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#1
General discussion / Re: Euro 2024
Today at 12:42:58 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on June 21, 2024, 10:10:57 PMIt doesn't really matter whether the keeper was never getting to the ball. His ability to try was impeded by an offside player.  Cut and dry, imo. Not sure what took VAR so long to agree with the on-field ruling.

100% correct.

I called it in realtime - whimsically because let's be honest realtime is deceptive - but once the linesman put up his flag they should have just got on with it.

English referees just don't seem able to to trust their judgement, or their co-official's judgement.
#2
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
Today at 12:26:45 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on Today at 12:20:14 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on Today at 12:12:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2024, 11:43:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 21, 2024, 06:49:35 PMI've said it before and I'll say it forever.

When youngsters grow up dreaming about playing in Croke Park, that dream will ALWAYS be based a full house.

The notion peddled around the GAA that playing in Croke in itself is a reward for all the hours put in, is pure and utter romantic drivel.

These games have no business being in Croke. It's a charade.

Theres a good crowd of lads not too far from who'd tell you they'd the best experience of their lives in a fairly empty Croker not so long ago so tbh your view is ridiculous.

You're confusing the occasion with the stadium.

The former is a career defining moment. The latter is irrelevant.
They'll always remember it being in Croker. Why would you deny that to lads? Most of them will never get the chance to play in it

I do wonder.

Honestly.

Winning a championship has nothing to do with the venue.

Getting to play at Croke Park is not the goal.

Winning an all Ireland is the goal.



#3
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
Today at 12:24:35 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 21, 2024, 08:59:43 PMFrom what I've picked up, Antrim people are more inclined to attend this game because it is in Croke Park, rather than had it been fixed for Corrigan Park.

Down people are used to, or at least remember, watching their county at Croke Park on the biggest days and I can understand how these games can drift into the meaningless, unnecessary for them.

It's not like that for counties like Antrim. We go to Croke Park often but usually to watch other counties. This doesn't happen often. Unlike Down, we don't really expect to ever get the big day out in Croke Park. So, it means something.

This is entirely a fair point.

But I would temper it with this.

In my adult life (turned 18 in 1995) Down have never won an Ulster title (let alone an AI). Yet we've been to Croke around 15 times during those 30 years. D1 finals, D2 finals, D3 final. AI last 12, 8, semi, final. Tailtean.

We've got there all those times yet we've just been average throughout. Just bang average. That's not cruel or condescending, it's the reality of where we are, where we have been for a long time.

The only games that were enjoyable in Croke during that time were in the AI run in 2010. (Mostly) full houses and jeopardy football.

Every other appearance has just been dull. Teams playing within themselves, not really sure if it's important.

Dull.

I can't go to Dublin anymore to be dulled.

Put most of those games in the right stadium - eg Armagh - and the atmosphere would have made it less dull. Might even have made it enjoyable.

But f**k going to Dublin for a "day out" to lose the will for football.

#4
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
Today at 12:12:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 21, 2024, 11:43:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 21, 2024, 06:49:35 PMI've said it before and I'll say it forever.

When youngsters grow up dreaming about playing in Croke Park, that dream will ALWAYS be based a full house.

The notion peddled around the GAA that playing in Croke in itself is a reward for all the hours put in, is pure and utter romantic drivel.

These games have no business being in Croke. It's a charade.

Theres a good crowd of lads not too far from who'd tell you they'd the best experience of their lives in a fairly empty Croker not so long ago so tbh your view is ridiculous.

You're confusing the occasion with the stadium.

The former is a career defining moment. The latter is irrelevant.
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
June 21, 2024, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 21, 2024, 08:04:58 PMThe 2 grouches dont want the little Counties or the Club players playing in Croke Park.
They'll want Santy abolished next.

Such a needy individual you are.

This has nothing do with little counties.

Nobody should play in empty stadia. That very much includes Dublin.

Genuine supporters should not have the hassle of going to Dublin to sit in an empty , soulless stadium.

Tailteann semis should be a straight up coin toss for home advantage.

Anything else is daft.


#6
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
June 21, 2024, 07:12:27 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2024, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 21, 2024, 06:49:35 PMI've said it before and I'll say it forever.

When youngsters grow up dreaming about playing in Croke Park, that dream will ALWAYS be based a full house.

The notion peddled around the GAA that playing in Croke in itself is a reward for all the hours put in, is pure and utter romantic drivel.

These games have no business being in Croke. It's a charade.


Do they? Been lucky to be with club in Croke park for club finals with no numbers... best days of my club memories

Romantic drivel? Croke is full house mainly twice a year. So every game bar the finals should be played elsewhere?

I honestly doubt the memories of those days would have been any different had those finals been played in a full house at say Armagh.

Croke Park isn't the occasion. The game is the occasion.

Hogan Cups won in Croke, I guarantee, resonate no more with the winners, than those won on county grounds.

——-

If demand for a game needs a stadium of +40k then Croke should be an option.

If not, then go somewhere else.
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024
June 21, 2024, 06:49:35 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it forever.

When youngsters grow up dreaming about playing in Croke Park, that dream will ALWAYS be based a full house.

The notion peddled around the GAA that playing in Croke in itself is a reward for all the hours put in, is pure and utter romantic drivel.

These games have no business being in Croke. It's a charade.
#8
General discussion / Re: Great smells
June 20, 2024, 08:01:23 PM
I worked in pubs mostly growing up.

I still miss the sensory overload delivered by a union of stale smoke and pine detergent.

#9
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
June 17, 2024, 10:52:33 PM
I'd have no interest in double headers myself. Not bothered about the ticket price, but back-to-back games of football  is a modern day form of flagellation.
#10
General discussion / Re: Euro 2024
June 17, 2024, 08:52:14 AM
England are effectively playing with no left side, and will be found out plus some when they meet a balanced side.

Southgate has been there a decade or so. This is entirely on him.
#11
General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
June 16, 2024, 11:53:09 PM
Rory will come out of this okay.

He's nearly always in contention. He's versatile enough to do regardless of the course or conditions.

It won't be long til it falls his way.

He did bottle it tonight. The earlier missed putt rather than the latter one, which was tougher.

But all 180 odd players bottled somewhere in Pinehurst this week, including the winner.

What a golf course.
#12
General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
June 16, 2024, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 16, 2024, 11:33:37 PMWhy do they take driver off the 18 ?

Because they're the best drivers in the world. They practice and hit drivers for fun.

Why go to a 3 wood?
#13
General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
June 16, 2024, 11:12:21 PM
#14
Ref changed his jersey at halftime lol
#15
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 16, 2024, 04:15:09 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 16, 2024, 04:14:20 PMSome block by Fento

Superb

Are you allowed to block with your body?

Genuinely curious.

I'd have ruled Fenton's intervention closer to a foot block than a block ie it's dangerous to the kicker. But I do have a liberal interpretation of GAA rules!