Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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Rossfan

Examiner reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.
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weareros

Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

weareros

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It would. The Cork media talking up its 45,000 capacity shows how little they know about those UEFA requirements.

armaghniac

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.
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JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

clonadmad

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Switch the €50m promised by the Irish government from Casement to Cork

That will sort that

Same number of games stay on the Island

Irish economy benefits even more

Unionists get a kick in the nuts

Casement still gets build for GAA

I presume if NI won't be hosting a game they can hardly  expect to qualify for the competition via the hosts route ?

twohands!!!

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Really can't see UEFA or the Irish government being willing to risk going with Pairc Ui Chaoimh given the situation with Casement and Pairc ui Chaoimh's recent performance in terms of the stadium refurbishment, given the amount of work that PuC would require.

Far less risky for UEFA to go with the stadiums in the UK that are far more suited in terms of the seating requirements and the media and hospitality requirements.

Also given Cork GAA's recent history if Puc did manage to be chosen I wouldn't be surprised if the county board somehow managed to end up losing money on this.

Gallybander

Quote from: clonadmad on July 11, 2024, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Switch the €50m promised by the Irish government from Casement to Cork

That will sort that

Same number of games stay on the Island

Irish economy benefits even more

Unionists get a kick in the nuts

Casement still gets build for GAA

I presume if NI won't be hosting a game they can hardly  expect to qualify for the competition via the hosts route ?
Give Cork all that money, just so they can host a couple of soccer matches?

tiempo

Quote from: clonadmad on July 11, 2024, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Switch the €50m promised by the Irish government from Casement to Cork

That will sort that

Same number of games stay on the Island

Irish economy benefits even more

Unionists get a kick in the nuts

Casement still gets build for GAA

I presume if NI won't be hosting a game they can hardly  expect to qualify for the competition via the hosts route ?

I would gladly watch England win the Euros on Sunday with a backs to the wall fluke 1-0 with a goal from Bellinghams arse in the 93rd minute for NI to miss out on the next Euros in exchange

And you know if Casement doesn't host a Euros game and they don't qualify political Unionism will say - we told you so, we wos right not to build her

Circling the plughole these people, they'll soon disappear

general_lee

Quote from: tiempo on July 12, 2024, 09:46:40 AMCircling the plughole these people, they'll soon disappear
They're like a shite that won't flush.

clonadmad

Quote from: Gallybander on July 11, 2024, 11:39:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 11, 2024, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Switch the €50m promised by the Irish government from Casement to Cork

That will sort that

Same number of games stay on the Island

Irish economy benefits even more

Unionists get a kick in the nuts

Casement still gets build for GAA

I presume if NI won't be hosting a game they can hardly  expect to qualify for the competition via the hosts route ?
Give Cork all that money, just so they can host a couple of soccer matches?

Aren't We in the South doing similar with Belfast giving them the €50m so that they can host a few soccer matches

If NI can't get its act together with casement for the Euro's as looks ever more likely

Wouldn't we be better off spending that €50m allocated to the Euros for Casement in Cork and keeping the same amount of games on the Island ?

The Cork Economy and Infrastructure around it benefits and the Gaa benefits

The more likely scenario is that those games go to GB and the €50m for Casement is taken off the table because it is dependent on the Euro games being held there

armaghniac

Quote from: clonadmad on July 12, 2024, 11:36:12 AM
Quote from: Gallybander on July 11, 2024, 11:39:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 11, 2024, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Switch the €50m promised by the Irish government from Casement to Cork

That will sort that

Same number of games stay on the Island

Irish economy benefits even more

Unionists get a kick in the nuts

Casement still gets build for GAA

I presume if NI won't be hosting a game they can hardly  expect to qualify for the competition via the hosts route ?
Give Cork all that money, just so they can host a couple of soccer matches?

Aren't We in the South doing similar with Belfast giving them the €50m so that they can host a few soccer matches

If NI can't get its act together with casement for the Euro's as looks ever more likely

Wouldn't we be better off spending that €50m allocated to the Euros for Casement in Cork and keeping the same amount of games on the Island ?

The Cork Economy and Infrastructure around it benefits and the Gaa benefits

The more likely scenario is that those games go to GB and the €50m for Casement is taken off the table because it is dependent on the Euro games being held there

The money for Casement is for a stadium that does not exist. It is fine to say send the Euros elsewhere, but how will Casement be built otherwise, unless you just want a handy wee ground for Antrim?
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clonadmad

Quote from: armaghniac on July 12, 2024, 11:43:07 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 12, 2024, 11:36:12 AM
Quote from: Gallybander on July 11, 2024, 11:39:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 11, 2024, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2024, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on July 11, 2024, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: weareros on July 11, 2024, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2024, 12:45:45 PMExaminer reporting that UEFA accepts Casement won't be ready for Euro soccer tournament and that Cork Co Board are seeking to have De Páirc given the Casement slot.

Would be a great location with ferry and airport to continental Europe. However, it only has a seating capacity of 21,000 and UEFA requires 30,000 plus. They would need to show they could install temporary seating to meet the needs. At this stage I'd say UEFA would opt for sure bet soccer stadia than taking any more chances.

Would it not need serious money thrown at it to get to UEFA standard. Isn't that the main reason casements costs soared. The pairc would need at least tens of millions

It's on a big site though, I don't know if temporary buildings are allowed, you could have a lot of corporate facilities on the site.

The corporate and media requirements for the euros are ridiculous but for the pairc to be a serious option realistically you are looking at 2 new stands behind the goals

Switch the €50m promised by the Irish government from Casement to Cork

That will sort that

Same number of games stay on the Island

Irish economy benefits even more

Unionists get a kick in the nuts

Casement still gets build for GAA

I presume if NI won't be hosting a game they can hardly  expect to qualify for the competition via the hosts route ?
Give Cork all that money, just so they can host a couple of soccer matches?

Aren't We in the South doing similar with Belfast giving them the €50m so that they can host a few soccer matches

If NI can't get its act together with casement for the Euro's as looks ever more likely

Wouldn't we be better off spending that €50m allocated to the Euros for Casement in Cork and keeping the same amount of games on the Island ?

The Cork Economy and Infrastructure around it benefits and the Gaa benefits

The more likely scenario is that those games go to GB and the €50m for Casement is taken off the table because it is dependent on the Euro games being held there

The money for Casement is for a stadium that does not exist. It is fine to say send the Euros elsewhere, but how will Casement be built otherwise, unless you just want a handy wee ground for Antrim?

The €50m from the Irish Government is dependent on Casement getting the Euro's

If that doesn't happen,it's off the table

Who would be wrong with a fit for purpose GAA speced stadium as many are on here saying ?

Full covered

30k capacity

Costing £80-120m

Armagh18

Why should the 50m be dependent on the Euros?

If Euros arent happening then 30k fully covered would be perfect.