Mayo V Monaghan Qualifier

[Blowitupref]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Able to retain players for so long has been one of Monaghan's strengths but that crop has grown old together now and Monaghan will need to look to freshen up the starting team under likely new management with more 19 to 23 year olds.

[Ranty]

Yes I believe they did

Thank you

[joemamas]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Able to retain players for so long has been one of Monaghan's strengths but that crop has grown old together now and Monaghan will need to look to freshen up the starting team under likely new management with more 19 to 23 year olds.

I mentioned on an earlier post that McManus had been a quality forward for the last decade.
Did not realize he started in 2007,
Like the rest mentioned above they have put their time in, they have over six months to think about their future. Given their commitment for so long, they should be left alone and decide themselves.

[Estimator]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Able to retain players for so long has been one of Monaghan's strengths but that crop has grown old together now and Monaghan will need to look to freshen up the starting team under likely new management with more 19 to 23 year olds.

Monaghan appeared in 3 consecutive Ulster minor finals between 2018-2020. Think there are a few lads from those teams on the panel, but have yet to make the break through. Maybe the older lads are slowing that process, or maybe they're not quite the standard required yet.

[Main Street]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Drew Wylie is for the most part is an used sub, same for Colin Walshe.  McManus's question is about his physical fitness, if he feels he can't do it anymore as Paul Finlay did, then he'll retire. the rest are still viable players.

[seafoid]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Drew Wylie is for the most part is an used sub, same for Colin Walshe.  McManus's question is about his physical fitness, if he feels he can't do it anymore as Paul Finlay did, then he'll retire. the rest are still viable players.

The transition from a great team to another decent team is one of the hardest things to execute in sport. Kilkenny still haven't managed it.

[Cavan19]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Drew Wylie is for the most part is an used sub, same for Colin Walshe.  McManus's question is about his physical fitness, if he feels he can't do it anymore as Paul Finlay did, then he'll retire. the rest are still viable players.

The transition from a great team to another decent team is one of the hardest things to execute in sport. Kilkenny still haven't managed it.

Monaghan a great team?

[seafoid]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Drew Wylie is for the most part is an used sub, same for Colin Walshe.  McManus's question is about his physical fitness, if he feels he can't do it anymore as Paul Finlay did, then he'll retire. the rest are still viable players.

The transition from a great team to another decent team is one of the hardest things to execute in sport. Kilkenny still haven't managed it.

Monaghan a great team?

Best team to come out of Monaghan and Cavan in at least 20 years, I would say.
Nudie was on the last great Monaghan team.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0608/1303595-spillane-mayo-badly-lacking-scoring-power/

[Cavan19]

O'Connell wouldn't be that old would he? Walshe was playing sigerson not that long ago too - he shouldn't be that old yet? I would imagine Darren may retire but not Kieran. I don't think a couple of all ireland semis - maybe one?

From the semi-final programme:
Walshe - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2010
D Wylie - 35 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
Duffy - 31 - C'ship Debut Kildare 2010
F Kelly - 32 -  C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
O'Connell - 34 - C'ship Debut Antrim 2012
D Hughes - 35 - C'ship Debut Derry 2007
K Hughes - 31 - C'ship Debut Armagh 2009
C McManus - 34 - C'ship Debut Down 2007

Could throw in Beggan and McCarron (who will be 31 & 30 respectively next year) as well making their C'Ship debuts in 2013.  Lots of fellas with plenty of county miles on the clock at this stage. But, you'd think that McManus, Wylie, O'Connell and Hughes (snr) would be the only ones considering their position.  Was mentioned in commentary during Saturdays game that Hughes (jnr) wouldn't even contemplate retiring if his older brother was still playing as it would look really bad.

Drew Wylie is for the most part is an used sub, same for Colin Walshe.  McManus's question is about his physical fitness, if he feels he can't do it anymore as Paul Finlay did, then he'll retire. the rest are still viable players.

The transition from a great team to another decent team is one of the hardest things to execute in sport. Kilkenny still haven't managed it.

Monaghan a great team?

Best team to come out of Monaghan and Cavan in at least 20 years, I would say.
Nudie was on the last great Monaghan team.

Maybe so but not a great team in my opinion. They won 2 ulster titles in your 20 year period.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2022/0608/1303646-gaa-superstitions-joe-canning-paidi-o-se-derek-mcgrath-tyrone/the Monaghan footballers have their own seats on the team bus. 

Banty needs to look at this. Maybe they need a new bus