Menu

Show posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Show posts Menu

Messages - toby47

#16
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 06, 2024, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 12:03:11 PM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 11:52:51 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 11:06:26 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

Last time I check no1 had a gun to their head to make those 'sacrifices'. Large majority are young men with no families who are either at uni or in jobs that are very very amenable to allowing them to make 'sacrifices'. How and ever, my issue isn't with the holiday, more power to them, but spending 80k on sending a senior team on a jolly is ridiculous for a so called amateur organisation. Surely that money if it's coming from sponsors or the CB, would be better spent in games development?
Or how about instead of A county board spending 80k on a holiday for the men's team they use it to pay running costs and allow ladies, camogie, and clubs to use Owenbeg for free instead of charging them an arm and a leg to use the facilities. If the players are covering the costs themselves then work away, but if it's coming out of the coffers of sponsors then there is a whole lot better way to spend it. Yes the senior men are the marquee and face of the game to an extent, but they are not and should not be the be all and end all.

A jolly / gun to their head.. Have a word with yourself.

Quote from: ONEDerry on March 06, 2024, 11:04:22 AMIt's only being made a big deal of because of Cahair has the inside line. Counties who haven't had the recent success Derry have had  are doing this and we hear nothing about it. As has been said the income from the last couple of years and the run the county with the big attendances at games more than covers it. He's of no help to Derry that man and just enjoys stirring it.

It's not a big deal though, far from it
Have a word with myself??? Very constructive.

I'd love to know what sacrifices these poor martyrs are making in order to grace us with their presence in a Derry jersey. I've nothing against the players and their commitment level, and it's great to see them doing well. But to paint them as men making huge sacrifices is just plain wrong. They are young men living a dream of thousands of young men and woman around the country and have everything laid on for them from 5 star hotels at away games, to paid days off work any time they need it, they literally just have to turn up and do what they are asked. 

Fair play to them if they are getting a free holiday, but as a member of the GAA in Derry I feel that that money could and should be spent elsewhere. The senior lads are already well enough looked after in my opinion.

You really are doubling down on this. What about the homeless?

You're a member of the GAA in Derry, what membership is that?
You feel, and I'd say you're in a very small minority, that the Derry seniors, what they've achieved, the revenue they've brought in via gate receipts, club Derry ticket sales, sponsorship are not worthy of a holiday as a way of thanks? You've entitlement issues by the looks of it.


Entitlement? I'm not asking for anything. It's you saying boys are entitled to a holiday beside apparently they make massive sacrifices.
All I'm saying is they get well enough looked after for amateurs and 80k would be better spent elsewhere so that we can grow the game for everyone, which in turn might lead to Derry having some sustained success across all codes, not just for senior men for a couple of years.

This will be last post on this, as you sound like one of those glass half empty moaners I always end up sitting beside at games.
You are asking for stuff and you continue to ask. You're asking that money raised by the seniors, some of it is not to be spent on a thank you trip for them, but spent elsewhere. And, you talk about growing the game.. What is growing the game right now in this county than the success of the senior's?
The huge numbers at McKenna cup games in Jan / Feb. A packed Celtic Pk for Tyrone / Dublin. A massive travelling contingent on the away days (there was maybe 25 or 30 of us in Fraher Field 4 years ago). Wains are storming the pitches to meet their heroes at the end of the games. Derry City is awash with Derry gear. All schools have Derry days before the Ulster finals and the big Croke Pk days... Tell me what is growing our games more than that?

Not a moaner at all. I've been sitting in Celtic park with a couple hundred people in Div 4 so I am well aware we have little to moan about at present.
And yes you're right all that achievement is growing the game, but why do the players need a 'thank you' as you put it. What about the players who got us out of div 4, 3 etc... what about each and every coach and support staff, what about the people selling tickets and club Derry when we were in div 4, those in county boards when no-one else wanted to be, the other underage players who drove these players on to be better, and many many more. Do they not deserve thanks as well???
All the stuff you listed is correct, but all that positive stuff will come anyway regardless of a holiday. As they say a growing tide lifts all boats, so what I am saying is why not use all that good stuff, and harness it, and if there is 80k laying about spend it on something more long lasting. What about hiring a coach for a couple years to work developing junior clubs? Or as I say subsiding the usage of Owenbeg so ladies, camogie, clubs can spend their money in better coaches and facilities etc.. rather than having to spend it renting our county centre.
I'm not begrudging at all, or against the lads, I just think 80k for a holiday is a massive outlay for little return other than for a very select few, and could be used in a more positive way for all.

But anyway, as you say, last message on it and agree to disagree.

My god. Everything that's wrong with the world at the minute. Don't do anything, you may offend someone. Don't let the lads go on holiday, the fella that pushed him 16 years ago when he was an u14 might be offended he's not been offered to go on the holiday.
#17
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 06, 2024, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

I'd agree with that, probably the equivalent of about £1,500 per man. Plus sponsors will be covering the majority of the costs i'd imagine?

#18
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 06, 2024, 09:43:36 AM
I haven't a problem with the holiday, maybe i'm missing something?

#19
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
March 01, 2024, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on February 28, 2024, 05:12:36 PMWould Derry have taken him back if this happened earlier?

Yeah, they tried everything possible to keep him
#20
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 01, 2024, 11:24:47 AM
Wholesale changes for tomorrow's game, I didn't expect that from Mickey.

I was looking forward to a full strength battle v Dublin after their performance last week.

No game for 2 weeks after tomorrow, couldn't have given many lads a rest from training, or gave lads a run at home to Roscommon in the last game.
#21
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
February 27, 2024, 09:21:14 AM
Is Jack Crowley better atm, then Johnny Sexton when he first broke on to the team?

Obviously Sexton grew to a monster of a player. But who was best when first breaking onto the team?
#22
General discussion / Re: Student Finance
February 27, 2024, 09:19:03 AM
Quote from: markl121 on February 26, 2024, 09:14:06 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on February 26, 2024, 09:37:42 AM
Quote from: Delgany 2nds on February 25, 2024, 04:20:54 PMPay back for 30 years !
9% of portion of salary above £ 25000 threshold

Absolutely cheapest borrowing you'll ever get, but it's still a debt.


its 6.25%. I have been qualified 8 years now and been repaying, I just checked there and I still owe 27k. I borrowed 26607. So I owe more than I borrowed. I'll be paying 200 quid a month until the 30 years is up.

Where were you able to check this at?
#23
GAA Discussion / Re: Railway cup no more?
February 27, 2024, 09:10:58 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 24, 2024, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 24, 2024, 03:55:29 PMHow many of the smug annual All Ireland Final attendees would bother their rear ends coming in to watch such a game?
Used even 20k of the 82,300 ever get in before the end of the Minor Finals in the past?
It doesn't matter.  Giving say players from Fermanagh, Antrim , Carlow or Sligo the chance to play in Croke Park on all Ireland final day- players from weaker counties certainly deserve this honour.

It also ties in with the hurling development goals around recognition
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sz3ZjcJ1To

Aguisin : Farrandeelin RIP

With all due respect, it's not really appetising is it.
 
#24
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
February 19, 2024, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on February 19, 2024, 06:31:01 AMis cluxton officially retired.

He was part of the panel in Croke Park on Saturday evening
#25
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
February 16, 2024, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: markl121 on February 16, 2024, 08:15:40 PMJust heard from a magherafelt man he broke his finger in the first half last game?

Potential operation
#26
Quote from: seafoid on February 15, 2024, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: markl121 on February 15, 2024, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: laceer on February 15, 2024, 11:44:18 AMAre hybrids a decent alternative in terms of fuel efficiency? Or do they have similar difficulties with repair?
My da and brother have hybrids. What they seem to offer to diesel fuel economy from a petrol engine.
My Dad has a hybrid. I think it's 5 litres per 100km.

What model of car?
#27
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
February 14, 2024, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: Derry Optimist on February 12, 2024, 09:14:28 PMIf all the Glen players and the injured trio of Eoin McEvoy,Odhran Lynch and Gareth McKinless were unavailable for the Monaghan game, it would create an interesting selection dilemma for team management but a welcome opportunity for others to get welcome game time. In that unlikely scenario the following would probably be the selected team.
                        Ryan Scullion
Conor McCluskey         Chrissy McKaigue        Diarmuid Baker
Shea  Downey            Padraig McGrogan        Conor Doherty
                  Dan Higgins        Brendan Rogers
Niall Toner             Cormac Murphy           Paul Cassidy
Niall Loughlin          Shane McGuigan          Lachlan Murray.
   

Are all Glen players missing this weekend? Don't think they are.

There has also been an injury in the forward line.
#28
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
February 14, 2024, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 14, 2024, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2024, 11:46:17 PMIs Paul McNeil still on the panel, haven't seen his name on the panel for games.

Not sure - but am I right in thinking he was on the panel in some of the photos that were circulating on social media in the last few weeks for the game versus London in division 4 of the national league in Ballinascreen?

He has possibly been off the panel in years in between without ever really nailing down a spot. A fine player.

I think he has been on the panel every year since, not sure about this year though.
#29
Watched the game last night. Dire!

I get the buzz of a 90th minute winner, but you couldn't be more ecstatic, than worried, after watching that game last night. Brutal stuff, and not a one off.
#30
Quote from: Eire90 on February 02, 2024, 03:02:47 PMi never understood the fascination  with Sunday drinking

Hair of the dog, good sport on, bars not as busy...There are a few positives to it to be fair.