Armagh v Cavan Sun 8th June

[illdecide]

I think we will get a good price on Armagh for this game and we are not near as bad as our league form suggests, I think we will beat Cavan by 2-3 Pt's in this game and dish out some revenge...whats your thoughts

[yellowcard]

I think we will get a good price on Armagh for this game and we are not near as bad as our league form suggests, I think we will beat Cavan by 2-3 Pt's in this game and dish out some revenge...whats your thoughts

We are a division 3 team next year who have regressed in recent years with very little fresh talent coming through. Cavan are a division 2 team next year who have had an abundance of fresh talent coming through having won 4 in a row U21 UC. Yes, we are at home but with Armagh having a recent history of failing to cope with a defensive team, I can't see us winning this one. Cavan to win this in a low scoring encounter.   

[Walter Cronc]

Who'll pick up Mackey this year? He caused you's serious bother last year!

[rodney trotter]

Mackey could actually be doubtful, got a knock last weekend against Galway in a challenge game.

[yellowcard]

Its anyones guess who will pick up Mackey, we have not had a settled side all league particularly in defence. I'd expect the half back line to be Aaron Kernan, Ciaran McKeever and Mark Shields with Shields possibly picking up Mackey but thats guess work at the minute. Thats presuming all 3 are fit, which is doubtful as well. Dunne and Keating and the exposure of the full back line were actually a bigger issue last year. That was more down to the naive tactics and system deployed than individual players getting destroyed. I wouldn't expect us to make the same mistake again tactically but there is a certain lack of belief in the county team at the minute. 

[regal]

It is difficult to know what sort of team Armagh will line out against Cavan due to injuries during the league but I will have a guess anyway....

1 - McEvoy
2 - Morgan (picking up Dunn)
3 - Toner
4 - Murray
5 - Shields
6 - McKeever
7 - AMallon (picking up Mackey)
8 - Harold
9 - ERafferty
10 - CRafferty
11 - Dyas
12 - TKernan
13 - Clarke
14 - Campbell
15 - Forker

I'm presuming Donaghy, BMallon and AKernan will miss out because of injury. AForker injured. Grugan and Moriarty will probaly be pushing for places.

Cavan should be winning this if they have progressed from last year. I would imagine the odds will be something like Armagh 8/13 and Cavan 13/8.

[yellowcard]

It is difficult to know what sort of team Armagh will line out against Cavan due to injuries during the league but I will have a guess anyway....

1 - McEvoy
2 - Morgan (picking up Dunn)
3 - Toner
4 - Murray
5 - Shields
6 - McKeever
7 - AMallon (picking up Mackey)
8 - Harold
9 - ERafferty
10 - CRafferty
11 - Dyas
12 - TKernan
13 - Clarke
14 - Campbell
15 - Forker

I'm presuming Donaghy, BMallon and AKernan will miss out because of injury. AForker injured. Grugan and Moriarty will probaly be pushing for places.

Cavan should be winning this if they have progressed from last year. I would imagine the odds will be something like Armagh 8/13 and Cavan 13/8.

Thats not too far off what I'd expect, certainly from midfield up I'd agree with. The defence is the main problem, and I would be very surprised if Toner is played at full back. Cavan will probably play with 2 inside forwards so its more likely that we have 2 specialist man markers on Keating and Dunne. I'd choose Mallon & Morgan for those roles. 

[BennyCake]

Cavan will beat us by 2 or 3 points. They have a method of playing which is hard to break down, and been playing that way for over a year. We are a shambles.

[illdecide]

I think we will get a good price on Armagh for this game and we are not near as bad as our league form suggests, I think we will beat Cavan by 2-3 Pt's in this game and dish out some revenge...whats your thoughts

We are a division 3 team next year who have regressed in recent years with very little fresh talent coming through. Cavan are a division 2 team next year who have had an abundance of fresh talent coming through having won 4 in a row U21 UC. Yes, we are at home but with Armagh having a recent history of failing to cope with a defensive team, I can't see us winning this one. Cavan to win this in a low scoring encounter.

I disagree...We had bad luck in games and with injuries to key players, i think we'd have been comfortable in the Div otherwise. We def owe them one and now a few players are back full training we will be a lot stronger for June 8th.

This could go down to tactics from the sideline and as someone mentioned i hope we've learned from last year, the worrying thing for me during the Donegal game was McGeeney stood 30m away from Grimley almost the whole match and when the final whistle went McGeeney walked straight past Grimley and up the tunnel whilst Grimely walked onto the pitch to the players!!! why was there little to none consultation between the two during the game? and why did McGeeney walk straight up the tunnel after the game?.

Anyway my team for Cavan will be...

1 - McEvoy
2 - Morgan
3 - Donaghy
4 - A Mallon
5 - Shields
6 - McKeever
7 - Murray (possibly Finn Mo...i know he fouls a lot but could do a stopping job out the field)
8 - Harold
9 - E Rafferty
10 - C Rafferty
11 - Dyas
12 - T Kernan
13 - Clarke
14 - Campbell
15 - McParland

Bench...which is stronger than it normally is

Finn Mo
Vernon
Forker
A Kernan (Possibly if fit)
McVerry
Tasker
McCooey

[rodney trotter]

Morgan is a tight corner back, missed the Cavan game last year I think . Did he play in any of the League this year? Andy Mallon back this year after a year out, 2 decent corner backs

[yellowcard]

Morgan is a tight corner back, missed the Cavan game last year I think . Did he play in any of the League this year? Andy Mallon back this year after a year out, 2 decent corner backs

Morgan suffered injuries in a bad car accident last year and hasw only recently returned to playing club football. If he is back to full fitness he is the best man marker on the squad at present I'd say.

[ardchieftain]

Illdecide, McParland isn't on the panel. Looks like Aaron will miss this game. Great news that Morgan and Mckeever are back playing and if Donaghy is fit then we have the strongest Armagh defence in a very long time.

Morgan - Donaghy - Murray
Shields - McKeever - Mallon

it has to be Harold and Ethan in the middle.

T.Kernan -  Dyas - C.Rafferty
Jamie - Campbell - An other

Hard to know who will start in the corner, noone has really made the jersey their own during the league

It is imperative that a plan to beat the blanket is put in place. It will be a tight game and i'd be hopeful rather than optimistic of a positive result.

[Itchy]

I think we will get a good price on Armagh for this game and we are not near as bad as our league form suggests, I think we will beat Cavan by 2-3 Pt's in this game and dish out some revenge...whats your thoughts

We are a division 3 team next year who have regressed in recent years with very little fresh talent coming through. Cavan are a division 2 team next year who have had an abundance of fresh talent coming through having won 4 in a row U21 UC. Yes, we are at home but with Armagh having a recent history of failing to cope with a defensive team, I can't see us winning this one. Cavan to win this in a low scoring encounter.

I disagree...We had bad luck in games and with injuries to key players, i think we'd have been comfortable in the Div otherwise. We def owe them one and now a few players are back full training we will be a lot stronger for June 8th.

This could go down to tactics from the sideline and as someone mentioned i hope we've learned from last year, the worrying thing for me during the Donegal game was McGeeney stood 30m away from Grimley almost the whole match and when the final whistle went McGeeney walked straight past Grimley and up the tunnel whilst Grimely walked onto the pitch to the players!!! why was there little to none consultation between the two during the game? and why did McGeeney walk straight up the tunnel after the game?.

Anyway my team for Cavan will be...

1 - McEvoy
2 - Morgan
3 - Donaghy
4 - A Mallon
5 - Shields
6 - McKeever
7 - Murray (possibly Finn Mo...i know he fouls a lot but could do a stopping job out the field)
8 - Harold
9 - E Rafferty
10 - C Rafferty
11 - Dyas
12 - T Kernan
13 - Clarke
14 - Campbell
15 - McParland

Bench...which is stronger than it normally is

Finn Mo
Vernon
Forker
A Kernan (Possibly if fit)
McVerry
Tasker
McCooey

Because McGeeney is a clown and Grimley is an even bigger clown?

[illdecide]

Illdecide, McParland isn't on the panel. Looks like Aaron will miss this game. Great news that Morgan and Mckeever are back playing and if Donaghy is fit then we have the strongest Armagh defence in a very long time.

Morgan - Donaghy - Murray
Shields - McKeever - Mallon

it has to be Harold and Ethan in the middle.

T.Kernan -  Dyas - C.Rafferty
Jamie - Campbell - An other

Hard to know who will start in the corner, noone has really made the jersey their own during the league

It is imperative that a plan to beat the blanket is put in place. It will be a tight game and i'd be hopeful rather than optimistic of a positive result.

Sorry...mean't his Nab team mate Grugan

[Itchy]

Mackey could actually be doubtful, got a knock last weekend against Galway in a challenge game.

Are you sure you don't mean Keating, he went off injured holding his hamstring according to the celt.