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Substandard

I can't see how referees at club level will be able to manage all changes- picture the disputes over 1 or 2 point kicks, and whether one of 3 up strays into his own half to collect a ball?  From the start, I was thinking 2 refs, one in each half, and given how hard it is to source refs already, that would be a non-runner.
It will make the game look OK at county level, but there's a risk of some serious maulings.  I'd worry about club level, though.  It's a lot happening in one swoop.

Rossfan

Ongoing review during year?
God help Refs in those games with no neutral umpires or linesmen and the ref mightn't be the fittest either..   
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

twohands!!!

Great news.

Will cut out so much pointless dirty cyncical pulling and dragging and time-wasting and reward the players with skill.

The Trap

What's this new game called?

Far too much at once and it won't be the magic formula that the media think.

I predict a lot of chaos.

And also an even bigger struggle to get and maintain refs.

pbat

I can see 6-8 games into club leagues a county board or two abandoning the new rules as there will be carnage, referees assaulted, games not finished, refs quitting and fixtures not fulfilled.

I'm not opposed to changes as some are definitely needed, but its to much to quick with the implications at club levels not fully explored. 

thewobbler

The 2 point line cannot last long. It will present too much opportunity for absolute murder of officials.

general_lee

Quote from: Substandard on November 30, 2024, 01:08:24 PMI can't see how referees at club level will be able to manage all changes- picture the disputes over 1 or 2 point kicks, and whether one of 3 up strays into his own half to collect a ball?  From the start, I was thinking 2 refs, one in each half, and given how hard it is to source refs already, that would be a non-runner.
It will make the game look OK at county level, but there's a risk of some serious maulings.  I'd worry about club level, though.  It's a lot happening in one swoop.
Absolutely. I'm sure club refs can't wait for the new season.

Throw It Up Ref

Quote from: general_lee on November 30, 2024, 03:31:58 PM
Quote from: Substandard on November 30, 2024, 01:08:24 PMI can't see how referees at club level will be able to manage all changes- picture the disputes over 1 or 2 point kicks, and whether one of 3 up strays into his own half to collect a ball?  From the start, I was thinking 2 refs, one in each half, and given how hard it is to source refs already, that would be a non-runner.
It will make the game look OK at county level, but there's a risk of some serious maulings.  I'd worry about club level, though.  It's a lot happening in one swoop.
Absolutely. I'm sure club refs can't wait for the new season.

The refs will be delighted as they've been given the tools to defend themselves. If anyone other than the two team captains open their mouths refs will be moving the ball 50m or handing out 13m frees.

thewobbler

Quote from: Throw It Up Ref on November 30, 2024, 03:45:13 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 30, 2024, 03:31:58 PM
Quote from: Substandard on November 30, 2024, 01:08:24 PMI can't see how referees at club level will be able to manage all changes- picture the disputes over 1 or 2 point kicks, and whether one of 3 up strays into his own half to collect a ball?  From the start, I was thinking 2 refs, one in each half, and given how hard it is to source refs already, that would be a non-runner.
It will make the game look OK at county level, but there's a risk of some serious maulings.  I'd worry about club level, though.  It's a lot happening in one swoop.
Absolutely. I'm sure club refs can't wait for the new season.

The refs will be delighted as they've been given the tools to defend themselves. If anyone other than the two team captains open their mouths refs will be moving the ball 50m or handing out 13m frees.

That will help, no doubt.

But it won't stop the mouthpieces in the crowd, and 40 yards from the action, making sure the referee is intimidated over every decision.

Brendan

The fools, can't believe it's all going through

tintin25

Can see plenty of people losing interest in Gaelic Football following the introduction of these new rules

The Trap

I enjoy watching ireland play rugby and soccer and normally just watch it with a patriotic head on me.
This last 2 months I watched it more critically to see what the game is like compared to gaelic football, in light of these new rules.
Both the Ireland rugby and soccer team have very poor basic skills and the games are low in entertainment. Only thing that keeps them going are the big crowds in good stadiums, enthusiastic media and the fact that they are Irish. And then when you go to club soccer and rugby you are in to real torture!
But gaelic football is so busy at the top trying to become some sort of skysports game (all for money) that they are going to try and utterly change it. Yes one or two changes could have been made but they didn't have to turn it into aussie footie.
The only sport better in Ireland is a good game of hurling.
But give me a Dublin v Mayo game from the last decade over anything.

Truthsayer

Quote from: tintin25 on November 30, 2024, 04:18:18 PMCan see plenty of people losing interest in Gaelic Football following the introduction of these new rules
And others regaining interest in it.. an endurance test in recent years.

bennydorano

#568
The past few years I've went to more schools, club and county football than I ever did previously. Schools football is the worst spectacle by a long way (when it really shouldn't be), other than that I didn't think there was too much wrong with the game. I've never been sure who we're trying to please with constant tinkering, who the changes are for.

I'd confidently predict there'll be as many unwatchable games under the new rules as there currently are, but I'll still be there all being well. The same gobshites who yap about everything will still be yapping this time next year as well.

I also think it's a mistake to bring it into club football straight away as well, Have club refs even been consulted?  We haven't resolved U15/17/19 or 20  v U16/U18/U21 bolloxology ffs. More problems on top of problems.

Repent at our leisure I suppose.

Truthsayer

Quote from: bennydorano on November 30, 2024, 04:33:37 PMThe past few   went to more schools, club and county football than I ever did previously. Schools football is the worst spectacle by a long way, other than that I didn't think there was too much wrong with the game. I've never been sure who we're trying to please with constant tinkering, who the changes are for.

I'd confidently predict there'll be as many unwatchable games under the new rules as there currently are, but I'll still be there all being well. The same gobshites who yap about everything will still be yapping this time next year as well.

I also think it's a mistake to bring into club football straight away as well, we haven't resolved U15/17/19 or 20  v U16/U18/U21 bolloxology ffs. More problems on top of problems.

Repent at our leisure I suppose.
Good argument until you describe people who think the game needs changing as'gobshites'... as one of those I have never seen the game in a worse state club and county... sideways sideways backways.. no risk all stats. Is great to see these changes.
Anyone doesn't want change doesn't care about thd game...