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I have to agree with Tony as the best.
Tohill was a great player for Derry, but I seem to remember his form definately falling away after Magilligan retired. So I think it is fair to say Tohill looked better than we was because of Magilligan doing a lot of the dirty work. I still think Tohill was one of the top players in the country but Scud gets my vote for consistency and hardiness. Mind you, he wasnt at his best in the Derry v Down game of 94.

I think Brolly also warrants a mention as being there or there abouts. I remember being at a corporate event where Jarlath Burns was speaking and he said that prior to an Armagh v Derry game there whole game plan was based on how to keep Brolly out of the game. This is in a team that included Tohill, scud etc. That in itself should be an indication of how feared he was amongst other teams and shows he was indeed a class act.

How many players does ricey "get at" during the course of a year?
How many of those players retalliate?
If you have players on your team fit to persistently get at players on other teams then it is hypocrytical to complain when someone does the same to you.
Hughes punched...so he had to go. End of story.

Please show me where I questioned Hughes' punishment. My issue was with Hinphey's theatrics, period.

Edit: Ricey dishes the verbal and fair physical, not the sly, sneaky physical like Hinphey (that's what I mean by 'get at'), and I've never seen Ricey drop like dark matter a la Hinphey.

fair and physical!!!
well you're half right.

[I have to admit I was at the 95 final but couldnt bring myself to support tyrone after the way the fans a players reacted to beating Derry earlier in the year. I had a feeling of justice being done in the final.However, my bitterness has subsided over the years and I also have to admit I was happy to see tyrone win their first all-ireland...and a bit jealous to see them win the second]

How many players does ricey "get at" during the course of a year?
How many of those players retalliate?
If you have players on your team fit to persistently get at players on other teams then it is hypocrytical to complain when someone does the same to you.
Hughes punched...so he had to go. End of story.

Not that your bitter  !!!

Actually not quite LB I stood on the canal end in 1993 waving the old oak leaf flag amongst all the cork uns.  It was the All Ireland final of 1995 that cemented my accrid bitterness against most things Derry with my mum and my wife and the odd Joe Brolly artcile being the only notable exceptions since.   

I have to admit I was at the 95 final but couldnt bring myself to support tyrone after the way the fans a players reacted to beating Derry earlier in the year. I had a feeling of justice being done in the final.
However, my bitterness has subsided over the years and I also have to admit I was happy to see tyrone win their first all-ireland...and a bit jealous to see them win the second 

          It must hurt tbrick !!   

Where do you get bitterness from Bensars? Are you trying to justify Hughes throwing a punch? I was merely pointing out that no matter what the circumstances, if you punch you must go. Trying to justify him punching by complaining about hinphy "getting at him" is hypocrytical especially when you have a player on your team that gets at everyone he marks.

As for hurting...if you read my post again you will see how it made me feel. Happy the first time, then a bit jealous the second time.
What part of that didn't you understand? Are all those drinkin seshuns you've been on at matches finally catching up on you?
Mind you one thing that does hurt is that if there had been a back door back in the 90's I'd say Derry could well have had another title...but then so might have Donegal and Down.

How many players does ricey "get at" during the course of a year?
How many of those players retalliate?
If you have players on your team fit to persistently get at players on other teams then it is hypocrytical to complain when someone does the same to you.
Hughes punched...so he had to go. End of story.

Who won that game? 

Unbelievable how Tyrones higher profile results in them being the common example.  Nobody is keen to mention notorious other examples, ie Liam Hinphey hitting Kevin Hughes last year and then when Hub responds Hinphey reaacted the Patrick Swayze shooting scene in the movie Ghost.

Ha ha - nice one!

Himphey did NOT hit Hughes! That happened in front of me...Kevin Hughes was stupid!!

Even the tyronnies I know say KEvin Hughes is a dirty player and that he deserved to get sent off against a much better Derry side.
This is the first time i have EVER heard anyone defend his style of play.[

Francie doesnt dive, but he's as dirty a player as I have seen (well maybe excluding Pete the Cheat...I like that).
I dont know why ref's dont send him off more often.

Tyrone are defo the worst for this diving craic. And for years the refs have been fooled but they have started to catch on now. Coincidence or not, Tyrone seem to be not doing as well.

I dont know if there are any rules against diving, but there should be a yellow card for it. Players dive not only to try for frees but are trying to get the other player booked/sent off. Jordan is the perfect example with the Marsden incident. Whether or not Marsden deserved to go there was no need for the play acting and if there was any doubt in the ref's mind b4 the performance, it maybe was enuff to sway him.

I'm no fan of Armagh either, but I dont think MArsden should have went that day.

He did soo!
I think Canavan defo was the first player to bring a lot of this diving into games.
How many times have we seen him holding the ball into his chest and flying through the air like a torpedo and landing face first on the grass, yet never dropping the ball. I know if someone hit me so hard, or hit me off balance to the point where I was falling down, I would find it difficult to not drop the ball, or indeed to fall with such "grace".
Always seemed like a good bit of play acting to me.
Then as his undoubted talent also meant he got plenty of scores, lots of other players tried to emulate his style of play.
Hence the now common site of all them tyronnies flying through the air in slow motion.

Nolan's an arse alright. He's what my da would call a "know all, know nothin" sorta boy.
Arrogant, Ignorant self obsessed twat!

Didn't see the show last night....thankfully.

I know Derry should be comfortable winners in this game but nothing surprises me any more when it comes to being a Derry supporter.
The number of times we have been beaten in games we should have easily won makes it difficult to be confident going into any game. Derry never seem to perform when up against a poor side but usually have PB to keep them in front. If he's not playing, anything could happen.

Is it true Joe Brolly is helping out in Antrim?

Being a Derry man I have to agree that I think we will once again flatter to decieve.
Especially without the 2 Bradleys and Kevin McGuckian.

I just think we still havent got the management right.

As for surprize package...dont see any of the "weaker" Ulster teams doing any better than a possible quarter final through the qualifiers.
I do think Cork are up and coming and with the U21 side winning that's bound to give the seniors a lift.

Is it true Joe Brolly is helping out with the Antrim senior team?
If so what do you Antrim boys think of it? Do you think he brings anything useful to the table?

Yip, I spotted 2 dives in this game... at that tage it was known as being cute.  one lead to a point from a free I believe. 

One direct score from a free earned by one of the "dives" but there were definately at least a couple of others which came about as a result of a free awarded for this. But fair play to him, if only we had someone as cute as wee james we could have had our second all-ireland on the trot.

Pity there hadnt been a back door back then....a Down v Derry replay that year would have been something else!

Best game I have ever seen without at a doubt...even if we did get beat. The difference between this game and the Armagh v Tyrone game is that this was pure attacking football from both sides at a breakneck pace with some of the most talented footballers that I have ever seen (note I say footballers and not athletes as I think SOME of todays top players are better described as athletes than pure talented footballers).

There was no emphasis put on defensive play and I think this particular game is a testament as to how the game is best played. Not that I'm against the tyrone/armagh style of play...if someone had told eamon coleman he would be guaranteed a win that day by blanket defense damn sure he would have done it!

As for the refereeing issue...I have only three gripes with sugrue that day. I think Carr should have gone for his "tackle" on McNicholl. The second one was how the down full forward charged the keeper on every kickout (can't remember his name, Adrian somthin). It didnt show it on the tv last night but I remember at the game by the time McCusker actually kicked the ball the full forward was almost on the spot. Not once blew up. So I dont blame the keeper for bad kickouts...I blame the ref for not keeping the full forward back the full distance. That might well have been enough to change the outcome of the game. But we will never know. the third was wee james...how many times did he get away with grabbing karl diamonds arm and falling down to get the free? He was superb that day in all fairness to him.

In all fairness, having watched it again, I think Down probably did deserve to win that day. The supply of ball into Linden was better than the supply Brolly got and the Down half forward line was immense where ours was just mediocre. Burns played better than I remembered but he still ran across the field too much. McCormick started well then disappeared. And McNicholl seemed to just want the ball to himself all day. I agree with the coments made on switching mckeever to mark linden, but Linden would still have scored most of what he got anyway.

I also think Tohill and McGilligan played well that day. I thought Derry midfield edged it slightly. It was just that the Down half forward line was so good.

I have no problem supporting the Tyronies tbrick.

I know they have some bad elements within their support - but maybe if we had enough of a following , we'd have some bad ones too

RRBF - I'd keep it quiet about the draperstown thing...
Just keep shaving between yer toes and say nothing...

Here now whats wrong with draperstown? It's where I once hailed from and one day hope to return!

its got a good cattle mart ! 

And what about the Sheep Sales? And Burns' Sale?

Sorry but I cannot continue to 'big up' Draperstown !
Its not exactly a big GAA place is it !

Now now no call for that! We have about 300 club members I'll have you know!
We have some of the most impressive underage teams of recent times in all codes, hurling, football, camogie and ladies football.
We even beat the mighty tones in the minor football final a year or two ago.
Our senior hurlers and footballers are a bit disappointing mind you....but sure you cant be good at everything