Westminster General Election 2024

[imtommygunn]

I wouldn't agree with that at all. SF stood aside in one place so SDLP should stand aside in 3... I am not sure how that stacks up?

I would agree on Eastwood's arrogance but I don't think the SDLP should stand aside just because you don't like it...

[marty34]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

But you said in another thread no one cares about Westminster so what difference does it make if SF get one more MP there?

And for what its worth I agree with you regarding Westminster is an irrelevance over here in the grand scheme of things. MLA and local council elections are far more important in my eyes.

Fair point. I stand over that re: Westminister.

What I'm saying SDLP didn't stand aside anywhere.

[Brendan]

Going by the age profile of SFs Mps now they're no longer using it as a retirement home, Paul Maskey must be the oldest now, still young by political standards, and a couple of them are fairly big hitters in the party

[marty34]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

I don't think it's right. If SDLP stepped aside, TUV and UUP could follow. Their combined vote still exceeded Hunter by a few thousand. It's getting close and could go to SF next election. It's debatable  whether it's easier won with a pact or a every party for themselves.

The TUV did step aside in more than one area. Did they stand in UB or FST?

SDLP stood in FST where a combined unionist candidate only got beat by 4 and 58 votes etc. over this past few campaigns.

[Armagh18]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

Could you explain why you think this? (I'm not criticising your opinion - I'm interested in how you formed it.)

I don't think it's right. If SDLP stepped aside, TUV and UUP could follow. Their combined vote still exceeded Hunter by a few thousand. It's getting close and could go to SF next election. It's debatable  whether it's easier won with a pact or a every party for themselves.

The TUV did step aside in more than one area. Did they stand in UB or FST?

SDLP stood in FST where a combined unionist candidate only got beat by 4 and 58 votes etc. over this past few campaigns.

Madness SDLP standing in FST. Not sure what they thought they'd gain there.

But no complaints elsewhere

[gallsman]

They've stood in FST in every election since the Anti H-Block elections. Madness would be changing things to satisfy a few twats on the internet who think engaging in democracy is "letting down nationalists".

[RedHand88]

You can't reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount either. Yous are as bad as Bryson.

[RedHand88]

You can't reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount either. Yous are as bad as Bryson.

Don't know if that's reply to me.. maybe not... but unfortunately it is for the most part a sectarian headcount and pacts tend to compound that

Nah moreau the posts above you criticising the SDLP.

[RedHand88]

We've seen unionist pacts in North Belfast, mid ulster and Fermanagh/ South Tyrone which have failed repeatedly, they're going to need pacts for Upper Bann and East Derry next time...

SDLP have let the nationalist people down badly.

Eastwood is a clown.

Imagine Campbell getting the boot in East Derry.

TBF if SDLP didn't stand maybe TUV/UUP wouldnt and theyve newr 8k between them.

If SF had got Aontu's 1k they'd have won it.

100% on your first 2 sentences though!

But those 1k people had the chance to vote SF and didn't. They voted against them, most likely on a pro life ticket.
You can't assume any these people row in behind SF just because they are nationalists.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

It's so frustrating that Campbell escapes by a few votes. He won't stand next time so we will never have the satisfaction of seeing him get the boot. It's even crazier to think he wins by less than 200 votes yet over 1000 nationalists gave brolly a vote. I don't know if any of you caught her interview on TalkBack last week but it was atrocious, embarrassingly bad

[marty34]

You can't reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount either. Yous are as bad as Bryson.

Here we go...it's sectarian that SF stand aside for progressive candiates in LV, EB and SB & MD etc? Is it?

No one mentioned religion...until a few people above mentioned it. Whay are they bringing religion into it?

Strange - shows up more about them than me. 

[johnnycool]

You can't reduce the thing to a sectarian headcount either. Yous are as bad as Bryson.

If only there were actual policies to debate!


Bit of a strange one across the water, Labour vote really didn't go up that much (1.6%) from the Corbyn era and re-enforces my point that Labour didn't win this, the Tory's lost it in a big way.

Aside from that Farage, 50p Lee and Allister in Parliament is some mess for everyone.

[gallsman]

I wouldn't agree with that at all. SF stood aside in one place so SDLP should stand aside in 3... I am not sure how that stacks up?

McDonnell won South Belfast twice with a SF candidate running against him and Hanna won last time out with a 16k+ majority over Pengelly and this time with 12k over Alliance. She'd still win it handily enough even if SF stood.

[RedHand88]

It's so frustrating that Campbell escapes by a few votes. He won't stand next time so we will never have the satisfaction of seeing him get the boot. It's even crazier to think he wins by less than 200 votes yet over 1000 nationalists gave brolly a vote. I don't know if any of you caught her interview on TalkBack last week but it was atrocious, embarrassingly bad

There are alot of pro life nationalists about. They were ignored by SF and it has cost them an 8th seat.

[marty34]

So the SDLP don't do pacts?

Answer me this. 

Did the SDLP stand aside in NB at the last WM election?