dublin try harder, God give me f**king strength. Bullshit of the highest order.

Deegan, some homer.

THE Leinster Council have devised a plan to help maximise the massive earning power of the Dublin's footballers, while also helping to avoid a major ticket scramble ahead of the provincial semi-finals.

The Leinster SFC semi-finals were originally scheduled as a double-header in Croke Park on June 28.

Dublin demonstrated their extraordinary pulling power by attracting 75,250 to their opening championship clash with Meath last weekend, more than double the 32,204 crowd who travelled to the Munster football semi-final between Cork and Kerry in Killarney last Sunday.

And that huge opening crowd immediately raised fears about a stampede for tickets for the Leinster semi-finals, where either Kildare or Wexford are due to play Laois or Louth and Dublin face the winners of Wicklow/Westmeath.

With expectations particularly high among Lilywhite fans this summer, their involvement in a double-header would only have exacerbated the problem.

So, the Leinster Council have provisionally arranged that if Kildare qualify, their semi-final will be taken out of Croke Park and the Dublin semi-final will be left there as a stand-alone game.

Firstly I don't care where the Kildare game is played, if we beat Wexford and that's a big bloody if, so this is all just speculation but if we do beat Wexford then you risk the possiblity of Dublin been in the Leinster Final have playing their third game in a row there whereas there possible opponents (KE, LS, LH) will be playing their first game in Croker this season, no matter what anyone says that is giving Dublin an advantage. Anyhow my main point is that the Leinster Council could be missing a fantastic opportunity to promote their games, a 82K sell-out with a mad scramble for tickets is always great copy for the papers, lets be honest anyone who deserves a ticket will get one but ticket fever always gives a great buzz in a county as it generally the first thing people talk about when they meet up. The Leinster Council imho are just been greedy and that won't reflect well in Kildare, Laois or Louth if Kildare manage to beat Wexford.

When it all began..........