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Title: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2022, 06:16:12 PM
England getting the easy group again.

England
Iran
USA
Wales/Scotland/Ukraine


Qatar vs Ecuador opening game of World Cup

All groups here:

https://twitter.com/fifaworldcup/status/1509943669629018120?s=21&t=6Wx_S1F_xzpk9F_4p91CBg
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on April 01, 2022, 06:21:30 PM
Group A: Qatar, Ecuador, Netherlands, Senegal

Group B: England, Iran, USA, Scotland/Wales/Ukraine

Group C: Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland

Group D: France, UAE/Australia/Peru, Denmark, Tunisia

Group E: Spain, Costa Rica/New Zealand, Germany, Japan

Group F: Belgium, Canada, Morocco, Croatia

Group G: Brazil, Serbia, Switzerland, Cameroon

Group H: Portugal, Ghana, Uruguay, South Korea
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on April 01, 2022, 06:28:48 PM
England got an easy enough draw but Iran are playing next to home so won't be too put out by the conditions and the USA won't be pushovers any more.

There is no outstanding candidate for group of death although it will probably be the Spain, Germany, Japan, qualifier group.

I can't wait.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on April 01, 2022, 06:48:15 PM
It's some draw for England.  Looks like qatar or Senegal in 2nd round, argies in quarters.  Maybe the Dutch could slip into second place
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 01, 2022, 06:52:49 PM
That draw was a bit meh..
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 01, 2022, 06:56:24 PM
England got an easy enough draw but Iran are playing next to home so won't be too put out by the conditions and the USA won't be pushovers any more.

There is no outstanding candidate for group of death although it will probably be the Spain, Germany, Japan, qualifier group.

I can't wait.

Funny i was gona say Brazils group for group of death but theres none really....
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on April 01, 2022, 07:31:30 PM
That draw was a bit meh..

Always the case in World Cup. Will be worse next time out with European teams making up an even smaller percentage. Decent chance that all bar 1 of Euro teams will make second round. Maybe 2.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 01, 2022, 07:33:07 PM
England got an easy enough draw but Iran are playing next to home so won't be too put out by the conditions and the USA won't be pushovers any more.

There is no outstanding candidate for group of death although it will probably be the Spain, Germany, Japan, qualifier group.

I can't wait.

They are awful - they struggled in qualifying
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2022, 07:34:02 PM
England got to semifinals and finals of last two tournaments, most groups theyíll get out off
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 01, 2022, 07:49:58 PM
Draw probably a bit meh due to the move from 24 to 32. Also a few places undecided
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 01, 2022, 08:26:46 PM
The draw for 2026 might last the whole weekend
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: ardtole on April 01, 2022, 08:37:49 PM
I have Spain backed to win it since the Euros. I think their posession football in the extreme conditions will be effective in tiring teams out.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 01, 2022, 08:42:21 PM
Draw probably a bit meh due to the move from 24 to 32. Also a few places undecided
The World Cup has had 32 teams since 1998?!

Ah just ignore me lol. Gettin mixed up with the euros which increases next time round? Im away for a drink 😃
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on April 01, 2022, 08:59:13 PM
Draw probably a bit meh due to the move from 24 to 32. Also a few places undecided
The World Cup has had 32 teams since 1998?!

Ah just ignore me lol. Gettin mixed up with the euros which increases next time round? Im away for a drink 😃
The Euros went from 16 to 24 in 2016 I think. Does it increase again?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Fionntamhnach on April 01, 2022, 09:23:05 PM
Iran and the USA to play each other?
Tin hats at the ready...
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2022, 09:48:28 PM
I have Spain backed to win it since the Euros. I think their posession football in the extreme conditions will be effective in tiring teams out.

Will it be that hot in November?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on April 01, 2022, 09:53:18 PM
Southgate is one jammy cnut. The draw is a gift. They did their best to f it up in Russia and still stumbled into a SF ffs. Some shit teams there. Time for world qualifying to get the actual best 32 teams. The euros to be honest are better even with 24 teams
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on April 01, 2022, 09:53:58 PM
I have Spain backed to win it since the Euros. I think their posession football in the extreme conditions will be effective in tiring teams out.

Will it be that hot in November?


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on April 01, 2022, 09:57:29 PM
Southgate is one jammy cnut. The draw is a gift. They did their best to f it up in Russia and still stumbled into a SF ffs. Some shit teams there. Time for world qualifying to get the actual best 32 teams. The euros to be honest are better even with 24 teams

Theyíre not jammy. For the past decade theyíve significantly better at football than 95% of countries, and a bit better than half of whatís remaining.

Which means that second seeds are all clearly weaker than them. Third seeds are also rans against them. Fourth seeds might as well not show up.

As a result, just about any draw for them in a seeded competition is going to come out monstrously in their favour.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on April 01, 2022, 10:58:12 PM
No harm but I don't think Spain, Portugal or Brazil would say the draw is monstrously in their favour and they have actually won tournaments.  England have got a massive slice of luck with this draw.
I do agree though that they've improved massively in recent years under Southgate.  Thankfully they didn't go for the jugglar against the Italians in the euro final or we'd be talking about the current European champions!!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2022, 11:14:14 PM
Should have bate Croatia in semi and lost a Nation cup final also, they arenít great individuals they are a decent team thoughÖ

It wonít matter, itís who they possibly meet in the knockout stages
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Ed Ricketts on April 01, 2022, 11:27:29 PM
England got the handiest second seed, the toughest fourth seed, and a middle of the road third seed.

Their draw was neither lucky nor unlucky. Maybe just looks a bit softer for having missed out on a second seed heavyweight. No idea how the US are ranked 15th, their presence amongst the second seeds seems to skew things a bit. But it's also not as if there were many standouts in pots 3 or 4 that might have replaced them. Loads of muck in this competition. Still love it, though.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on April 02, 2022, 12:03:49 AM
No harm but I don't think Spain, Portugal or Brazil would say the draw is monstrously in their favour and they have actually won tournaments.  England have got a massive slice of luck with this draw.
I do agree though that they've improved massively in recent years under Southgate.  Thankfully they didn't go for the jugglar against the Italians in the euro final or we'd be talking about the current European champions!!

England would be between 1/2 and unbackable favourites in a match against every single team in pots 2, 3 and 4, with the exception of Germany.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 02, 2022, 12:16:37 AM
Draw probably a bit meh due to the move from 24 to 32. Also a few places undecided
The World Cup has had 32 teams since 1998?!

Ah just ignore me lol. Gettin mixed up with the euros which increases next time round? Im away for a drink 😃
The Euros went from 16 to 24 in 2016 I think. Does it increase again?

Possibly in 2028 ive read there. Ill get it right yet!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on April 02, 2022, 01:11:42 AM
i feel like a lot of groups outside the top seeds look close
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on April 02, 2022, 01:20:23 AM
I have Spain backed to win it since the Euros. I think their posession football in the extreme conditions will be effective in tiring teams out.

Will it be that hot in November?




i would love global qualifying  it be interesting see ireland  having to play a match in Bolivia imagine Ireland playing USA in a qualifier it be a great trip for some people  but it would probably too hard logistically to have teams like cook islands come to Europe.  you would would probably have to have the weaker teams stay in regions then when 80 is left have a global qualifying tournament.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: DrinkingHarp on June 23, 2022, 04:51:49 AM
Relax, don't do it   -  especially in Qatar

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/single-football-fans-could-face-032445002.html

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 26, 2022, 07:53:58 AM
On Group B, did Wales qualify?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on June 26, 2022, 07:55:29 AM
Unfortunately yes
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on June 26, 2022, 08:31:54 AM
I have Spain backed to win it since the Euros. I think their posession football in the extreme conditions will be effective in tiring teams out.

Will it be that hot in November?




i would love global qualifying  it be interesting see ireland  having to play a match in Bolivia imagine Ireland playing USA in a qualifier it be a great trip for some people  but it would probably too hard logistically to have teams like cook islands come to Europe.  you would would probably have to have the weaker teams stay in regions then when 80 is left have a global qualifying tournament.

Would only benefit the mid tier UEFA nations. Not inconceivable that all bar 1 of the UEFA teams will make the second round this year. Brazilís group is the only one where a UEFA team will almost certainly fall. If there was global qualifying youíd probably have 20 of the 32 from Europe.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on June 26, 2022, 12:54:49 PM
I have Spain backed to win it since the Euros. I think their posession football in the extreme conditions will be effective in tiring teams out.

Will it be that hot in November?




i would love global qualifying  it be interesting see ireland  having to play a match in Bolivia imagine Ireland playing USA in a qualifier it be a great trip for some people  but it would probably too hard logistically to have teams like cook islands come to Europe.  you would would probably have to have the weaker teams stay in regions then when 80 is left have a global qualifying tournament.

Would only benefit the mid tier UEFA nations. Not inconceivable that all bar 1 of the UEFA teams will make the second round this year. Brazilís group is the only one where a UEFA team will almost certainly fall. If there was global qualifying youíd probably have 20 of the 32 from Europe.

global qualifying would work if there was no seeding
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Franko on September 12, 2022, 05:28:59 PM
Get your money on Wales lads

This is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho9UuNq9-dA

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on September 13, 2022, 04:13:55 PM
Get your money on Wales lads

This is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho9UuNq9-dA
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0913/1322206-wales-boss-page-wants-fantastic-sheen-at-world-cup/
Wales manager Robert Page plans to invite Michael Sheen to the World Cup after the Hollywood actor's "significant" speech on television.

Sheen's passionate oratory on Sky's sports panel show A League of Their Own has gone viral on social media, with the two-minute clip having had over 13million views.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Square Ball on September 14, 2022, 01:04:23 AM
Get your money on Wales lads

This is incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho9UuNq9-dA
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0913/1322206-wales-boss-page-wants-fantastic-sheen-at-world-cup/
Wales manager Robert Page plans to invite Michael Sheen to the World Cup after the Hollywood actor's "significant" speech on television.

Sheen's passionate oratory on Sky's sports panel show A League of Their Own has gone viral on social media, with the two-minute clip having had over 13million views.
Absolutely superb, seen it on Twitter and don't care one little bit of it was rehersed or not, would make you want to go out and kick the bejeepers out of the neighbors.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on September 14, 2022, 10:19:17 AM
He also did a lecture on the Welsh and Britishness from i think 2017 which is available.  It's just as good.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 15, 2022, 02:33:46 AM
I thought it was Andy Serkis

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 26, 2022, 09:17:47 PM
England losing a few games. Hopefully the form continues.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on September 26, 2022, 09:48:11 PM
England losing a few games. Hopefully the form continues.

Ended up a draw.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on September 27, 2022, 01:49:44 AM
England losing a few games. Hopefully the form continues.

Nah, it's better when they get close and fail.  Not as close as the Euro finals last time, but semis or quarters (loss on penos preferably) are pretty much perfect.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Look-Up! on September 27, 2022, 01:24:49 PM
They looked very good when playing at a high tempo and running at opposition (although that's not a great German team). They have some very electric and exciting players but they don't look like a team who can control the tempo of a game that well. Their passing game is not strong enough and they inevitability come up with a stray pass. Look sloppy and error prone in defence when the pressure is on too. They will take beating of course but probably not equipped enough for a tournament like the WC. Would take a very lucky draw for them to be in the shake up and a big improvement in form to boot. 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on September 27, 2022, 01:59:45 PM
A back three of Dyer (going OK with spurs in fairness), Maguire and Stones/Walker is never keeping a clean sheet against the better teams and this German outfit are bang average by their standards although the 19yo looks to have something about him.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on September 27, 2022, 02:04:51 PM
England managers always make the same mistakes. They pick on loyalty and past performance rather than form or ability. Maguire and Shaw are not good enough to play in that team. Picking them leaves others wondering what they have to do to get in the team. Their teammates don't trust them. I can't see Southgate being the Manager in Jan 2023 if he keeps picking Maguire.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: oakleaflad on September 27, 2022, 02:09:16 PM
A back three of Dyer (going OK with spurs in fairness), Maguire and Stones/Walker is never keeping a clean sheet against the better teams and this German outfit are bang average by their standards although the 19yo looks to have something about him.
Capped by England up to U21 level. They've missed out there.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on September 27, 2022, 02:16:30 PM
A back three of Dyer (going OK with spurs in fairness), Maguire and Stones/Walker is never keeping a clean sheet against the better teams and this German outfit are bang average by their standards although the 19yo looks to have something about him.
Capped by England up to U21 level. They've missed out there.
Karma for Rice and Grealish!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on September 27, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on September 28, 2022, 07:00:22 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0928/1326014-simpler-danish-kit-to-serve-as-protest-against-qatar/
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on September 28, 2022, 07:30:40 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0928/1326014-simpler-danish-kit-to-serve-as-protest-against-qatar/

Someone in the American politics thread questioned what "virtue signalling" was and that it was a term invented hy conservatives to bash the libs.

THIS is virtue signalling.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on September 28, 2022, 09:17:20 PM
In other news, 13 hour queuing Beckham is taking the Qatar Cash.

''Whatever about the morality of it all, from a brand perspective, the decision to assume a cultural ambassador role for Qatar to promote the countryís tourism and culture was a highly questionable one, though one for which he is being reportedly remunerated to the tune of £150m.''

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 10, 2022, 09:53:09 PM
Just having a look at the draw and trying to see which outsider could make a run to the latter stages? Thinking Uruguay, Denmark or Mexico but probably just basing this on past world cups.  Any ideas/views?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on November 10, 2022, 10:03:11 PM
In other news, 13 hour queuing Beckham is taking the Qatar Cash.

''Whatever about the morality of it all, from a brand perspective, the decision to assume a cultural ambassador role for Qatar to promote the countryís tourism and culture was a highly questionable one, though one for which he is being reportedly remunerated to the tune of £150m.''

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/)

For £150m I'd support Down.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JimStynes on November 10, 2022, 10:29:20 PM
In other news, 13 hour queuing Beckham is taking the Qatar Cash.

''Whatever about the morality of it all, from a brand perspective, the decision to assume a cultural ambassador role for Qatar to promote the countryís tourism and culture was a highly questionable one, though one for which he is being reportedly remunerated to the tune of £150m.''

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/)

For £150m I'd support Down.

£150m! Crazy money!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 10, 2022, 10:48:43 PM
In other news, 13 hour queuing Beckham is taking the Qatar Cash.

''Whatever about the morality of it all, from a brand perspective, the decision to assume a cultural ambassador role for Qatar to promote the countryís tourism and culture was a highly questionable one, though one for which he is being reportedly remunerated to the tune of £150m.''

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0921/1324688-beckham-silence-in-step-with-qatari-world-cup-omerta/)

For £150m I'd support Down.

£150m! Crazy money!
Not like he needs it but Jesus that is some dough canít blame him
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Scarlet on November 12, 2022, 08:03:34 AM
Here's Sir David...

https://twitter.com/SeanBurkeShow/status/1591060130061131777?t=WsbouPTXFSS-jcJfH9KxxA&s=19
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: theskull1 on November 12, 2022, 09:57:35 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

More a dig at anyone who's in any way 'looking forward' to this world cup.

Predicting it'll be a disaster whilst the media get paid handsomely to dress it up and try to convince everyone its not that bad.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 16, 2022, 10:51:37 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qatar-world-cup-media-laws-28503229.amp  (https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qatar-world-cup-media-laws-28503229.amp)

This is a completely normal World Cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 16, 2022, 11:04:20 PM
Why wasn't there as much outrage before and during the last World Cup?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 16, 2022, 11:18:07 PM
Why wasn't there as much outrage before and during the last World Cup?

There was a fair bit as I recall.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 16, 2022, 11:35:14 PM
Why wasn't there as much outrage before and during the last World Cup?

There was a fair bit as I recall.

Definitely was a bit but nowhere near this level.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 17, 2022, 12:08:14 AM
Why wasn't there as much outrage before and during the last World Cup?

There was a fair bit as I recall.

Definitely was a bit but nowhere near this level.
Or South Africa spending billions on white elephant stadium infrastructure, just how many people died due to service cuts in other areas?
The whole Qatar application and voting process was so corrupt that even Sep voted for Australia  ;)
On the other hand for those fans who have booked their hotel space, Qatar 2022 will be a dream competition in regards to following their team. No longer do they have to travel tens of thousands of Kms to follow their team, they even take in 2 games a day.
Ireland at Australia/NZ WC,  fans first travel to Australia, then travel all day to the 2nd group game and same again for the third game. Absolutely brainless scheduling and yet its tolerated without a murmur of protest.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 17, 2022, 12:59:44 PM
The World Cup this year reminds me of the 2020 all Irelands.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 17, 2022, 01:01:59 PM
The World Cup this year reminds me of the 2020 all Irelands.
Yeah thats a good one!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 17, 2022, 05:24:45 PM
The World Cup this year reminds me of the 2020 all Irelands.
Yes hard to get the head around the normally summer tournament played in November and December
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 17, 2022, 08:05:48 PM
https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1592485080349708288?s=46&t=QqhmCbbpWxCnDWYNEhDaBg (https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1592485080349708288?s=46&t=QqhmCbbpWxCnDWYNEhDaBg)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 17, 2022, 08:27:42 PM
The World Cup this year reminds me of the 2020 all Irelands.
Yes hard to get the head around the normally summer tournament played in November and December
It's an abomination. There used to be a 3 or 4 week run up to the tournament. And it used to be in summer.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 17, 2022, 08:48:21 PM
https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1592485080349708288?s=46&t=QqhmCbbpWxCnDWYNEhDaBg (https://twitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1592485080349708288?s=46&t=QqhmCbbpWxCnDWYNEhDaBg)

You'd wonder where Qatars influence/control will end? Could pressure be put on the Referee for Qatari games? It has happened before - Argentina v Peru and South Korea v Italy.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 18, 2022, 01:47:20 PM
beer in stadium banned announced apparently cooperates can still drink beer
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 18, 2022, 01:50:32 PM
Animal Farm.
Not that one the other one
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gmac on November 18, 2022, 03:00:45 PM
Major sporting events should not be in places like Qatar,  the whole vibe is against their culture a massive backhander gone wrong.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Baile BrigŪn 2 on November 18, 2022, 03:16:15 PM
beer in stadium banned announced apparently cooperates can still drink beer

A major kick in FIFA's nads. They aren't even pretending to  play along amymore
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 18, 2022, 03:20:49 PM
Major sporting events should not be in places like Qatar,  the whole vibe is against their culture a massive backhander gone wrong.
Yup. It's all arseways. Totally corrupt and at the wrong time of year.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 18, 2022, 04:48:56 PM
Nepal sent more workers to Qatar than almost any nation, their people built the World Cup. More than 2,000 returned in coffins.


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: theskull1 on November 18, 2022, 05:22:49 PM
Those in corporate areas of stadiums at the tournament will still be able to purchase alcohol.

 ::)

Who wants to have anything to do with this sham?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 18, 2022, 06:12:35 PM
These issues  with migrant workers , exploitation, and all the alcohol/gay  stuff was known 10 years  ago.  Countries should have got  together years ago and stated they werenít  going to play any World Cup in Qatar.  No point complaining about it two days  away
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 18, 2022, 06:34:29 PM
Itís back again

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRBLAHjkTo
 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRBLAHjkTo)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: The Trap on November 18, 2022, 09:47:51 PM
Will Qatar buy a result on Sunday against Equador?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 18, 2022, 09:56:28 PM
Will Qatar buy a result on Sunday against Equador?

I hope they get thumped
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 18, 2022, 09:58:14 PM
I hope they do well.  Tournament is always much better if the hosts get through a few rounds
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on November 18, 2022, 10:16:44 PM
Wouldn't fancy reffing one of their games all the same.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 19, 2022, 12:03:52 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/world-cup-accommodation-site-unfinished-with-abandoned-trucks (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/world-cup-accommodation-site-unfinished-with-abandoned-trucks)

The circus continues.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 19, 2022, 12:10:28 AM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gmac on November 19, 2022, 01:53:03 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/world-cup-accommodation-site-unfinished-with-abandoned-trucks (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/world-cup-accommodation-site-unfinished-with-abandoned-trucks)

The circus continues.
why  would you want to go near it with not a beer in sight.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on November 19, 2022, 03:45:34 AM
Checking the schedule there and I see a game that I thought would get more attention: 

Monday 21 Nov  ENG v IRA

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 19, 2022, 08:12:21 AM
Will Qatar buy a result on Sunday against Equador?

I hope they get thumped
They have been training together for several months. Nobody else has. This year's winter tournament is like a blend between a major football gig and the O'Byrne cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: michaelg on November 19, 2022, 08:28:23 AM
Will Qatar buy a result on Sunday against Equador?

I hope they get thumped
They have been training together for several months. Nobody else has. This year's winter tournament is like a blend between a major football gig and the O'Byrne cup.
They got beat by Linfield.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on November 19, 2022, 09:51:23 AM
Checking the schedule there and I see a game that I thought would get more attention: 

Monday 21 Nov  ENG v IRA

Gerry Adams on Twitter is well onto that one.  ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 19, 2022, 11:12:12 AM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 19, 2022, 11:14:25 AM
I see infantino has been making a fool of himself today with his Qatar defense. Must be trying to out do platini and blatter.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on November 19, 2022, 11:16:00 AM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.

Yep. 2026 group stages will be awful. While 5 of the top 30 teams sit back in Europe twiddling their thumbs.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 19, 2022, 11:32:43 AM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.

Those pub teams federations give excellent bribes though to the FIFA Executive Committee 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 19, 2022, 01:05:07 PM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.

Those pub teams federations give excellent bribes though to the FIFA Executive Committee

Probably true. UEFA must surely have enough clout though to fight for their own teams so why don't they?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 19, 2022, 05:08:12 PM
Always thought the same. Having representation from all corners of the world is more important than having the best teams there.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 19, 2022, 05:13:55 PM
The 32 best teams in the world would be 80-90% European
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: blasmere on November 19, 2022, 05:26:05 PM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.

Those pub teams federations give excellent bribes though to the FIFA Executive Committee

Probably true. UEFA must surely have enough clout though to fight for their own teams so why don't they?

Itís one vote per country with fifa  I think so uefa are not in any better a position than some of the better federations most of whom have much poorer quality teams.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 19, 2022, 05:43:44 PM
Always thought the same. Having representation from all corners of the world is more important than having the best teams there.

Yes, getting to see teams from different continents play each other makes the WC makes it more interesting. Who wants to see a rehash of the Euro's.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2022, 09:35:53 PM
https://salience.co.uk/insight/magazine/world-cup/
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on November 19, 2022, 10:29:35 PM
Always thought the same. Having representation from all corners of the world is more important than having the best teams there.

Yes, getting to see teams from different continents play each other makes the WC makes it more interesting. Who wants to see a rehash of the Euro's.

I think it is about getting the balance right between having the best teams and having representation from all over the globe. I personally would go more towards having the best European teams there. 

FIFAs sponsors probably want China and India in the tournament because of their populations.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 19, 2022, 10:43:20 PM
Benzema out
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 19, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Always thought the same. Having representation from all corners of the world is more important than having the best teams there.

Yes, getting to see teams from different continents play each other makes the WC makes it more interesting. Who wants to see a rehash of the Euro's.

My attempt at sarcasm didn't get through. If the 32 best teams in the world are from Europe, then that's what the World Cup should be. It shouldn't be about representation.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 20, 2022, 12:28:07 AM
Itís not possible to ascertain where the best 32 countries in the world come from, at any given time, unless thereís an ongoing competitive worldwide ďleagueĒ taking place. Which letís be honest, nobody wants to see.

And even if that was to happen, what difference would it really make to the outcome of the tournament? Ultimately, 9 times out 10, the only potential winners are those that have won it before. They just have more of what it takes;  the culture, the pedigree, the population, the talent.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 20, 2022, 01:21:42 AM
if the world cup was a straight forward knockout like the fa cup  with maybe  the last 16 onwards played in a host country it  be kinda of fun imagine ireland having to travel to samoa or somwhere to play a 1st round game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Ed Ricketts on November 20, 2022, 01:33:30 AM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.

The numbers might suggest that expansion has been good for non-traditional nations.

In the six tournaments since going to 32 teams we've had 9 non-Euro/Bra/Arg representatives in the last 8.
In the six tournaments prior to going to 32 teams we had 3 non-Euro/Bra/Arg representatives in the last 8/12.

So more involvement = more success for the 'pub' teams. Which is a good thing. The World Cup is more interesting when it is a world cup.

But Europe does seem to be getting a raw deal in the expansion to 48. Should probably be looking at ~19 qualifiers instead of the 16 slated, if the current shares were carried through. Africa and Asia do very well - a cynic might say this is Infantino and the lads shoring up their base, with perhaps an aspiration for more regular Chinese involvement.

I don't think this situation will persist though, it's too daft. The repechage tournament for the final two spots in 2026 looks like it will be particularly ridiculous. The 7th and 8th best teams from North/Central America, the 10th best team from Africa, the 9th best team from Asia, the 7th best team from South America, and the 2nd best group of islands in the Pacific. So, if this was in place for 2022, we'd see El Salvador, Honduras, Syria, DR Congo, Chile, and the mighty Solomon Islands fighting for two qualifying places. While half a dozen or more good European teams will have already been told to try again next time.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 20, 2022, 09:10:31 AM
china and india still  wouldnt have qualified this year if there was  48  teams  but they probably want to mskr it easier for them
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on November 20, 2022, 09:19:15 AM
Benzema out
What did he do this time?

Extortion, blackmail?????
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 20, 2022, 11:06:23 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCRosAtkins/status/1594225685303738368
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 20, 2022, 02:52:35 PM
Morgan Freeman has taken the Buck! ???
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 20, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
They a poor team, not win a game think but this hot weather, its hard to tell, only European teams I think do well is, Portugal or Spain where the weather is hot.

It will be the usual 6 European teams and Argentina and Brazil in the QF you may get one other team instead. It makes a mockery of the WC every time they keep expanding the tournament, more pub teams get in.  It is getting expanded to 48 soon and only about 15 euro positions - a joke. They should get about 25 based on rankings. I have said it before world qualifying would allow the best teams to actually qualify instead of the current farce.

The numbers might suggest that expansion has been good for non-traditional nations.

In the six tournaments since going to 32 teams we've had 9 non-Euro/Bra/Arg representatives in the last 8.
In the six tournaments prior to going to 32 teams we had 3 non-Euro/Bra/Arg representatives in the last 8/12.

So more involvement = more success for the 'pub' teams. Which is a good thing. The World Cup is more interesting when it is a world cup.

But Europe does seem to be getting a raw deal in the expansion to 48. Should probably be looking at ~19 qualifiers instead of the 16 slated, if the current shares were carried through. Africa and Asia do very well - a cynic might say this is Infantino and the lads shoring up their base, with perhaps an aspiration for more regular Chinese involvement.

I don't think this situation will persist though, it's too daft. The repechage tournament for the final two spots in 2026 looks like it will be particularly ridiculous. The 7th and 8th best teams from North/Central America, the 10th best team from Africa, the 9th best team from Asia, the 7th best team from South America, and the 2nd best group of islands in the Pacific. So, if this was in place for 2022, we'd see El Salvador, Honduras, Syria, DR Congo, Chile, and the mighty Solomon Islands fighting for two qualifying places. While half a dozen or more good European teams will have already been told to try again next time.

When you describe the Solomon Islands as ďmightyĒ, and half a dozen European teams as ďgoodĒ, all Iím thinking is that youíd be happy enough with any World Cup format, as long as Ireland get there. That they would have no more impact on the tournament (currently) than the Solomon Islands doesnít seem important.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 20, 2022, 03:14:52 PM
It's not about Ireland, although they should certainly have an easier chance of qualifying for the 48 team world cup than they will. You only have to see a team like Italy not being there and some of the muck that is there and that is with only 32 teams and realise there is a big problem.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gmac on November 20, 2022, 03:18:23 PM
From my years on this site and judging by how liberal most opinions are here Iím sure 95%+ cannot be watching this competition hosted by country that bans homosexuality and treats women and minorities  like dirt ? I for one will not be watching whoís with me ? time to make a stand against this type of regime.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 20, 2022, 03:19:37 PM
And the history of sport is full of scenarios in which some of the best competitors get knocked out before the competition gets serious.

óó

Btw I do think that any former winners of the WC should automatically qualify.

Problem is that same countries would then complain that they donít have competitive football for two years in the lead up to a WC. Which, if implemented, means thereís always a chance some wonít qualify.

ó-

Sport isnít fair. Itís not perfect.

If it was either, it would be no fun to watch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 03:56:07 PM
From my years on this site and judging by how liberal most opinions are here Iím sure 95%+ cannot be watching this competition hosted by country that bans homosexuality and treats women and minorities  like dirt ? I for one will not be watching whoís with me ? time to make a stand against this type of regime.

Iíll be watching it once the hurling is overÖ.

Are you saying by watching it you are happy with how this country runs itís affairs?

Youíd be leaving the states if you had high standards but I doubt you do

We wouldnít watch most sports nowadays if we applied your logic, but something tells me youíre acting the dick
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 20, 2022, 04:05:36 PM
Take that qatar ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 20, 2022, 04:08:13 PM
Ffs they have paid the refs too
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 20, 2022, 04:08:27 PM
No goal!
This World Cup is gonna be great craic!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 20, 2022, 04:08:32 PM
Var man must have got s nice bung there
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 20, 2022, 04:08:46 PM
The Corruption continues.................................
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 20, 2022, 04:09:06 PM
Ah here.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 20, 2022, 04:09:22 PM
Here, just hand Qatar  the trophy now

That was laughable   ::)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on November 20, 2022, 04:11:41 PM
I am watching with Spanish commentary, what was the goal disallowed for?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 20, 2022, 04:12:40 PM
I am watching with Spanish commentary, what was the goal disallowed for?
Nobody knows! George Hamilton very confused !
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 20, 2022, 04:12:56 PM
I am watching with Spanish commentary, what was the goal disallowed for?

Offside.... apparently.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 20, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Oh dear
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 20, 2022, 04:13:50 PM
I am watching with Spanish commentary, what was the goal disallowed for?

It was disallowed because it was against qatar ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 20, 2022, 04:18:34 PM
That keeper is a dud. Could see Donnaurama in disguise playing for them next day!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 20, 2022, 04:18:58 PM
That penalty was offside!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: square_ball on November 20, 2022, 04:19:19 PM
This goalkeeper wouldnít get a game in the Mid Ulster league.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 20, 2022, 04:23:22 PM
Did I hear Richie Sadlier in studio make Qatar a dark horse. If Var disallowed every goal against then, they still wouldnít win.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 20, 2022, 04:37:24 PM
Should have been first hat-trick but heíll get it yet.

Or maybe not, should take Valencia off before one of those brute challenges ends his World Cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 20, 2022, 05:09:25 PM
I regret picking them for my pool 8 now
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 20, 2022, 05:32:08 PM
Unlike Russian World Cup, not one camera shot yet of a hot babe.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: markl121 on November 20, 2022, 05:38:33 PM
Unlike Russian World Cup, not one camera shot yet of a hot babe.
Spotted two tasty Ecuadorian dolls earlier
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 20, 2022, 05:47:39 PM
Unlike Russian World Cup, not one camera shot yet of a hot babe.

The Qatari woman  I spotted had lovely eyes.  Thatís all I could see of her to be fair
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2022, 05:48:53 PM
Some meaty Challenges, but still, some lads get a touch and go down as if they shot. Wonder how many could cut it at Gaelic football.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2022, 05:52:23 PM
The only decent lower ranked host team to make a go of it was South Korea and they got plenty dodgy decisions at the time.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 20, 2022, 05:56:32 PM
Sooner these group games are over the better
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Itchy on November 20, 2022, 06:01:15 PM
That was so bad I nearly watched yesterday's rugby match.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 20, 2022, 06:09:51 PM
Some meaty Challenges, but still, some lads get a touch and go down as if they shot. Wonder how many could cut it at Gaelic football.
Sure there have been Gaelic Footballers who fall like theyíve been shot when someone ruffled their hairÖ
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 20, 2022, 06:26:59 PM
When the game was won at 2-0 Ecuador were more interested in not getting anymore knocks, Yellows and not huffing the host nation.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 20, 2022, 06:43:39 PM

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JoG2 on November 20, 2022, 07:37:36 PM
Some meaty Challenges, but still, some lads get a touch and go down as if they shot. Wonder how many could cut it at Gaelic football.
Sure there have been Gaelic Footballers who fall like theyíve been shot when someone ruffled their hairÖ

And it made the headlines, in soccer it's part of the culture now unfortunately
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: mrdeeds on November 20, 2022, 07:50:11 PM
Some meaty Challenges, but still, some lads get a touch and go down as if they shot. Wonder how many could cut it at Gaelic football.
Sure there have been Gaelic Footballers who fall like theyíve been shot when someone ruffled their hairÖ

And it made the headlines, in soccer it's part of the culture now unfortunately

It's part of GAA now. See it every game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 20, 2022, 07:55:08 PM
Some meaty Challenges, but still, some lads get a touch and go down as if they shot. Wonder how many could cut it at Gaelic football.
Sure there have been Gaelic Footballers who fall like theyíve been shot when someone ruffled their hairÖ

And it made the headlines, in soccer it's part of the culture now unfortunately

It's part of GAA now. See it every game.

Been part of it for a long time at this stage.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: lenny on November 20, 2022, 08:33:50 PM
Some meaty Challenges, but still, some lads get a touch and go down as if they shot. Wonder how many could cut it at Gaelic football.
Sure there have been Gaelic Footballers who fall like theyíve been shot when someone ruffled their hairÖ

And it made the headlines, in soccer it's part of the culture now unfortunately

That particular dive/simulation would still make headlines in either sport. Still the worst piece of cheating Iíve seen on a GAA pitch
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2022, 08:54:52 PM
If a ref falls for diving then itís fucked
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 20, 2022, 11:28:54 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 20, 2022, 11:30:51 PM
Learn some new about the off side rule today, actually need read the rule book, nearly as hard as keeping up with gaa rule book.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on November 21, 2022, 10:11:02 AM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 21, 2022, 11:39:33 AM
European teams back down on wearing "One Love" armband.  Fairly embarrassing. It seems the threat of a yellow card is enough to kick human rights into touch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 11:42:11 AM
European teams back down on wearing "One Love" armband.  Fairly embarrassing. It seems the threat of a yellow card is enough to kick human rights into touch.

Should all play in drag outfits and wear make up for the craic
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2022, 11:45:10 AM
European teams back down on wearing "One Love" armband.  Fairly embarrassing. It seems the threat of a yellow card is enough to kick human rights into touch.

Just the latest in a long line of climb downs over this world cup.

Get it played and out of the way and move on.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 21, 2022, 11:49:26 AM
European teams back down on wearing "One Love" armband.  Fairly embarrassing. It seems the threat of a yellow card is enough to kick human rights into touch.
Was always gonna happen.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Man Marker on November 21, 2022, 12:14:02 PM
when your invited to spend time in your hosts home, respect their culture or respectful decline. They are entitled to their culture based on their religious values as we are to ours.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: NAG1 on November 21, 2022, 12:17:23 PM
when your invited to spend time in your hosts home, respect their culture or respectful decline. They are entitled to their culture based on their religious values as we are to ours.

Yeah but if you are part of the corporate set that changes things, then you can do as you like.

Price of the tickets seem to change the value of their values.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 21, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
England team to take the knee. Are the Qataris racist against black people?

Taking the knee doesn't mean anything anymore, it's become like the players shaking hands before the game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 21, 2022, 12:20:24 PM
England team to take the knee. Are the Qataris racist against black people?

Taking the knee doesn't mean anything anymore, it's become like the players shaking hands before the game.
Itís ridiculous
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on November 21, 2022, 12:26:40 PM
England team to take the knee. Are the Qataris racist against black people?

Taking the knee doesn't mean anything anymore, it's become like the players shaking hands before the game.
Itís ridiculous

Pointless at this stage. Lost all significance.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Good to see Alex Scott.... wearing the armband that Kane won't be wearing!!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 21, 2022, 12:32:00 PM
Agreed

Can't believe they gave in
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 21, 2022, 12:33:14 PM
If any of them cared one bit about gay rights or womens right or workers or whatever else theyíd completely boycott the world cup. Money talks and bullshit walks.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 12:36:10 PM
Of course they don't care. The second it looked like they actually would get yellow cards for it they all folded like a house of cards.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 21, 2022, 12:38:40 PM
Maguire starts for England.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 12:49:22 PM
Huge numbers of England fans still not in. Big queues outside. Are the French police running security in Qatar?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: blasmere on November 21, 2022, 12:50:45 PM
Huge numbers of England fans still not in. Big queues outside. Are the French police running security in Qatar?

Itís the fifa app apparently and the tickets, not the police.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 21, 2022, 12:58:30 PM
Huge numbers of England fans still not in. Big queues outside. Are the French police running security in Qatar?
Probably Liverpool fansÖ
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 21, 2022, 12:59:45 PM
Declan Rice seems to put extra effort into singing the Anthem
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 01:01:08 PM
The ref has sent off ten players in last 9 games! Should be fun
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 21, 2022, 01:02:32 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.

Eh? When did this  become a thing?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: HiMucker on November 21, 2022, 01:06:35 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.

Eh? When did this  become a thing?
Its always been a rule. Its just that 99.9% of the time the goalkeeper is one of the two defenders. Vaguely remember a premier league goal chalked off a few years ago for the very same thing after the keeper had come up in injury time for a corner and the defending team counter attacked.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 21, 2022, 01:07:11 PM
If any of them cared one bit about gay rights or womens right or workers or whatever else theyíd completely boycott the world cup. Money talks and bullshit walks.

Yes and if anyone  cared about Bangladesh  people working for pennies a day , theyíd boycott Primark/Penneyís and stop buying  Nike trainers. 

But nobody does that , do they?  Getting your T shirts for £2 is more important
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 21, 2022, 01:07:37 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.


Eh? When did this  become a thing?

That's been the rule since about 1925!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 01:17:42 PM
Goal keeper should be gone!! The sub keeper must be rubbish
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on November 21, 2022, 01:25:08 PM
Goal keeper should be gone!! The sub keeper must be rubbish

That big hooter took some thump all the same.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 01:29:00 PM
Goal keeper should be gone!! The sub keeper must be rubbish

That big hooter took some thump all the same.

It doubled in size after getting hit
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 21, 2022, 01:29:52 PM
Checking the schedule there and I see a game that I thought would get more attention: 

Monday 21 Nov  ENG v IRA

IRA looking cowardly against ENG thus far.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 21, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
Goal from Liverpoolís BellinghamÖ.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 01:45:11 PM
Goal from Liverpoolís BellinghamÖ.

And then Liverpools Saka!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 21, 2022, 01:46:24 PM
And ex-Liverpool sterling
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 21, 2022, 01:46:52 PM
Itís coming homeÖ.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 21, 2022, 01:54:14 PM
Best team ever seen. The pick of france and brazil wouldnt bate england.

Big declan singin loud and proud
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 02:16:18 PM
Best team ever seen. The pick of france and brazil wouldnt bate england.

Big declan singin loud and proud

Well he was born in England and has spent his whole life in  England so why wouldn't he?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 21, 2022, 02:19:50 PM
How bad is Cambodia? They lost 10-0 to this Iran side recently.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 02:36:28 PM
Maguire lol
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 21, 2022, 02:37:15 PM
How bad is Cambodia? They lost 10-0 to this Iran side recently.

Pub team so Cambodia should probably get a direct bye next time at the expense of Spain  ;D
Good goal there, Maguire nowhere
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 21, 2022, 02:40:28 PM
They've been awful but that was actually a good goal by Iran.  Maguire caught out...that's a worry for Eng.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 21, 2022, 03:18:26 PM
2 goals and a couple of other good chances for Iran. Other teams will exploit that English defense
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 21, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
I'm getting worried already  :-[
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 21, 2022, 03:23:32 PM
England played well and were much the better team and should walk that group but Iran were very poor.  On that display they wont worry the USA or Wales.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 21, 2022, 03:30:41 PM
England played well and were much the better team and should walk that group but Iran were very poor.  On that display they wont worry the USA or Wales.
I'm getting worried already  :-[
As long as Southgate doesnít work out that he should drop Maguire weíre safe enough
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 21, 2022, 03:32:21 PM
Best team ever seen. The pick of france and brazil wouldnt bate england.

Big declan singin loud and proud

Well he was born in England and has spent his whole life in  England so why wouldn't he?

Ach its nothin. Just that time he played for Ireland
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on November 21, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.

Eh? When did this  become a thing?

Lol!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 03:59:56 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.

Eh? When did this  become a thing?

Lol!

Man doesn't know if it's pumped or stuffed.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 21, 2022, 04:20:33 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.


Eh? When did this  become a thing?

That's been the rule since about 1925!

It was the two defenders thing that threw me . Yes I know how the offside rule works , , but there was  still no offside there
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 04:24:57 PM
Can someone please tell me why Ecuador had that goal  ruled out?

Iíve watched it  numerous times and I still  canít work it out.  Commentators didnít question it . So am I just thick or  was it  the decision correct?

Needs to be two defenders between the attacker and the goal line. Usually one is goalie but in this instance the Qatar keeper had went on a sortie so the defender became the last man.


Eh? When did this  become a thing?

That's been the rule since about 1925!

It was the two defenders thing that threw me . Yes I know how the offside rule works , , but there was  still no offside there

The boy who is standing beside the Qatar goalkeeper has his leg behind the keeper when he jumps up and punches it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2022, 04:37:31 PM
2 goals and a couple of other good chances for Iran. Other teams will exploit that English defense
https://twitter.com/RTEsoccer/status/1594675589331312640
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 21, 2022, 06:02:04 PM
A tri colour  with father jack on it behind the Senegal goals
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 21, 2022, 07:32:29 PM
US look the better team here. Playing nice sharp football.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 21, 2022, 07:36:56 PM
Wales have brought some amount of fans. Definitely generating the best atmosphere of the tournament so far.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 21, 2022, 07:37:54 PM
That goal was coming.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 21, 2022, 07:43:10 PM
Wales still on the plane, dire stuff from them, very disappointing. It's funny how I want to see the Welsh footballers do well but when it comes to rugby I want to see them get thumped.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 21, 2022, 07:43:30 PM
George Weah cub, Ireland and must missed a beat there.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 21, 2022, 07:45:03 PM
Them English bollacks looking dangerous, got enough up front but Ole Harry let them down in a big game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 21, 2022, 08:11:00 PM
England looked good. They have brilliant attackers and will go far. Dunno how or why Iran got that penalty.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2022, 08:24:36 PM
England's defence is their weakness.
Wales not too shabby in second half.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 21, 2022, 08:41:32 PM
Them English bollacks looking dangerous, got enough up front but Ole Harry let them down in a big game.

Not sure why Maguire went off, didnít see why either but reports saying blurred vision ( code for time to go)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 21, 2022, 08:41:46 PM
Penalty for Wales. Bale scores. I wonder if Giggs is watching,
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 22, 2022, 11:17:33 AM
argentina look good ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 22, 2022, 11:18:29 AM
argentina look good ;D

Well they did in the first half anyway!

Mad start to 2nd half here for the Saudis
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 11:20:43 AM
SCENES
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: toby47 on November 22, 2022, 11:26:33 AM
😱😱😱
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 22, 2022, 11:43:47 AM
I canít believe I believed the hype  about this Argentina team

Tbh there are no  real great stand out  teams in this tournament.  The more I see, the more  I dread the unthinkable might happen
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 11:44:14 AM
Messi takes his point
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on November 22, 2022, 11:47:03 AM
I canít believe I believed the hype  about this Argentina team

Tbh there are no  real great stand out  teams in this tournament.  The more I see, the more  I dread the unthinkable might happen

Saudis look to be a big, fit outfit, well able to cover the sod, be interesting to see if they can keep this up!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 11:49:55 AM
Argentina really struggled with the  high line. Loads of goals disallowed. Great strategy by the Saudis
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 11:59:10 AM
I canít believe I believed the hype  about this Argentina team

Tbh there are no  real great stand out  teams in this tournament.  The more I see, the more  I dread the unthinkable might happen
Yeah the unthinkable probably could happen. The biggest contender (Brazil) is like England full of great attackers but not much at the back. No teams look unbeatable
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 12:04:15 PM
You would imagine that Argentina will score in Fergie time
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 22, 2022, 12:05:49 PM
This added time shit is ridiculous
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 22, 2022, 12:07:11 PM
Over 78 mins of injury time played so far in the WC. Day 3.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2022, 12:07:27 PM
Unbelievable Jeff..
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 22, 2022, 12:09:04 PM
Can't understand why they change the rules coming into a world cup, the amount of added time in the few games we seen is ridiculous given it doesn't happen in premiership or champions league.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 12:09:46 PM
Messi going to flop at yet another world cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 22, 2022, 12:10:09 PM
See the nxt time c somebody mentions Messi better than Maradona. Least he made 2 finals winning 1.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2022, 12:12:09 PM
 ::) Yes itís all Messiís fault
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 12:13:11 PM
See the nxt time c somebody mentions Messi better than Maradona. Least he made 2 finals winning 1.

At least he's up to 7 world cup goals in what.... 5 tournaments?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 22, 2022, 12:13:47 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 12:15:01 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Brazil still to play. That could well be the final assuming both teams win their group.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 22, 2022, 12:18:12 PM
With only two per group, Argentina will need to win next two to emerge from that group. Tall order with Mexico and Poland to play. Their defense is still as bad as 4 years ago.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 22, 2022, 12:18:45 PM
I canít believe I believed the hype  about this Argentina team

that was their first loss in 37 matches
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 22, 2022, 12:19:19 PM
Early but Argentina looked brutal, might take a while for some teams to get going (if they get out of their group) most nations have only had a week or so together before the WC
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 12:19:29 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!
Brazil, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Croatia, Denmark, Portugal, Uruguay. Surely someone from that lot will do the business.

Reckon Denmark could do really well, they were impressive at the last Euros and have Eriksen back.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 12:20:06 PM
Very messy
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 12:20:16 PM
Early but Argentina looked brutal, might take a while for some teams to get going (if they get out of their group) most nations have only had a week or so together before the WC
Yeah thats bound to have an effect.

Argentina should still top the group
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 12:24:43 PM
https://twitter.com/leerobson23/status/1595027206560157696?s=48&t=2vcb74UQQDyXFCcRom1tRA (https://twitter.com/leerobson23/status/1595027206560157696?s=48&t=2vcb74UQQDyXFCcRom1tRA)

 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gael80 on November 22, 2022, 12:24:57 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Argentina were on a good run and there'll always be Messi hype. However in reality South Amercian football isn't the strongest and it'll be shown at a world cup.

This WC will be decided by a mini Euro's at the end of the tournament, my prediction is four European semi finalists again, then it's a lottery from there.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 22, 2022, 12:26:02 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Brazil still to play. That could well be the final assuming both teams win their group.

You want England out long  before the final

Their route will likely be Senegal or Ecuador , then probably France. But they have Benzema Pogba Kante out. I donít think   France are any big shakes especially without those 3.

I canít  enjoy a tournament until those  backstards are out
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Sportacus on November 22, 2022, 12:27:13 PM
I havenít seen those levels of fitness since Liverpool won the league.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: toby47 on November 22, 2022, 12:28:24 PM
Let's not get carried away. Saudi scored with both of their only 2 shots on target, they only had 3 shots in total.

Argentina had 3 goals disallowed and a shot cleared off the line. And 70% possession.

Saudi done great firing bodies in front of everything to hold out, but you'd think they outplayed Argentina the way some are going on.

The main point, as stated above by someone, there are no overall brilliant teams in the tournament. Hopefully someone can take England out sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 12:28:38 PM
I havenít seen those levels of fitness since Liverpool won the league.
Inhalers?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 12:29:46 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Argentina were on a good run and there'll always be Messi hype. However in reality South Amercian football isn't the strongest and it'll be shown at a world cup.

This WC will be decided by a mini Euro's at the end of the tournament, my prediction is four European semi finalists again, then it's a lottery from there.
Brazil have a serious attack wouldnít bet against them. No one really stands out though and there are always shocks.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2022, 12:30:44 PM
Manchester United have just bid Ä5 billion for entire Saudi squad.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 12:32:05 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Brazil still to play. That could well be the final assuming both teams win their group.

You want England out long  before the final

Their route will likely be Senegal or Ecuador , then probably France. But they have Benzema Pogba Kante out. I donít think   France are any big shakes especially without those 3.

I canít  enjoy a tournament until those  backstards are out
Why do you hate France ?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 22, 2022, 12:36:49 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Brazil still to play. That could well be the final assuming both teams win their group.

You want England out long  before the final

Their route will likely be Senegal or Ecuador , then probably France. But they have Benzema Pogba Kante out. I donít think   France are any big shakes especially without those 3.

I canít  enjoy a tournament until those  backstards are out
Why do you hate France ?

Iím talking about  England.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 12:44:27 PM
Argentina haven't won the World Cup since 1986. It's a long time ago.  Since then France have won 2
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 22, 2022, 12:46:51 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!
Brazil, France, Germany, Spain, Holland, Croatia, Denmark, Portugal, Uruguay. Surely someone from that lot will do the business.

Reckon Denmark could do really well, they were impressive at the last Euros and have Eriksen back.

It's a shame that Norn Iron played their asses off to stop Italy from automatically qualifying because if the Italians were there I would trust them to sort England out.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 12:49:18 PM
Argentina haven't won the World Cup since 1986. It's a long time ago.  Since then France have won 2

As have Brazil and Germany. Argentina are the perennial underachievers of the modern game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: tintin25 on November 22, 2022, 01:10:18 PM
Hope England win it
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
Argentina haven't won the World Cup since 1986. It's a long time ago.  Since then France have won 2

As have Brazil and Germany. Argentina are the perennial underachievers of the modern game.
Even Spain won. Younger  readers may find it hard to believe that Spain were the perennial chokers of international tournaments until tiki taka.
Argentina lost 2 finals as well.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2022, 01:19:30 PM
Great wee game so far
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 22, 2022, 02:43:36 PM
Jeez there's no one we can rely on to beat England!

Argentina were on a good run and there'll always be Messi hype. However in reality South Amercian football isn't the strongest and it'll be shown at a world cup.

This WC will be decided by a mini Euro's at the end of the tournament, my prediction is four European semi finalists again, then it's a lottery from there.
Brazil have a serious attack wouldnít bet against them. No one really stands out though and there are always shocks.

Brazils attack isn't that great and is definitely not comparable to recent ones.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on November 22, 2022, 03:12:28 PM
That's the kick up the backside the Argentinians need. Unbeaten to the final now.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 03:14:39 PM
That's the kick up the backside the Argentinians need. Unbeaten to the final now.
Spain 2010 all over again
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 22, 2022, 03:39:03 PM
Bad news lads, I can see England making the final, they good enough team outside of a slow maguire. If they win it, we don't live far enough away and hear about it for the next 20yrs.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 22, 2022, 03:44:42 PM
Bad news lads, I can see England making the final, they good enough team outside of a slow maguire. If they win it, we don't live far enough away and hear about it for the next 20yrs.

If they win it then I'll be dead before the hype dies down if 66 is anything to go by
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2022, 03:48:30 PM
Argentina weren't that great when winning last years Copa America, stumbled over the line against Brazil in a low quality final and Colombia in the semi final on penalties in their last two matches yet it seems the hype they got from that trophy win has got to their heads.

Looks like England's World Cup to lose however with Southgate as manager they could be left disappointed again.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 22, 2022, 03:54:00 PM
They wonít win, for the same reason they backed down on their arm band protest. You either have guts or you havenít. They will eventually serve up a feeble performance like the Euro final against Italy. As always a few jammy  decisions will go their way and insufferable bollockes like Piers Morgan will be tweeting itís coming home. It will prove great entertainment in the end with Grealish or ĎArry blasting a peno up to Row Z as a gang of Arab shieks scamper out of the way.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 22, 2022, 03:59:59 PM
Argentina weren't that great when winning last years Copa America, stumbled over the line against Brazil in a low quality final and Colombia in the semi final on penalties in their last two matches yet it seems the hype they got from that trophy win has got to their heads.

Looks like England's World Cup to lose however with Southgate as manager they could be left disappointed again.

Jesus chill out
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 22, 2022, 04:00:29 PM
They wonít win, for the same reason they backed down on their arm band protest. You either have guts or you havenít. They will eventually serve up a feeble performance like the Euro final against Italy. As always a few jammy  decisions will go their way and insufferable bollockes like Piers Morgan will be tweeting itís coming home. It will prove great entertainment in the end with Grealish or ĎArry blasting a peno up to Row Z as a gang of Arab shieks scamper out of the way.
Theyíre soccer players guts are few and far between and that goes for nearly all countries
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 22, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
I'm hoping as soon as they play anyone half decent Southgate will revert to type and have all his defensive midfielders on to cover his dodgy centre backs effectively putting a handbrake on the team and hopefully screwing up another great chance for them. Southgate is a spoofer and if they fail this time they will look back in years to come at 2018/20/22 tournaments as real missed chances
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 22, 2022, 04:03:36 PM
Mad isnít it.

Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil - who between them have won 7 out of the last 8 world cups - havenít yet kicked a ball. Serious football teams like Portugal, Belgium, Uruguay havenít yet kicked a ball.

But here itís Englandís to lose.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2022, 04:10:16 PM
Mad isnít it.

Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil - who between them have won 7 out of the last 8 world cups - havenít yet kicked a ball. Serious football teams like Portugal, Belgium, Uruguay havenít yet kicked a ball.

But here itís Englandís to lose.

If Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil was near the quality that they were when winning those tournaments you might have a decent argument.

Portugal are nothing serious going by their recent matches against a very average Irish team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 22, 2022, 04:21:03 PM
Mad isnít it.

Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil - who between them have won 7 out of the last 8 world cups - havenít yet kicked a ball. Serious football teams like Portugal, Belgium, Uruguay havenít yet kicked a ball.

But here itís Englandís to lose.

If Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil was near the quality that they were when winning those tournaments you might have a decent argument.

Portugal are nothing serious going by their recent matches against a very average Irish team.

Letís wait and see sure
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 22, 2022, 04:25:02 PM
Mad isnít it.

Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil - who between them have won 7 out of the last 8 world cups - havenít yet kicked a ball. Serious football teams like Portugal, Belgium, Uruguay havenít yet kicked a ball.

But here itís Englandís to lose.

If Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil was near the quality that they were when winning those tournaments you might have a decent argument.

Portugal are nothing serious going by their recent matches against a very average Irish team.

And Englandís form until running into a lower tier opponent yesterday, was shocking too.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 04:29:15 PM
First round form doesn't mean much. Senior hurling starts in the second round.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 22, 2022, 05:00:08 PM
Argentina weren't that great when winning last years Copa America, stumbled over the line against Brazil in a low quality final and Colombia in the semi final on penalties in their last two matches yet it seems the hype they got from that trophy win has got to their heads.

Looks like England's World Cup to lose however with Southgate as manager they could be left disappointed again.
Good man  ;D
Covering all bases there, if England win it you were right, if they donít you can blame Southgate and still come back here and tell us all you were right !
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: screenexile on November 22, 2022, 05:15:07 PM
Definite pen you can't have a hold of someone's shirt like that in the box!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2022, 05:18:28 PM
The Mexican crowd sure enjoyed that penalty miss/save.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2022, 05:20:20 PM
Definite pen you can't have a hold of someone's shirt like that in the box!
Clear peno, Ray Houghton still arguing it wasnít.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 22, 2022, 05:55:14 PM
Jorge Campos keeping Mexico in the game
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 22, 2022, 06:19:31 PM
The Cantwell doesn't interrupt these soccer boys anywhere near as much as she does our GAA pundits.

Sheís almost bearable here.

Almost.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 22, 2022, 07:35:59 PM
https://twitter.com/gombeen1/status/1595112542850125824?s=46&t=ULhz1tk-X2FxpyVTgppO2A (https://twitter.com/gombeen1/status/1595112542850125824?s=46&t=ULhz1tk-X2FxpyVTgppO2A)

World Cup/Tyrone club thread crossover meme.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 08:26:24 PM
The Cantwell doesn't interrupt these soccer boys anywhere near as much as she does our GAA pundits.

Sheís almost bearable here.

Almost.
She doesn't know as much about soccer as she does about Gah.
I don't remember Michael Lyster doing soccer.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2022, 08:31:26 PM
Liverpoolís Mbappe with the 3rd goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 22, 2022, 08:36:03 PM
Giroud gets the 4th. Mbappe cross
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 22, 2022, 09:25:02 PM
Mad isnít it.

Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil - who between them have won 7 out of the last 8 world cups - havenít yet kicked a ball. Serious football teams like Portugal, Belgium, Uruguay havenít yet kicked a ball.

But here itís Englandís to lose.

If Germany, Spain,  France, Brazil was near the quality that they were when winning those tournaments you might have a decent argument.

Portugal are nothing serious going by their recent matches against a very average Irish team.

And Englandís form until running into a lower tier opponent yesterday, was shocking too.

Iran are 20th in the world.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 22, 2022, 09:33:49 PM
Yeah but world rankings currently need a context (they always do, but more so again since Covid). They were 37th ranked going into the last World Cup, and havenít played a European team since thenÖ until they met England
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 23, 2022, 12:29:56 AM
Doesn't interurpt as she knows damn all about soccer, so best say nothing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 09:21:37 AM
Some complaining about the time added during the games lately, Keith Hackett saying the ref's are just making it up!!

But on average in the PL they play only 55 minutes of actual football, and Hackett on saying that players will become fatigued and that will either cause injuries or mistimed tackles, if they are actually only running around for 55 minutes they shouldn't really be tired!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 23, 2022, 09:25:05 AM
Some complaining about the time added during the games lately, Keith Hackett saying the ref's are just making it up!!

But on average in the PL they play only 55 minutes of actual football, and Hackett on saying that players will become fatigued and that will either cause injuries or mistimed tackles, if they are actually only running around for 55 minutes they shouldn't really be tired!
Would love to see how much time the ball is actually in play in a football/hurling match as well just to compare.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on November 23, 2022, 09:30:33 AM
Some complaining about the time added during the games lately, Keith Hackett saying the ref's are just making it up!!

But on average in the PL they play only 55 minutes of actual football, and Hackett on saying that players will become fatigued and that will either cause injuries or mistimed tackles, if they are actually only running around for 55 minutes they shouldn't really be tired!

The time that should be added never gets added. If it did be there all day but it also might nip the time wasting in the bud.

if the right amount of time were added I think your club might have 2 AIs for you got beat by a point in a game that was one of the biggest displays of time wasting I've ever seen!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 09:38:45 AM
Some complaining about the time added during the games lately, Keith Hackett saying the ref's are just making it up!!

But on average in the PL they play only 55 minutes of actual football, and Hackett on saying that players will become fatigued and that will either cause injuries or mistimed tackles, if they are actually only running around for 55 minutes they shouldn't really be tired!

The time that should be added never gets added. If it did be there all day but it also might nip the time wasting in the bud.

if the right amount of time were added I think your club might have 2 AIs for you got beat by a point in a game that was one of the biggest displays of time wasting I've ever seen!

Aye it's a curse TBH, but I feel the ref's should be stopping their watches like they do in Rugby, its simple enough to employ at these grounds, one less duty for them to worry about and taken out of their hands.

I've two people doing clock duty with me at games, I raise my hand and visually show me stopping the watch, and do it again when play resumes, they'll remind me also to restart my watch just in case, when my watch is in the 30th minute that's time up, on the big clock at the pitch that could be saying 36.40 minutes though, If there was no taking the piss the game would end on 30 minutes each half.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 23, 2022, 09:41:04 AM
Adding time on is just another futile attempt to make football ďperfectĒ which will inevitably lead to lore problems than it solves.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 09:47:11 AM
Adding time on is just another futile attempt to make football ďperfectĒ which will inevitably lead to lore problems than it solves.

So don't add time on?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on November 23, 2022, 10:11:58 AM
Liverpoolís Mbappe with the 3rd goal.

Liverpools Konate (a very decent player) is fit, that's the biggest surprise.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 23, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
Adding time on is just another futile attempt to make football ďperfectĒ which will inevitably lead to lore problems than it solves.

So don't add time on?

Not so much that, so much as just donít try to pretend that injuries and stoppages arenít part of a football match. The halves are longer (at 45 mins) than any other sport for a reason: it allows for the ball not being in play.

Obviously an unusually long stoppage needs to be catered for. And a few extra minutes here and there for shithousery seems fair. But whacking back on 10 mins over 45 mins in a normal game of football? No f**k that. No need.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 10:54:08 AM
Adding time on is just another futile attempt to make football ďperfectĒ which will inevitably lead to lore problems than it solves.

So don't add time on?

Not so much that, so much as just donít try to pretend that injuries and stoppages arenít part of a football match. The halves are longer (at 45 mins) than any other sport for a reason: it allows for the ball not being in play.

Obviously an unusually long stoppage needs to be catered for. And a few extra minutes here and there for shithousery seems fair. But whacking back on 10 mins over 45 mins in a normal game of football? No f**k that. No need.

Yeah, somewhere in between, ball out of play that's part of the game providing there isn't someone taking the piss on that side of things, can't imagine too many games when Celtic play that there is much stoppages with how they speed things up for sidelines and so on
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thebigfella on November 23, 2022, 11:00:27 AM
Adding time on is just another futile attempt to make football ďperfectĒ which will inevitably lead to lore problems than it solves.

So don't add time on?

Not so much that, so much as just donít try to pretend that injuries and stoppages arenít part of a football match. The halves are longer (at 45 mins) than any other sport for a reason: it allows for the ball not being in play.

Obviously an unusually long stoppage needs to be catered for. And a few extra minutes here and there for shithousery seems fair. But whacking back on 10 mins over 45 mins in a normal game of football? No f**k that. No need.

The direction given to refs is around 30sec per substitution but up to the ref's judgement too. With the possibility of 10 subs per match, you could have around 5 mins added time before injuries etc. are taken into account.

Most of the games where there was extra long stoppage time also had players down for head injuries too. Those were easily 3/4 min stoppages.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 23, 2022, 11:06:04 AM
Adding time on is just another futile attempt to make football ďperfectĒ which will inevitably lead to lore problems than it solves.

So don't add time on?

Not so much that, so much as just donít try to pretend that injuries and stoppages arenít part of a football match. The halves are longer (at 45 mins) than any other sport for a reason: it allows for the ball not being in play.

Obviously an unusually long stoppage needs to be catered for. And a few extra minutes here and there for shithousery seems fair. But whacking back on 10 mins over 45 mins in a normal game of football? No f**k that. No need.

The direction given to refs is around 30sec per substitution but up to the ref's judgement too. With the possibility of 10 subs per match, you could have around 5 mins added time before injuries etc. are taken into account.

Most of the games where there was extra long stoppage time also had players down for head injuries too. Those were easily 3/4 min stoppages.
Is that not changed now that there are only 3 substitution windows allowed?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 23, 2022, 11:38:21 AM
Anyhow some context why football isnít ďperfectĒ and trying to achieve that state, causes more problems than it solves.

Watching Spurs recently. Canít remember which game, but it was about 7-8 minutes to go and Spurs are trailing by a goal. A Spurs attacker gets cleaned out 25m from goal.

As is the ďfootball wayĒ, he rolled around for 30 secs to see if he could influence a booking. Then he spent at least a minute with the physio, to prove to everyone how hurt he was. Itís only after heís up in his feet that the referee gets things going again, and the opposition start setting up their wall. The really odd thing is that itís only then that Spursí dead ball specialists gather together to decide whoís hitting it. Then thereís 30 seconds of the anointed one placing the ball, taking the required number of steps, and a completely unnecessary number of deep breaths.

óó

Anyone who follows Spurs knows that they score about one direct free kick every three seasons.

Yet the team still spent over half the remaining time on this ďchanceĒ. When if they had even a titter of wit, theyíd have as quickly as possible used this opportunity to try to force a corner (which Spurs are good at).

óó

This isnít a story about Spurs. Itís a story about football.

Every team wastes their own time, both knowingly and unknowingly, throughout a match.

Adding on a bundle more time isnít a solution. Itís just another stick to beat the referee with.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 23, 2022, 02:40:05 PM
Germany just about hanging on here.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 23, 2022, 02:44:51 PM
Germany just about hanging on here.

Down 2-1 now. It was coming.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: toby47 on November 23, 2022, 02:46:34 PM
Germany just about hanging on here.

Down 2-1 now. It was coming.

That was some touch & finish
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 23, 2022, 02:47:04 PM
Germany just about hanging on here.

Was doing a bit of work, watched a bit and it was 2-0? flicked on now and its 2-1 Japan !!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 23, 2022, 02:47:17 PM
Wow
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: toby47 on November 23, 2022, 02:50:13 PM
Germany just about hanging on here.

Was doing a bit of work, watched a bit and it was 2-0? flicked on now and its 2-1 Japan !!

Don't kid a kidder MR2
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 23, 2022, 03:26:35 PM
So far the majority of the games seem to be boring as watching paint dry nil nils and David taking down Goliath
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 23, 2022, 03:28:36 PM
Japan would have always been a fairly decent side would they not? And Germany not the team they were as seen by England beating them at the euros. Still a surprise but not a massive shock.

Early days yet of course
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 23, 2022, 03:53:07 PM

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 23, 2022, 04:54:10 PM
Germany a bit like Argentina paid the price for not converting dominance into goals.  Having said that, Germany look an average enough side, they've no decent strikers.  They're up shit creek now with Spain in that group.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 23, 2022, 04:57:50 PM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 23, 2022, 05:37:16 PM
Spain looking good, a shame for them England already have it won according to the experts on here.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 23, 2022, 05:48:02 PM
Germany will  have to beat spain then hope other teams do them favours may even come to goal difference so germany may have to try and get a lot of goals against costa rica.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 23, 2022, 06:04:14 PM
Germany will  have to beat spain then hope other teams do them favours may even come to goal difference so germany may have to try and get a lot of goals against costa rica.
if they beat Spain and other games go as expected then itíll go down to goal difference if Japan, Spain and ze Germans all have 2 wins each.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 23, 2022, 06:18:53 PM
three teams with 6 points it could be.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 23, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
The group of death really is going to be the group of death.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 23, 2022, 07:31:40 PM
Were Canada done out of a 2nd penalty shortly after the first?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 23, 2022, 07:32:16 PM
Were Canada done out of a 2nd penalty shortly after the first?

Think it was offside
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 23, 2022, 07:50:26 PM
It wasn't offside as the defender played the ball back, not a Canadian player.  Thought it was a pen myself but slow mo showed a touch from the defender before he nicked the striker
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 23, 2022, 09:10:05 PM
Belgium's defence will hold them back.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 23, 2022, 10:08:43 PM
Can't believe Aldeweireld and Vertonghen are still at the back  crazy.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 23, 2022, 10:21:56 PM
Offaly jersey in the background for the replay of Belgium handball.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: screenexile on November 23, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
If Canada had a striker theyíd have won that.

So good until the final third and while the quality of their defending wasnít great you couldnít fault them for effort. Disappointing for them but if they can keep playing like that they have a chance to qualify.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on November 23, 2022, 10:51:36 PM
Hard to qualify if you can't score.  On today's evidence, I'd be a bit surprised if they get a goal, despite playing some very nice ball elsewhere on the pitch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 24, 2022, 06:48:20 AM
Hard to qualify if you can't score.  On today's evidence, I'd be a bit surprised if they get a goal, despite playing some very nice ball elsewhere on the pitch.
You must have been watching it on a different pitch from me. What I saw was akin to an early under 14 match interspersed with lads who primarily played GAA. Ball being hoofed around and no real skill or panache. An absolutely dreadful game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 07:36:50 AM
Hard to qualify if you can't score.  On today's evidence, I'd be a bit surprised if they get a goal, despite playing some very nice ball elsewhere on the pitch.
At least our midfielders can score
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 24, 2022, 11:21:03 AM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 11:23:28 AM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.
if they were more worried about football than politics theyíd be some team
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: NAG1 on November 24, 2022, 11:33:00 AM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.
if they were more worried about football than politics theyíd be some team

Merely reflecting the mood of the German population at home, massive boycotts and ill feeling about the World Cup in general.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thebigfella on November 24, 2022, 11:39:32 AM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.

The Iranian team pulled a similar stuff with the national anthem and don't look foolish  ::)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 11:42:15 AM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.
if they were more worried about football than politics theyíd be some team

Merely reflecting the mood of the German population at home, massive boycotts and ill feeling about the World Cup in general.
Clowns. Same as Keane and the rest. If you care that much stay at home.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 11:48:00 AM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.

The Iranian team pulled a similar stuff with the national anthem and don't look foolish  ::)
Different issue. And who expected them to win anyway lol
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 24, 2022, 12:16:57 PM
The Iranian team pulled a similar stuff with the national anthem and don't look foolish  ::)
Different issue. And who expected them to win anyway lol

Exactly!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 24, 2022, 12:17:41 PM



Did the Germans get a premonition about the final score?

when you pull a stunt like that you have to make bloody sure you win the game or else you look foolish.
if they were more worried about football than politics theyíd be some team

Merely reflecting the mood of the German population at home, massive boycotts and ill feeling about the World Cup in general.

Yet they've still travelled in their thousands.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 24, 2022, 01:13:45 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 01:15:14 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.

These are the best teams in the world, Costa Rica are 31st, so to use The Republic as a team ranked 49th for example, would Spain have knocked in 10 past the Irish team? Iran were 20th btw
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gael80 on November 24, 2022, 01:30:02 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.

Same, a chance for them to send Germany home on Sunday, not the best German side but I'm sure Spain and a few other teams would be glad to see them out of the competition early.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 01:37:24 PM
South Korea are playing well and missed a golden chance to go one up!

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 02:08:17 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.

Same, a chance for them to send Germany home on Sunday, not the best German side but I'm sure Spain and a few other teams would be glad to see them out of the competition early.
Probably not England though as theyíre the only big team theyíve beaten in years!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Sportacus on November 24, 2022, 02:10:33 PM
The pattern so far seems to be the young super fit teams are running/pressing the older teams off the pitch.  Canada run Belgium off the park. Iran all over Argentina.  Etc.  the last 16 looks like it will have a few teams who we havenít been paying attention to.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 03:22:07 PM
Uruguay (2010) and Belgium (2018) both got to the semi finals previously but haven't had many personnel changes
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 24, 2022, 03:30:59 PM
The pattern so far seems to be the young super fit teams are running/pressing the older teams off the pitch.  Canada run Belgium off the park. Iran all over Argentina.  Etc.  the last 16 looks like it will have a few teams who we havenít been paying attention to.
Thatís the concern, which would make it easier for  England to  Ďslippy tití it into the final
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on November 24, 2022, 03:42:04 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.

These are the best teams in the world, Costa Rica are 31st, so to use The Republic as a team ranked 49th for example, would Spain have knocked in 10 past the Irish team? Iran were 20th btw

Rankings are flawed. Teams are rarely playing other teams from outside their own confederation. How can we accurately rank Iran when they've been mostly playing Lebanon, Syria, Bahrain, Cambodia? Not Iran's fault of course. But they would have little chance of qualifying from UEFA.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 04:05:05 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.

These are the best teams in the world, Costa Rica are 31st, so to use The Republic as a team ranked 49th for example, would Spain have knocked in 10 past the Irish team? Iran were 20th btw

Rankings are flawed. Teams are rarely playing other teams from outside their own confederation. How can we accurately rank Iran when they've been mostly playing Lebanon, Syria, Bahrain, Cambodia? Not Iran's fault of course. But they would have little chance of qualifying from UEFA.
Theres no way any of those teams are anywhere near as good as Italy. Whole qualifying system is flawed. Ireland as bad as they are would be on similar level to these.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 04:05:55 PM
Also any system that has that bang average Belgian team at or near the top for a good few years now has to be questioned.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 04:14:51 PM
Its why FIFA have it so wrong, they should in all fairness pop into the GAABOARD and get the low down on things from Joe Soap and rearrange the way they rank teams!!

Are we looking an open qualification system worldwide? Would be great, travel wise though a nightmare but sure if it sorts out the rankings
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 24, 2022, 04:24:17 PM
Some bad games the last couple of days

This Portugal Ghana game following suit
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 04:28:07 PM
Still early days but Belgium won't stop many good teams with that defence.  Apparently De Bruyne got man of the match?  I thought he was brutal.

Spain were sensational but they were playing The Dog & Duck.

Will be interesting to see what Brazil have.
He more or less came out and said he shouldnít have got it. France defence looked ropey against the Aussies at times as well. Looking forward to seeing Spain against a half decent team.

These are the best teams in the world, Costa Rica are 31st, so to use The Republic as a team ranked 49th for example, would Spain have knocked in 10 past the Irish team? Iran were 20th btw

Rankings are flawed. Teams are rarely playing other teams from outside their own confederation. How can we accurately rank Iran when they've been mostly playing Lebanon, Syria, Bahrain, Cambodia? Not Iran's fault of course. But they would have little chance of qualifying from UEFA.
It's a bit like the Ulster Football Championship
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 04:32:44 PM
Its why FIFA have it so wrong, they should in all fairness pop into the GAABOARD and get the low down on things from Joe Soap and rearrange the way they rank teams!!

Are we looking an open qualification system worldwide? Would be great, travel wise though a nightmare but sure if it sorts out the rankings
Itís due to covid restricting the amount teams were playing teams from outside their own confederation- Iran would be fairly strong in theirs hence their inflated ranking but would be no be nowhere near the level of a decent European team. Of course you already knew that and decided to be a smart arse anyway lol.

Seen an FA cup style knockout tournament with every country involved mentioned somewhere, would never happen though but would be interesting!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on November 24, 2022, 04:40:01 PM
Its why FIFA have it so wrong, they should in all fairness pop into the GAABOARD and get the low down on things from Joe Soap and rearrange the way they rank teams!!

Are we looking an open qualification system worldwide? Would be great, travel wise though a nightmare but sure if it sorts out the rankings
Itís due to covid restricting the amount teams were playing teams from outside their own confederation- Iran would be fairly strong in theirs hence their inflated ranking but would be no be nowhere near the level of a decent European team. Of course you already knew that and decided to be a smart arse anyway lol.

Seen an FA cup style knockout tournament with every country involved mentioned somewhere, would never happen though but would be interesting!

Not just Covid. Also Nations League , which means UEFA nations no longer playing many friendlies.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
32 teams is another problem. There were 24 in 1982
It's the Super 8s thing. There weren't 8 Super teams and there aren't 32 decent teams to play the World Cup wither
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on November 24, 2022, 04:46:23 PM
32 teams is another problem. There were 24 in 1982
It's the Super 8s thing. There weren't 8 Super teams and there aren't 32 decent teams to play the World Cup wither

48 next time. Just 16 (I think) from UEFA though.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 04:54:48 PM
32 teams is another problem. There were 24 in 1982
It's the Super 8s thing. There weren't 8 Super teams and there aren't 32 decent teams to play the World Cup wither

48 next time. Just 16 (I think) from UEFA though.
How many from UEFA this time?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 24, 2022, 04:57:49 PM
good for those betting on unders
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on November 24, 2022, 04:58:04 PM
32 teams is another problem. There were 24 in 1982
It's the Super 8s thing. There weren't 8 Super teams and there aren't 32 decent teams to play the World Cup wither

48 next time. Just 16 (I think) from UEFA though.
How many from UEFA this time?

13.
So reducing as overall percentage
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 24, 2022, 05:19:34 PM
Good to see Chris Hughton there. Ghana are solid.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2022, 05:20:42 PM
Some dive from Ronaldo there
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Post by: weareros on November 24, 2022, 05:23:04 PM
Soft peno alright.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on November 24, 2022, 05:24:07 PM
I can see why they gave it but not a penalty for me. Ronaldo won it with the dive.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on November 24, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
Some dive from Ronaldo there
just Ronaldo being Ronaldo
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 24, 2022, 05:26:02 PM
32 teams is another problem. There were 24 in 1982
It's the Super 8s thing. There weren't 8 Super teams and there aren't 32 decent teams to play the World Cup wither

48 next time. Just 16 (I think) from UEFA though.

48 teams is an abomination.

That probably means a round of 32 after the group stages.  An absolute farce

Fifa donít give a shite about the amount of games players have to play  nor the expense for fans.  Tv deals , ticket salesand sponsorship money  etc is all that matters to that corrupt  lot
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 05:26:15 PM
GOAT
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 05:27:17 PM
Its why FIFA have it so wrong, they should in all fairness pop into the GAABOARD and get the low down on things from Joe Soap and rearrange the way they rank teams!!

Are we looking an open qualification system worldwide? Would be great, travel wise though a nightmare but sure if it sorts out the rankings
Itís due to covid restricting the amount teams were playing teams from outside their own confederation- Iran would be fairly strong in theirs hence their inflated ranking but would be no be nowhere near the level of a decent European team. Of course you already knew that and decided to be a smart arse anyway lol.

Seen an FA cup style knockout tournament with every country involved mentioned somewhere, would never happen though but would be interesting!

The Japs beat Germany The Saudis bate Argentina, South Korea drew with Uruguay, youíre right the rankings are flawed
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 05:27:53 PM
Some dive from Ronaldo there
just Ronaldo being Ronaldo

Haters going to hate
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 05:32:42 PM
Sounds like it's a function for FIFA of  where the money is. More Asian teams would indicate this.
FIFA is very like the IOC
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 05:34:29 PM
32 teams is another problem. There were 24 in 1982
It's the Super 8s thing. There weren't 8 Super teams and there aren't 32 decent teams to play the World Cup wither

48 next time. Just 16 (I think) from UEFA though.

48 teams is an abomination.

That probably means a round of 32 after the group stages.  An absolute farce

Fifa donít give a shite about the amount of games players have to play  nor the expense for fans.  Tv deals , ticket salesand sponsorship money  etc is all that matters to that corrupt  lot
32 is already suboptimal. Maybe FIFA are aiming to emulate UEFA and half of the world at the World Cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 05:39:36 PM
Cracking goal for Ghana
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 05:48:26 PM
That left side of Portugals is a bit like some other teams left side in the PL
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 24, 2022, 06:02:02 PM
Portugal goalkeeper Costa a lucky boy, a slip away from that game finishing 3-3.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 06:57:02 PM
The World Cup shows the FAI's problem. Portugal have 3 players at Man City. Switzerland has one. Ghana have a few Premiership players.
Back in the good old days Liverpool drew their playing base from the UK and Ireland.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 07:19:31 PM
That Neymar fella would annoy you. Some talent but probably the worst diver ever
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 24, 2022, 07:26:00 PM
That Neymar fella would annoy you. Some talent but probably the worst diver ever

Hateful wee shite. He was the reason I wanted Brazil beat last time , and same reason this time

Iím sure most people can  picture a hateful wee toerag from their locality . You know the one, the boy who  anytime you see him , you want to stick your boot up his hole. Thatís neymar
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 07:30:36 PM
That Neymar fella would annoy you. Some talent but probably the worst diver ever

Hateful wee shite. He was the reason I wanted Brazil beat last time , and same reason this time

Iím sure most people can  picture a hateful wee toerag from their locality . You know the one, the boy who  anytime you see him , you want to stick your boot up his hole. Thatís neymar
Agreed. The other Brazillians probably likeable enough, Silva and Casemiro two class acts and Vinicius Jr is electric to watch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 24, 2022, 07:42:55 PM
It's not the diving. It's all the rolling once he hits the ground, He puts Jurgen to shame in that dept.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 07:49:07 PM
Brazil not looking spectacular so far. 1 minute must be the least added time yet!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 24, 2022, 07:51:52 PM
Couldn't be great with their centre forward, doesn't even stand out at Everton, look at the forwards then had, then look at him.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 24, 2022, 08:14:59 PM
They're gonna choke again, aren't they.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 24, 2022, 08:21:07 PM
Last 2 posts aged well 😃
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2022, 08:22:02 PM
Couldn't be great with their centre forward, doesn't even stand out at Everton, look at the forwards then had, then look at him.
He plays for SpursÖ..
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: 03,05,08 on November 24, 2022, 08:22:36 PM
Couldn't be great with their centre forward, doesn't even stand out at Everton, look at the forwards then had, then look at him.

Good call
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 24, 2022, 08:23:10 PM
Couldn't be great with their centre forward, doesn't even stand out at Everton, look at the forwards then had, then look at him.
He plays for SpursÖ..

Would be hard enough for him to stand out at Everton alright
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 24, 2022, 08:30:56 PM
Last 2 posts aged well 😃

Aye 1-0 up against Serbia. #NameOnTheTrophy  ;D
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Post by: weareros on November 24, 2022, 08:31:28 PM
Class goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 24, 2022, 08:31:37 PM
What do you think now Wildweasel74
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 08:31:40 PM
Couldn't be great with their centre forward, doesn't even stand out at Everton, look at the forwards then had, then look at him.

Good call

And another lol
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 24, 2022, 08:32:50 PM
I stand correctly, lol, forgot he moved from Everton.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 24, 2022, 08:35:12 PM
He's not too bad at Tottenham. He knows how to score. Does he have any Irish grandparents?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 24, 2022, 08:36:19 PM
kiss of death weasel lol. In fairness i dont overly rate him but heard earlier hes a good record for brazil, i had thought earlier hes there to do lot of donkey work to allow vinicius and neymar more room and if he gets the odd one all the better
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 08:37:15 PM
Some amount of PL players on that Brazil team
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: 03,05,08 on November 24, 2022, 08:38:33 PM
Brazil and England the pick of the teams thus far
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2022, 08:40:02 PM
Brazil and England the pick of the teams thus far
Spain? France?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 24, 2022, 08:41:04 PM
Brazil the best team after all the first round games. They are so dangerous going forward, and the strength in depth is impressive

Serbia no mugs either
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Post by: Captain Obvious on November 24, 2022, 08:43:40 PM
He's not too bad at Tottenham. He knows how to score. Does he have any Irish grandparents?
Has scored as many goals for Brazil tonight as he has for Tottenham this season.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 24, 2022, 08:55:14 PM
Brazil and England the pick of the teams thus far
Spain? France?

Nah they were up against nothing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: toby47 on November 24, 2022, 09:04:55 PM
And England beat a brilliant Iran side
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 09:40:49 PM
Brazil and England the pick of the teams thus far
Spain? France?

Nah they were up against nothing.
France were suspect at the back against Australia, Brazil werenít great first half. Spain and England with the best performances probably but again not up against much.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 24, 2022, 10:05:07 PM
Some amount of PL players on that Brazil team
Thatís the problem. I think the Brazil 1982 team, the greatest team Iíve ever watched, had just one player playing in Europe - Falcao. Argentina 78 had only Kempes playing in Europe. All the South American flair had been taken away by the fact that their players are now playing in the Premier League. As World Cups go, and Iíve been watching since 1970, this is the worst so far. I hope it improves but thereís nothing to suggest that might be the case
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2022, 10:21:44 PM
Some amount of PL players on that Brazil team
Thatís the problem. I think the Brazil 1982 team, the greatest team Iíve ever watched, had just one player playing in Europe - Falcao. Argentina 78 had only Kempes playing in Europe. All the South American flair had been taken away by the fact that their players are now playing in the Premier League. As World Cups go, and Iíve been watching since 1970, this is the worst so far. I hope it improves but thereís nothing to suggest that might be the case

Styles will have changed due to tactics and so on, whether we like it or not the PL draws the best players due to money

8 European winners during that period youíve been watching,  3 Brazil and 2 Argentine wins for South Americans
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 24, 2022, 11:05:44 PM
Jesus folks but it's hard to watch the diving and constant play acting.  Why oh why can this not be taken out of the game?  Very simple to look at the main culprits after a game and take action.  Yes some things may be missed or be difficult to judge but many of them would be caught out
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on November 24, 2022, 11:21:50 PM
Some amount of PL players on that Brazil team
Thatís the problem. I think the Brazil 1982 team, the greatest team Iíve ever watched, had just one player playing in Europe - Falcao. Argentina 78 had only Kempes playing in Europe. All the South American flair had been taken away by the fact that their players are now playing in the Premier League. As World Cups go, and Iíve been watching since 1970, this is the worst so far. I hope it improves but thereís nothing to suggest that might be the case

Worse than Italia 90? 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 24, 2022, 11:41:20 PM
Some amount of PL players on that Brazil team
Thatís the problem. I think the Brazil 1982 team, the greatest team Iíve ever watched, had just one player playing in Europe - Falcao. Argentina 78 had only Kempes playing in Europe. All the South American flair had been taken away by the fact that their players are now playing in the Premier League. As World Cups go, and Iíve been watching since 1970, this is the worst so far. I hope it improves but thereís nothing to suggest that might be the case

Worse than Italia 90?

I started to think about all the different games there at Italia 90 and yeah it was rotten.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 24, 2022, 11:56:17 PM
In fairness we were all caught up in the whole Ireland adventure and turned a blind eye to how bad it was. But youíre right  it was pretty poor.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 25, 2022, 12:17:25 AM
In fairness we were all caught up in the whole Ireland adventure and turned a blind eye to how bad it was. But youíre right  it was pretty poor.

I absolutely loved Italia 90
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on November 25, 2022, 12:37:25 AM
Yeah, it was great fun, cos we were involved.  And then Cameroon nearly beat England.   And England lost on pennos. And Maradonna  and Germany did a rematch.  But the games themselves were pretty turgid.  They even changed the rules after to make the game more watchable.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 25, 2022, 12:43:14 AM
Yeah, it was great fun, cos we were involved.  And then Cameroon nearly beat England.   And England lost on pennos. And Maradonna  and Germany did a rematch.  But the games themselves were pretty turgid.  They even changed the rules after to make the game more watchable.
Thatís a pretty accurate synopsis I have to say. After the disappointment of losing to Italy and then England beating Cameroon the manner of Englands subsequent defeat to Germany was akin to getting stung by a nettle and finding a dock leaf
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Post by: seafoid on November 25, 2022, 05:32:38 AM
Some amount of PL players on that Brazil team
Thatís the problem. I think the Brazil 1982 team, the greatest team Iíve ever watched, had just one player playing in Europe - Falcao. Argentina 78 had only Kempes playing in Europe. All the South American flair had been taken away by the fact that their players are now playing in the Premier League. As World Cups go, and Iíve been watching since 1970, this is the worst so far. I hope it improves but thereís nothing to suggest that might be the case
The main differences between 82 are  the number of Brazilians playing in Europe, the style of play and how much the players get paid.

Between 1930 and 1970 South American teams won 5/9 tournaments.  Post 1970 they won 4/12. The confirmation ofvthe power shift was in 2014 when Germany beat Brazil 7-1:in Brazil.
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Post by: Estimator on November 25, 2022, 08:47:32 AM
In fairness we were all caught up in the whole Ireland adventure and turned a blind eye to how bad it was. But youíre right  it was pretty poor.

Copy and Paste from Wiki, doesn't make for good reading on Italia 90:

Negative tactics
The tournament generated a record low goals-per-game average and a then-record of 16 red cards were handed out. In the knockout stage, many teams played defensively for 120 minutes, with the intention of trying their luck in the penalty shoot-out, rather than risk going forward. Two exceptions were the eventual champions West Germany and hosts Italy, the only teams to win three of their four knockout matches in normal time. There were four penalty shoot-outs, a record subsequently equalled in the 2006, 2014 and 2018 tournaments. Eight matches went to extra time, a record equalled in the 2014 tournament.

Losing finalists Argentina were prime examples of this trend of cautious defensive play, choosing to do so because 3 of their best players were left off the squad due to injury. They scored only five goals in the entire tournament (a record low for a finalist). Argentina also became the first team to advance twice on penalty shoot-outs and the first team to fail to score and have a player sent off in a World Cup final.

Largely as a result of this trend FIFA introduced the back-pass rule in time for the 1994 tournament to make it harder for teams to time-waste by repeatedly passing the ball back for their goalkeepers to pick up. Three, rather than two points would be awarded for victories at future tournaments to help further encourage attacking play.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 25, 2022, 09:58:18 AM
Iran singing their anthem today, although a lot of them look reluctant doing so

Wonder have they been 'instructed' to sing
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 25, 2022, 10:01:47 AM
Iran singing their anthem today, although a lot of them look reluctant doing so

Wonder have they been 'instructed' to sing
God knows what theyve been threatened with if they refuse!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Ghost on November 25, 2022, 10:12:07 AM
Does anyone else hate the Welsh as a nation or is it just me?lol

Watched the USA game the other night and John Hartson was unbearable on commentary.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 25, 2022, 11:20:34 AM
Wales have been absolute garbage so far against a very poor team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 11:35:34 AM
Wales have been absolute garbage so far against a very poor team.

Iran have been brilliant would be my take
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 25, 2022, 11:46:17 AM
Iran should be out of sight.  Wales are a very average side.  When the WC goes to 48 teams you're going to see a lot more of these sort of teams in it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 25, 2022, 11:47:26 AM
Welsh keeper a bit lucky there...
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 25, 2022, 11:49:11 AM
Heís off now and as the commentators said it was shades of Schumacher in 82.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 25, 2022, 11:50:11 AM
Heís off now and as the commentators said it was shades of Schumacher in 82.

VAR does its job...for once.  A clear error by the ref corrected.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 25, 2022, 11:51:40 AM
Ireland  or Norn Iron would. Have put up a better show  than this dire welsh outfit

And thatís saying something because both are brutal
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 25, 2022, 12:02:40 PM
Wales have been rubbish and have got what they deserved here.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 25, 2022, 12:03:08 PM
Some performance by Iran.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 25, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
USA v Iran now could be for 2nd place in the group, could be tasty.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 25, 2022, 12:05:18 PM
Wales can have no complaints.  Iran should have scored about 6.  Bale is somewhere else.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 25, 2022, 12:08:27 PM
Wales can have no complaints.  Iran should have scored about 6.  Bale is somewhere else.

Don't think he is fit at all. Over in America on his jollies
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on November 25, 2022, 12:14:14 PM
Wales' key players are at least 2 years past being effective at this level. 2018 was the World Cup for them, but they lost at home to Ireland.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 25, 2022, 12:17:16 PM
Yeah, Ramsey looks done, no pace
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 25, 2022, 12:19:14 PM
BBC panel bordering on casual racism!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on November 25, 2022, 12:22:50 PM
Wales are finished. At Ireland's level now.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 25, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
BBC panel bordering on casual racism!

What they at? Thats just what this wc needs, its missin a bit of controversy...
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 12:27:10 PM
And England beat a brilliant Iran side

They sure did!  8)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trueblue1234 on November 25, 2022, 12:28:26 PM
Was listening to the news this morning and they were talking about how Wales were going to get their first WC win in whatever number of years. Bale on as well, and wasnít playing it down. Thought at the time, they were setting themselves up for a fall.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 25, 2022, 12:33:31 PM
BBC panel bordering on casual racism!

What they at? Thats just what this wc needs, its missin a bit of controversy...

Saying that foul play is a part of Iranian culture and then had a go at the ref cos he was from Guatemala, and with a European ref the result might have been different.  Bizarre.  Iran were way better than Wales.  They should have been concentrating on how shite Bale and Ramsay were.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: mouview on November 25, 2022, 12:38:14 PM
Wales can have no complaints.  Iran should have scored about 6.  Bale is somewhere else.

Don't think he is fit at all. Over in America on his jollies

Bale has long been mentally on the 14th fairway.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 25, 2022, 12:44:06 PM
Wales can have no complaints.  Iran should have scored about 6.  Bale is somewhere else.

Don't think he is fit at all. Over in America on his jollies

Bale has long been mentally on the 14th fairway.

I donít think thatís a fair assessment of his commitment to Wales. The only reason he has prolonged his professional career for the past few years is because he wanted to play in major finals for his country.

In terms of physical capability, his performance levels do look like someone on the verge of retirement, but as I say, his head has always been in the right place for Wales.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 01:07:44 PM
Golf. Wales. Madrid.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 25, 2022, 01:23:00 PM
Some performance by Iran.
Iran showed they were good by scoring 2 goals against England
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 25, 2022, 01:24:22 PM
Qatar are atrocious
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 25, 2022, 01:25:35 PM
Golf. Wales. Madrid.

Heís Walesí record cap holder and record goal scorer. Yet people cannot help themselves repeating that catchy line, even if itís a lie.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 25, 2022, 01:29:37 PM
Fair play to Hennessey it was a kick Jackie Chan would have been proud of
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 25, 2022, 02:34:45 PM
Some hit by the Goalkeeper.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: delgany on November 25, 2022, 03:48:36 PM
Wales got kicked all over pitch !
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 25, 2022, 04:13:23 PM
Would Wales have been any better with predator Giggs?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 25, 2022, 05:20:02 PM
Dutch living a charmed life against Ecuador.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on November 25, 2022, 05:23:28 PM
Dutch living a charmed life against Ecuador.

They need a dyke or they'll be swamped.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: joemamas on November 25, 2022, 05:27:10 PM
On a separate note, Neymar could be done, not sure if he is a diver, but he was hammered most times he got possession v Serbia.
Why don't referees see this systemic fouling and cut it out.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 25, 2022, 05:33:06 PM
On a separate note, Neymar could be done, not sure if he is a diver, but he was hammered most times he got possession v Serbia.
Why don't referees see this systemic fouling and cut it out.
Deserves all he gets that f**ker.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 25, 2022, 06:54:26 PM
Qatar become first team knocked out of (their) World Cup, less than a week after it started.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 07:18:09 PM
Unpopular opinion coming up.

I don't mind seeing England do well.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 07:26:52 PM
On a separate note, Neymar could be done, not sure if he is a diver, but he was hammered most times he got possession v Serbia.
Why don't referees see this systemic fouling and cut it out.

The player that made the first challenge on Neymar was booked 5 minutes into the game, message sent loud and clear I thought
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on November 25, 2022, 07:33:30 PM
Come on ye boys in blue.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 25, 2022, 07:34:19 PM
The US well on top so far, should be in front.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on November 25, 2022, 07:43:10 PM
The USA have had a good first half so far. They started well against Wales too. Maybe they will fall off the pace in the second half.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 25, 2022, 07:44:00 PM
Unpopular, good Job you from Tyrone, you be used to unpopular lol. Thought they look dangerous though, but poor against the, USA, England made Iran look bad, who in turn made, Wales look like pure crap. How bad are Wales. Wales probably turn round and beat England now.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 07:44:09 PM
England desperate for the half time whistle at this stage.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 25, 2022, 07:46:21 PM
What would you give the world cup out of 10 so far?  Probably 4 as its been so so
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 07:48:37 PM
What would you give the world cup out of 10 so far?  Probably 4 as its been so so

Not much more. An awful lot of boring 0-0s with a few hammerings thrown in. Portugal-Ghana probably the game of the tournament for me.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 25, 2022, 07:52:34 PM
Keane really loves, Maguire, not lol.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 25, 2022, 07:53:46 PM
Been poor, but seen plenty poor games before, I say about 5 good games you paid attention to.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thebigfella on November 25, 2022, 07:59:47 PM
What would you give the world cup out of 10 so far?  Probably 4 as its been so so

Not much more. An awful lot of boring 0-0s with a few hammerings thrown in. Portugal-Ghana probably the game of the tournament for me.

4 out of 19 games nil-nil. Hardly a lot.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 08:29:34 PM
What would you give the world cup out of 10 so far?  Probably 4 as its been so so

Not much more. An awful lot of boring 0-0s with a few hammerings thrown in. Portugal-Ghana probably the game of the tournament for me.

4 out of 19 games nil-nil. Hardly a lot.

2018 had just 1 out of 64!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 08:37:59 PM
So you are looking to win the game but bring on Henderson, heís quality at controlling the game but surely Foden would have been a better choice?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 25, 2022, 08:42:04 PM
USA have no target man. They are playing England off the park but no outlet up front. You know whatís going to happenÖ.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 25, 2022, 08:45:26 PM
England are happy with a draw to save energy for later. They have a psychological advantage over Wales anyway.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 25, 2022, 08:47:03 PM
Iran will probably beat the US. They have scorers.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 08:50:15 PM
Itís bad when Maguire has been Englandís best player, by a good margin too
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 25, 2022, 08:50:27 PM
That's a very very interesting group going into the last round. Anyone can still qualify if I'm right?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 25, 2022, 08:53:21 PM
England could be knocked out with a defeat to Wales and a positive result in U.S. v Iran. No evidence Wales can do that, but makes final round interesting.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 25, 2022, 08:54:43 PM
England poor, canít see the likes of Spain, Brazil, France being that worried about them.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 25, 2022, 08:59:02 PM
England poor, canít see the likes of Spain, Brazil, France being that worried about them.

England were gonna walk the WC according to some experts here the other day
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: charlieTully on November 25, 2022, 09:11:20 PM
Thought they were a cert tonight. Deserves me right betting on them fs.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 25, 2022, 09:14:12 PM
England such a strange outfit. They donít press. Donít maintain possession. Donít take risks. Fullbacks donít overlap. Kane seems to be always at 10 when needed at 9, and vice versa. Sterling has got be the most frustrating player a smart football could play alongside. Mount just an odd footballer.. it looks as though Garethís ďMasterplanĒ is to win a WC by set pieces, yet he leaves Grealish on the bench, a one man free kick winning machine.

Such a strange bunch. 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: lenny on November 25, 2022, 09:14:59 PM
England could be knocked out with a defeat to Wales and a positive result in U.S. v Iran. No evidence Wales can do that, but makes final round interesting.

Wales need to hammer England to put England out. Itís goal difference and not head to head if 2 teams level on points.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 09:20:01 PM
Thought they were a cert tonight. Deserves me right betting on them fs.

Back the corners, plenty in games during these tournaments
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 25, 2022, 09:26:04 PM
England poor, canít see the likes of Spain, Brazil, France being that worried about them.

England were gonna walk the WC according to some experts here the other day

This. Better off resisting giving knee jerk reactions after one match
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 25, 2022, 10:02:25 PM
England could be knocked out with a defeat to Wales and a positive result in U.S. v Iran. No evidence Wales can do that, but makes final round interesting.

Wales need to hammer England to put England out. Itís goal difference and not head to head if 2 teams level on points.

Did not know. Those goals against Iran keep England safe then. Poor tie-break rule by FIFA if two teams end up level.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: pbat on November 25, 2022, 10:03:50 PM
You'd image the Iran lads will be well up for the Yanks. Should be a cracker.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on November 25, 2022, 10:14:33 PM
You'd image the Iran lads will be well up for the Yanks. Should be a cracker.

Vanquishing the great Satan would play better at home than beating Wales, which people could not find on a map.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: square_ball on November 25, 2022, 10:24:04 PM
You have to love the English meltdown after a shite performance.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Orior on November 25, 2022, 10:29:57 PM
You have to love the English meltdown after a shite performance.

Bizarre. Some of their play was slower than pedestrian.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 25, 2022, 10:34:31 PM
Put a score on Iran/ Breatain bheag double.

"We shall overcome " . Sort of ignoring the fact we had them wee Welsh bastards here in Derry in khaki back in the day
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 25, 2022, 10:50:54 PM
Because FIFA  use overall goal difference as a tie breaking criteria before head to head the wales v England game might be a bit of a non event because u cant see wales beating England by 3 or 4 goals if it was a UEFA match wales would only need to win the game because they use head to head first. Suppose you could say wales have themselves to blame because of getting beat by Iran. i personally think head to head should be the first criteria if it was wales v England would be like a playoff to qualify.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2022, 12:42:06 AM
Put a score on Iran/ Breatain bheag double.

"We shall overcome " . Sort of ignoring the fact we had them wee Welsh bastards here in Derry in khaki back in the day

And the Scotís, I can remember their Scottish hats before they used before the helmets! Lovely fellas  ;) but sure great wee teams over there
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 26, 2022, 02:04:29 PM
Just the three women in the ITV studio  :-\
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2022, 02:05:54 PM
Just the three women in the ITV studio  :-\

Funny was just about to post the lads must be on the piss!!

Next ladies game will be all men ::)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 26, 2022, 02:36:49 PM
Allah has not answered any Saudi prayers yet. But theyíve played well and have a stylish coach in Hervť Renard. Deserve something here even if post saved them twice.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 26, 2022, 03:36:03 PM
Bar the Saudi win v Argentina  and Japan  beating Germany, the quality has been pretty  dire.

Roy Keane has been the highlight of the  World Cup for me. Especially in the England matches , where heís a perfect antidote to the  super-blinkered  English pundits. His Ďput downsí  have  been top notch
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 26, 2022, 04:16:56 PM
There has been a lot of poor crossing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 26, 2022, 05:12:41 PM
Poor Wales against Iran. At least Wales are stuffing Australia in the rugby 21 points clear with 20 mins to go what could go wrong :o
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 26, 2022, 05:41:13 PM
Bar the Saudi win v Argentina  and Japan  beating Germany, the quality has been pretty  dire.

Roy Keane has been the highlight of the  World Cup for me. Especially in the England matches , where heís a perfect antidote to the  super-blinkered  English pundits. His Ďput downsí  have  been top notch

Was the quality that great in either of those games either?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on November 26, 2022, 05:45:58 PM
Could we not get an Irish passport for thon MBappť boy on the basis of his first name?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2022, 05:47:02 PM
Well this has been a great game, hopefully keep the whingers on here happy..
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 26, 2022, 05:59:24 PM
Bar the Saudi win v Argentina  and Japan  beating Germany, the quality has been pretty  dire.

Roy Keane has been the highlight of the  World Cup for me. Especially in the England matches , where heís a perfect antidote to the  super-blinkered  English pundits. His Ďput downsí  have  been top notch

Was the quality that great in either of those games either?

Yeah true , but they was interesting at least.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: 03,05,08 on November 26, 2022, 07:06:40 PM
A lot of boys on here have the rose tinted glasses on about previous tournaments, I never recall any wc that had ding dong battles in the first two rounds
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 26, 2022, 07:20:12 PM
Good atmosphere here..coupla tasty tackles too. Promising 😃
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 26, 2022, 07:20:45 PM
True, most World Cups are all predictable enough until the knock out stages.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 26, 2022, 08:18:25 PM
Argentina need Tevez on or else theyíre  going home
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 26, 2022, 08:25:26 PM
A bit of Messi magic has lit up a dour game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 26, 2022, 08:25:40 PM
That game seriously needed some Messi magic. Awful stuff up to this.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 26, 2022, 08:28:24 PM
GOAT
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: 03,05,08 on November 26, 2022, 08:30:30 PM
GOAT

Heís playing tomorrow
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 26, 2022, 08:49:14 PM
Argentina need Tevez on or else theyíre  going home

Luckily for them they have Messi.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 26, 2022, 08:52:33 PM
Mexico/Saudi/Poland/Argentina Group still wide open.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on November 26, 2022, 09:03:56 PM
Argentina got 2 quality goals to seal the win. I think they will make it now. it should be a good game against Poland.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 26, 2022, 10:39:05 PM
Argentina got 2 quality goals to seal the win. I think they will make it now. it should be a good game against Poland.

Poland are a big physical side, who probably only need a draw. And will be playing for a draw. It will be a tough assignment for Argentina.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2022, 10:55:09 PM
Spain won the World Cup after losing to Switzerland in the first game. Social media wasn't as prevalent then.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 26, 2022, 11:32:41 PM
Spain won the World Cup after losing to Switzerland in the first game. Social media wasn't as prevalent then.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15977.750 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15977.750)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 27, 2022, 12:47:50 AM
Bunker pulls one from the archives!! 😃
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 10:46:28 AM
Engerland are 5th favourite. There aren't 8 decent teams in the competition

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/soccer/world-cup
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 11:56:02 AM
Costa Rica just beat Japan 1-0. Great result for Argentina
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 12:06:18 PM
That was truly, truly the worst game of football Iíve ever witnessed
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 27, 2022, 12:15:18 PM
Costa Rica just beat Japan 1-0. Great result for Argentina
Why? They arenít in the same group.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 27, 2022, 12:27:27 PM
Costa Rica just beat Japan 1-0. Great result for Argentina

Germany you mean
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 27, 2022, 01:25:16 PM
How do you beat Germany one day and lose to Costa Rica the next
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 02:00:56 PM
Costa Rica just beat Japan 1-0. Great result for Argentina

Germany you mean
Yeah- Argentina are a bit ahead of Germany
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 02:44:56 PM
This is an interesting ranking of the teams. Poland behind Ecuador, Iran ahead of australia. Wales 3rd last

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/soccer/world-cup/winner

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 27, 2022, 02:53:48 PM
Costa Rica just beat Japan 1-0. Great result for Argentina

Germany you mean

Yeah Germany can still qualify  even if they lose to spain
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 27, 2022, 03:05:51 PM
Those frickiní Belgians , bloody useless
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 03:06:03 PM
Great win for Morocco. That Belgian defence
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 27, 2022, 05:10:08 PM
Those frickiní Belgians , bloody useless

Who is more tactically out of their depth? Southgate or Martinez.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 05:18:07 PM
Canadian player running around with a tampon up his nose!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 27, 2022, 05:19:17 PM
Those frickiní Belgians , bloody useless

Who is more tactically out of their depth? Southgate or Martinez.

They both have to deal with squad limitation and National expectation.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 05:24:32 PM
Surely Martinez
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: nrico2006 on November 27, 2022, 05:28:19 PM
How Martinez stayed in the job for so long is mad.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 27, 2022, 05:35:59 PM
How Martinez stayed in the job for so long is mad.

Well that depends. If Belgium really donít have any centre half options under 35 years old, then the manager is irrelevant. If they do, then heís a plum.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 27, 2022, 05:46:01 PM
Doesn't excuse them at the bck.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 06:06:47 PM
They are ranked 2nd but the rankings are rubbish apparently because those nations from outside Europe never played those big European teams!

Asses handed to them on a plate!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 27, 2022, 06:35:30 PM
They are ranked 2nd but the rankings are rubbish apparently because those nations from outside Europe never played those big European teams!

Asses handed to them on a plate!
Must be something wrong with the rankings if that Belgian team are ranked so highly lol. Likely to be a big going home in that group
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 06:36:32 PM
I think Belgium have to beat Croatia. Morocco and Croatia are on 4 and Belgium have 3 with a negative goal difference.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 07:42:23 PM
It's crazy that Germany could be world champions 8 years ago and mediocre now. We were really unlucky to get France in Euro qualifying .
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 27, 2022, 07:58:07 PM
Harsh offside that
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on November 27, 2022, 07:59:03 PM
Harsh offside that
Thereís no such thing
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 27, 2022, 08:10:50 PM
Germany have strong team on paper, whats their issue?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 27, 2022, 08:16:10 PM
Germany have strong team on paper, whats their issue?

They need Klopp, I think itíll be his next job
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 08:21:22 PM
1-0 Spain
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 27, 2022, 08:22:33 PM
1-0 Spain
Lovely finish.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2022, 08:41:07 PM
1-1
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 27, 2022, 08:41:33 PM
Deserved in fairness.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 27, 2022, 08:57:11 PM
Musiala a tidy player.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 28, 2022, 12:16:37 AM
Germany need a out and out striker, they had Spain beat there
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2022, 12:18:25 AM
Could say the same about all the top sides. Spain, Germany, Brazil and even France (Giroud?) lack a Kane, who hasn't scored yet.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: michaelg on November 28, 2022, 07:21:09 AM
Let's hope Alan Shearer is packed off back to the studio - That was the worst co commentary stint I have ever heard.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 07:36:53 AM
Could say the same about all the top sides. Spain, Germany, Brazil and even France (Giroud?) lack a Kane, who hasn't scored yet.
Giroud doing rightly for France who have Mbappe anyway who is reliable for goals. Thought Morata was good last night
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Hound on November 28, 2022, 07:49:34 AM
Could say the same about all the top sides. Spain, Germany, Brazil and even France (Giroud?) lack a Kane, who hasn't scored yet.
With Mpabbe there, Iíd still probably pick France as having the best attack. Giroud is obviously limited but does his job, and they need Dembele to consistently pull his weight. Brazil and England next best, lots of options, lots of pace.

I thought Spainís workrate/intensity wasnít at Germanyís level. Maybe that was because the game was more important to the Germans. I thought the Germans fully deserved the draw, but very lucky Japan didnít put them out of the tournament by beating Costa Rica. Japan really messed up and were very disappointing. Germany should hammer Costa Rica, will be interesting to see if Japan can get their act together, but expect Spain to have enough.

After the fantastic joyous scenes at the end of the Morocco-Belgium game, itís a real pity to the scenes in Brussels with young Moroccan hooligans running amok.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 08:57:45 AM
Could say the same about all the top sides. Spain, Germany, Brazil and even France (Giroud?) lack a Kane, who hasn't scored yet.
With Mpabbe there, Iíd still probably pick France as having the best attack. Giroud is obviously limited but does his job, and they need Dembele to consistently pull his weight. Brazil and England next best, lots of options, lots of pace.

I thought Spainís workrate/intensity wasnít at Germanyís level. Maybe that was because the game was more important to the Germans. I thought the Germans fully deserved the draw, but very lucky Japan didnít put them out of the tournament by beating Costa Rica. Japan really messed up and were very disappointing. Germany should hammer Costa Rica, will be interesting to see if Japan can get their act together, but expect Spain to have enough.

After the fantastic joyous scenes at the end of the Morocco-Belgium game, itís a real pity to the scenes in Brussels with young Moroccan hooligans running amok.

Felt Spain played a bit with the handbrake on tbh, thought they had a few extra gears to go too, the difference was Germany had to work their socks off
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Scarlet on November 28, 2022, 09:27:24 AM
In soccer and in football the defenders are all used to coming up against a certain type of player.
The big man on the square being served decent ball in both sports is not the norm.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 28, 2022, 09:46:15 AM
Let's hope Alan Shearer is packed off back to the studio - That was the worst co commentary stint I have ever heard.

Youíve never heard  Jermaine jenas then?!  :o
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2022, 10:04:37 AM
Michael Owen on his best day wouldn't be as good (bad as it is) as that.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 10:38:32 AM
The time wasting from Cameroon is unrealÖ

Guy went down with an injury to his face and he wasnít even touched!!

You need bring that player to the screen and get him to explain his actions then book him
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 10:50:24 AM
The time wasting from Cameroon is unrealÖ

Guy went down with an injury to his face and he wasnít even touched!!

You need bring that player to the screen and get him to explain his actions then book him
Anyone going down holding their face like that should be forced to stay off for 10 minutes for head injury assessment.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 11:31:49 AM
3-3 , unbelievable, Jeff
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: lurganblue on November 28, 2022, 11:57:43 AM
The time wasting from Cameroon is unrealÖ

Guy went down with an injury to his face and he wasnít even touched!!

You need bring that player to the screen and get him to explain his actions then book him
Anyone going down holding their face like that should be forced to stay off for 10 minutes for head injury assessment.

I like that!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 12:37:46 PM
3-3 , unbelievable, Jeff
All the African/Arab nations seem to be really holding their own, bar Qatar all the weaker countries have given a decent account of themselves, I know Costa Rica were tanked by Spain but they followed up by beating Japan.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 01:31:10 PM
Serbia were disappointing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 01:35:37 PM
3-3 , unbelievable, Jeff
All the African/Arab nations seem to be really holding their own, bar Qatar all the weaker countries have given a decent account of themselves, I know Costa Rica were tanked by Spain but they followed up by beating Japan.
2 nil to Ghana versus South Korea
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 28, 2022, 02:24:54 PM
2-2 now
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: oakleaflad on November 28, 2022, 02:30:26 PM
3-3 , unbelievable, Jeff
All the African/Arab nations seem to be really holding their own, bar Qatar all the weaker countries have given a decent account of themselves, I know Costa Rica were tanked by Spain but they followed up by beating Japan.
Costa Rica have looked a poor side. Japan dominated that game in truth. Mentioned on commentary that their goal was their only shot on target in their opening 2 games.

It is good to see a more open World Cup though, the perceived weaker countries have caught up somewhat.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 03:03:34 PM
3-2  to Ghana. Huge win.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 03:27:06 PM
3-3 , unbelievable, Jeff
All the African/Arab nations seem to be really holding their own, bar Qatar all the weaker countries have given a decent account of themselves, I know Costa Rica were tanked by Spain but they followed up by beating Japan.
Costa Rica have looked a poor side. Japan dominated that game in truth. Mentioned on commentary that their goal was their only shot on target in their opening 2 games.

It is good to see a more open World Cup though, the perceived weaker countries have caught up somewhat.
Didnít actually see the Costa Rica Japan game but even so thatís some win. Always good to see the weaker teams doing well, Canada have been good to watch and have some talented players even if results didnít go their way.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 28, 2022, 03:45:48 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on November 28, 2022, 03:52:31 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then

Will always remember Roger Milla from that tournament and his corner flag celebration. He is 70 years of age now. Didn't realise he was as old as he was playing in the 90 and 94 WC's.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 04:08:14 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then
Not as close as Ghana were in 2010 only Suarez robbed them
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 28, 2022, 04:09:58 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then

Will always remember Roger Milla from that tournament and his corner flag celebration. He is 70 years of age now. Didn't realise he was as old as he was playing in the 90 and 94 WC's.

He said he was 40 when at the WC not sure how true that was lol. Just looking at the quarter finalist since that great Cameroon team.
36 from UEFA
15 from Conmebol
2 from CAF
2 from Concacf
1 from AFC
That's pretty dire from outside Europe and South america
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 28, 2022, 04:41:55 PM
Ghana were closer to the semi final than Cameroon.  Penalty shoot out.  Costa Rica the same
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 28, 2022, 04:44:51 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then

Will always remember Roger Milla from that tournament and his corner flag celebration. He is 70 years of age now. Didn't realise he was as old as he was playing in the 90 and 94 WC's.

He said he was 40 when at the WC not sure how true that was lol. Just looking at the quarter finalist since that great Cameroon team.
36 from UEFA
15 from Conmebol
2 from CAF
2 from Concacf
1 from AFC

That's pretty dire from outside Europe and South america

It would have  been handier if you put a continent . Iíve no idea what any of those mean
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 28, 2022, 05:56:36 PM
Seeding in group stages means that it is always an uphill battle for the weaker nations to make the breakthrough. Even if they do get out of the group, they will almost certainly face a top seed in the last 16.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 28, 2022, 06:27:39 PM
ive always felt that the south american and north american confederations should be merged into one dont see it happening tho because it make it harder for the likes of usa and mexico to qualify for world cup even with the increase spots in 2026.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 06:43:09 PM
The Brazil goal was class.
The world Cup is like a mix of the All Ireland and the Tailteann Cup. 16 and 16
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 28, 2022, 07:43:44 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then

Will always remember Roger Milla from that tournament and his corner flag celebration. He is 70 years of age now. Didn't realise he was as old as he was playing in the 90 and 94 WC's.

He said he was 40 when at the WC not sure how true that was lol. Just looking at the quarter finalist since that great Cameroon team.
36 from UEFA
15 from Conmebol
2 from CAF
2 from Concacf
1 from AFC

That's pretty dire from outside Europe and South america

It would have  been handier if you put a continent . Iíve no idea what any of those mean

Sorry
Europe 36
South America 15
Africa 2
North/Central America 2
Asia 1
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 07:45:02 PM
Portugal dominating the ball here but Uruguay probably had the better chances. Not a great game hopefully second half picks up.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 28, 2022, 08:08:28 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then

Will always remember Roger Milla from that tournament and his corner flag celebration. He is 70 years of age now. Didn't realise he was as old as he was playing in the 90 and 94 WC's.

He said he was 40 when at the WC not sure how true that was lol. Just looking at the quarter finalist since that great Cameroon team.
36 from UEFA
15 from Conmebol
2 from CAF
2 from Concacf
1 from AFC

That's pretty dire from outside Europe and South america

It would have  been handier if you put a continent . Iíve no idea what any of those mean

Sorry
Europe 36
South America 15
Africa 2
North/Central America 2
Asia 1

Good man  8)

(I did know uefa though)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:13:24 PM
Didnt think Ronaldo touched that
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 28, 2022, 08:14:19 PM
Me too. I'm sure that went straight in
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 08:14:36 PM
Didnt think Ronaldo touched that

The bookies say different
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 28, 2022, 08:15:12 PM
ive always felt that the south american and north american confederations should be merged into one dont see it happening tho because it make it harder for the likes of usa and mexico to qualify for world cup even with the increase spots in 2026.

Which confederation do Suriname and Guyana play in? They are in South America but donít play in the South American qualifiers

Suriname born players have  provided Netherlands will countless players over the years . Surely they canít be that bad? No worse than  Venezuela or Bolivia Iíd imagine
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on November 28, 2022, 08:15:49 PM
He didnít touch it
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 28, 2022, 08:16:30 PM
Never touched it, him celebrating like he did is embarrassing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 08:17:05 PM
There are a few surprises yes but I'll wait and see who is in the QF and SF games. Cameroon back in 1990 were very close to a SF - that's 32 yrs ago. The African teams haven't really kicked on since then

Will always remember Roger Milla from that tournament and his corner flag celebration. He is 70 years of age now. Didn't realise he was as old as he was playing in the 90 and 94 WC's.

He said he was 40 when at the WC not sure how true that was lol. Just looking at the quarter finalist since that great Cameroon team.
36 from UEFA
15 from Conmebol
2 from CAF
2 from Concacf
1 from AFC

That's pretty dire from outside Europe and South america

It would have  been handier if you put a continent . Iíve no idea what any of those mean

Sorry
Europe 36
South America 15
Africa 2
North/Central America 2
Asia 1
Uruguay and Argentina are more or less European countries
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 08:20:58 PM
Never touched it, him celebrating like he did is embarrassing.

Alright LL keep your pants on
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:23:48 PM
Didnt think Ronaldo touched that

The bookies say different
I thought watching it live heíd completely missed it. Hard to say from replays tbh.  FIFA have given him the goal anyway.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 28, 2022, 08:23:55 PM
Most of the score apps have given it to Fernandes.
Ronaldo has no shame. Was it Harry Kane did similar a few seasons ago.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:26:17 PM
Changed their mind now.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:29:58 PM
Had that gobshite running on the pitch a rainbow flag with him? Iíd say Qatari security will show him the error of his ways
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: pbat on November 28, 2022, 08:30:09 PM
https://twitter.com/FIFAWorldCup/status/1597325364342456320
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:37:05 PM
Massive chance for Suarez there. Portugal riding their luck, Uruguay have come alive since the goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 08:43:31 PM
Didnt think Ronaldo touched that

The bookies say different
I thought watching it live heíd completely missed it. Hard to say from replays tbh.  FIFA have given him the goal anyway.

Bookies paid out, who cares after that..

Checking the betting to see if I get money on someone bitting
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2022, 08:47:16 PM
Massive chance for Suarez there. Portugal riding their luck, Uruguay have come alive since the goal.
Uruguay usually only come alive after going behind. And if they happen to score first, they are very protective of that status.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2022, 08:49:24 PM
Pathetic decision to award a penalty for that 'hand ball'.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on November 28, 2022, 08:50:11 PM
Jesus. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 28, 2022, 08:50:26 PM
Shocking
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 28, 2022, 08:51:03 PM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 28, 2022, 08:51:33 PM
Great penalty from Ronaldo.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 08:51:40 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Muck Savage on November 28, 2022, 08:51:44 PM
Most of the score apps have given it to Fernandes.
Ronaldo has no shame. Was it Harry Kane did similar a few seasons ago.

He celebrated his team scoring, whatís the problem
He didnít do his foolish shuuu thing which he does when he scores, right? So maybe the bloke is celebrating his team scoring, who knows but without the Shuu thing then chances are he wasnít looking for it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 08:52:25 PM
Pathetic decision to award a penalty for that 'hand ball'.
Very unfair
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 08:52:32 PM
Great penalty from Ronaldo.

Obsessed  ;D

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 28, 2022, 08:52:49 PM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agree with this.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2022, 08:56:08 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
What rule are you referring to?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 28, 2022, 08:56:59 PM
Uruguay haven't scored over 2 matches
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 09:00:01 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
What rule are you referring to?

The stop the ball with hand in the box rule
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: CK_Redhand on November 28, 2022, 09:01:08 PM
Them Portuguese boys are hard to like. Fernandes, who has already scored 2, his team winning in the 98th minute, hits the post and then cries and throws his arms up. A minute before that he was roaring at the linesman looking a corner that wasn't.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 09:02:20 PM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agreed. If he doesnít touch the ball with his hand, Bruno is in, has to be a penalty but unlucky for the lad. Uruguay Ghana should be interesting!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on November 28, 2022, 09:03:37 PM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agreed. If he doesnít touch the ball with his hand, Bruno is in, has to be a penalty but unlucky for the lad. Uruguay Ghana should be interesting!
Plenty of group still to be decided, the 3rd round of games in most groups could be great.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2022, 09:05:54 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
What rule are you referring to?

The stop the ball with hand in the box rule
Be specific.
Is this what you are referring to? There is no 'rule' which supports your claim.

HANDLING THE BALL

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a playerís hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player: 

    deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
    touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the playerís body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 09:12:02 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
What rule are you referring to?

The stop the ball with hand in the box rule
Be specific.
Is this what you are referring to? There is no 'rule' which supports your claim.

HANDLING THE BALL

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a playerís hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player:

    deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
    touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the playerís body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised

Peter Walton was talking during it and said heís unlucky but itís a penalty. So heís the expert Iíll take his view on it, good post though
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 09:14:24 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
What rule are you referring to?

The stop the ball with hand in the box rule
Be specific.
Is this what you are referring to? There is no 'rule' which supports your claim.

HANDLING THE BALL

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a playerís hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player:

    deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
    touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the playerís body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised

Peter Walton was talking during it and said heís unlucky but itís a penalty. So heís the expert Iíll take his view on it, good post though
Did Walton not say after the game that the ref was wrong? Commentators all said it wasnít a pen. Imo has to be one because if it doesnít hit his hand Portugal are through.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2022, 09:15:20 PM
He put it through his legs and he stopped it with his hand.. thems the rules
What rule are you referring to?

The stop the ball with hand in the box rule
Be specific.
Is this what you are referring to? There is no 'rule' which supports your claim.

HANDLING THE BALL

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a playerís hand/arm with the ball is an offence.

It is an offence if a player:

    deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
    touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the playerís body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised

Peter Walton was talking during it and said heís unlucky but itís a penalty. So heís the expert Iíll take his view on it, good post though
Eh no, he did not say it was a penalty, in his opinion it was not a penalty.
I asked you what 'rule' were you referring to?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 28, 2022, 09:19:43 PM
I get what people are saying with regard to rules. But itís beyond completely f**king daft that intent should be used to evaluate handball as a foul, when intent is not a factor in any other type of foul.

The rule on handball would be so much easier to accept and interpret, if the subjective assessment centred on ďdid that handball gain his side an advantage that otherwise would not have existed?Ē, rather than ďdid he mean that? No, of course he didnít mean itÖ soccer players donít use their handsÖ so move onto the next criteriaĒ.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 09:20:48 PM
I get what people are saying with regard to rules. But itís beyond completely f**king daft that intent should be used to evaluate handball as a foul, when intent is not a factor in any other type of foul.

The rule on handball would be so much easier to accept and interpret, if the subjective assessment centred on ďdid that handball gain his side an advantage that otherwise would not have existed?Ē, rather than ďdid he mean that? No, of course he didnít mean itÖ soccer players donít use their handsÖ so move onto the next criteriaĒ.
Agreed. Maybe have the intent criteria when awarding a card
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 09:21:09 PM
He said during it that was. Didnít watch afterwards. You canít stop the ball with your hand which will prevent a scoring opportunity.

You need to chill though, getting worked up isnít healthy
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trueblue1234 on November 28, 2022, 09:24:02 PM
I get what people are saying with regard to rules. But itís beyond completely f**king daft that intent should be used to evaluate handball as a foul, when intent is not a factor in any other type of foul.

The rule on handball would be so much easier to accept and interpret, if the subjective assessment centred on ďdid that handball gain his side an advantage that otherwise would not have existed?Ē, rather than ďdid he mean that? No, of course he didnít mean itÖ soccer players donít use their handsÖ so move onto the next criteriaĒ.

I agree, tho in the competitive world of soccer youíd start to see forwards trying to gain an edge. Blasting the ball at defenders hands etc. itís just one of the things where thereís no perfect solution as thereís too many variables.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on November 28, 2022, 09:33:01 PM
I get what people are saying with regard to rules. But itís beyond completely f**king daft that intent should be used to evaluate handball as a foul, when intent is not a factor in any other type of foul.

The rule on handball would be so much easier to accept and interpret, if the subjective assessment centred on ďdid that handball gain his side an advantage that otherwise would not have existed?Ē, rather than ďdid he mean that? No, of course he didnít mean itÖ soccer players donít use their handsÖ so move onto the next criteriaĒ.

I agree, tho in the competitive world of soccer youíd start to see forwards trying to gain an edge. Blasting the ball at defenders hands etc. itís just one of the things where thereís no perfect solution as thereís too many variables.
I honestly donít think itís complicated at all. Ball hits tucked in arm or hand, then carry on.  Ball hits outstretched arm or hand, then judge whether an advantage was gained from this action.

In my experience, anyone whoís ever played ground ball gets one on the arm or hand every once in a while - and knows straight away whether their hand should or shouldnít have been in that place.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2022, 09:34:48 PM
He said during it that was. Didnít watch afterwards. You canít stop the ball with your hand which will prevent a scoring opportunity.

You need to chill though, getting worked up isnít healthy
I am quite calm. As for yourself you don't know the rules you referred to  and now the add on with the panic last ditch Walton defense ;D
Walton said clearly that iho the player's hand was in a natural position when the ball hit hand and that the penalty decision was extremely harsh.

But in MR2's world that means Walton says it was a penalty ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2022, 09:40:30 PM
He did say it was a penalty at the time if he changed his mind then hi ho..

The ref watched it after the 7 VAR lads reviewed it, itís a penalty, so move on, the gasket might blow
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 28, 2022, 09:55:54 PM
ive always felt that the south american and north american confederations should be merged into one dont see it happening tho because it make it harder for the likes of usa and mexico to qualify for world cup even with the increase spots in 2026.

Which confederation do Suriname and Guyana play in? They are in South America but donít play in the South American qualifiers

Suriname born players have  provided Netherlands will countless players over the years . Surely they canít be that bad? No worse than  Venezuela or Bolivia Iíd imagine

suriname and guyana play in concacaf the north american central and carribbean confederation think they play there because they feel more cultural Caribbean and its probably  gives them more of a chance
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: delgany on November 28, 2022, 10:00:54 PM
ive always felt that the south american and north american confederations should be merged into one dont see it happening tho because it make it harder for the likes of usa and mexico to qualify for world cup even with the increase spots in 2026.

Which confederation do Suriname and Guyana play in? They are in South America but donít play in the South American qualifiers

Suriname born players have  provided Netherlands will countless players over the years . Surely they canít be that bad? No worse than  Venezuela or Bolivia Iíd imagine

suriname and guyana play in concacaf the north american central and carribbean confederation think they play there because they feel more cultural Caribbean and its probably  gives them more of a chance

USA,  Canada & Mexico will host in 2026. So 3 extra teams from CONACAF will qualify , in 48 team competition !
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Never beat the deeler on November 28, 2022, 11:13:07 PM
I get what people are saying with regard to rules. But itís beyond completely f**king daft that intent should be used to evaluate handball as a foul, when intent is not a factor in any other type of foul.

The rule on handball would be so much easier to accept and interpret, if the subjective assessment centred on ďdid that handball gain his side an advantage that otherwise would not have existed?Ē, rather than ďdid he mean that? No, of course he didnít mean itÖ soccer players donít use their handsÖ so move onto the next criteriaĒ.

I agree, tho in the competitive world of soccer youíd start to see forwards trying to gain an edge. Blasting the ball at defenders hands etc. itís just one of the things where thereís no perfect solution as thereís too many variables.
I honestly donít think itís complicated at all. Ball hits tucked in arm or hand, then carry on.  Ball hits outstretched arm or hand, then judge whether an advantage was gained from this action.

In my experience, anyone whoís ever played ground ball gets one on the arm or hand every once in a while - and knows straight away whether their hand should or shouldnít have been in that place.

this has been my stance forever. I have no idea why it can't be this simple
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 28, 2022, 11:55:40 PM
ive always felt that the south american and north american confederations should be merged into one dont see it happening tho because it make it harder for the likes of usa and mexico to qualify for world cup even with the increase spots in 2026.

Which confederation do Suriname and Guyana play in? They are in South America but donít play in the South American qualifiers

Suriname born players have  provided Netherlands will countless players over the years . Surely they canít be that bad? No worse than  Venezuela or Bolivia Iíd imagine

suriname and guyana play in concacaf the north american central and carribbean confederation think they play there because they feel more cultural Caribbean and its probably  gives them more of a chance

USA,  Canada & Mexico will host in 2026. So 3 extra teams from CONACAF will qualify , in 48 team competition !

48 teams is mental.

I heard  them talk about a 32 team Euros as well. Thatís even  more bonkers.

Last time I checked there were 53 teams in European qualifying. Take  out the likes of Andorra, Gibraltar,  San Marino , Liechtenstein, Faroes , Malta, Luxembourg,  etc....... thatís practically every team/country in Europe at the finals!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 29, 2022, 12:59:16 AM
think they have  put   32 team  euro on hold for a while but they probably will go to that eventually.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 07:16:16 AM
ive always felt that the south american and north american confederations should be merged into one dont see it happening tho because it make it harder for the likes of usa and mexico to qualify for world cup even with the increase spots in 2026.

Which confederation do Suriname and Guyana play in? They are in South America but donít play in the South American qualifiers

Suriname born players have  provided Netherlands will countless players over the years . Surely they canít be that bad? No worse than  Venezuela or Bolivia Iíd imagine

suriname and guyana play in concacaf the north american central and carribbean confederation think they play there because they feel more cultural Caribbean and its probably  gives them more of a chance

USA,  Canada & Mexico will host in 2026. So 3 extra teams from CONACAF will qualify , in 48 team competition !

48 teams is mental.

I heard  them talk about a 32 team Euros as well. Thatís even  more bonkers.

Last time I checked there were 53 teams in European qualifying. Take  out the likes of Andorra, Gibraltar,  San Marino , Liechtenstein, Faroes , Malta, Luxembourg,  etc....... thatís practically every team/country in Europe at the finals!
A 48 team Euros would be interesting if they broke  the dominant teams into regions. Eg no Germany but Bavaria, Baden Wurtemberg, etc. England could be replaced by 6 regions, Italy 7, whatever.

Before all the money flooded into soccer the Euros had 8 teams. The World Cup had 16.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2022, 09:01:35 AM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agreed. If he doesnít touch the ball with his hand, Bruno is in, has to be a penalty but unlucky for the lad. Uruguay Ghana should be interesting!

I've seen the rule and more people then not are suggesting it shouldn't be a penalty but I'd argue that the defenders arm is clearly in an unnatural position because he made a ridiculous challenge on the edge of the box with both legs leaving the ground hence why his arm was positioned where it was. Don't understand why anyone would want to see a defender be reprieved after an appalling bit of defending and and good attacking play from Fernandes. 100% a penalty

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on November 29, 2022, 09:12:46 AM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agreed. If he doesnít touch the ball with his hand, Bruno is in, has to be a penalty but unlucky for the lad. Uruguay Ghana should be interesting!

I've seen the rule and more people then not are suggesting it shouldn't be a penalty but I'd argue that the defenders arm is clearly in an unnatural position because he made a ridiculous challenge on the edge of the box with both legs leaving the ground hence why his arm was positioned where it was. Don't understand why anyone would want to see a defender be reprieved after an appalling bit of defending and and good attacking play from Fernandes. 100% a penalty

His hand is in the most natural position it could be, in that it is breaking his fall. To suggest that is unnatural is ridiculous. He's falling and the ball hits him. It was never a penalty. The standard of refereeing in general has been quite poor.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 09:22:15 AM
How does FIFA's funding model work? Do more teams mean more money for them ? Is it longer tournaments or what ?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 09:23:54 AM
On the penalty I think the VAR team were swayed by the fact that, had the ball not hit the defenders hand Bruno was through for a goal scoring opportunity. It should not have had any influence on the decision but something tells me that it had.
The VAR ref who called it was from Qatar.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 09:24:26 AM
How does FIFA's funding model work? Do more teams mean more money for them ? Is it longer tournaments or what ?

All about promotion and building brand, will always generate more money worldwide for FIFA by encouraging more kids to play football, if you bring more teams to the World Cup then that inspires the next generation of players
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 09:26:07 AM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agreed. If he doesnít touch the ball with his hand, Bruno is in, has to be a penalty but unlucky for the lad. Uruguay Ghana should be interesting!

I've seen the rule and more people then not are suggesting it shouldn't be a penalty but I'd argue that the defenders arm is clearly in an unnatural position because he made a ridiculous challenge on the edge of the box with both legs leaving the ground hence why his arm was positioned where it was. Don't understand why anyone would want to see a defender be reprieved after an appalling bit of defending and and good attacking play from Fernandes. 100% a penalty

His hand is in the most natural position it could be, in that it is breaking his fall. To suggest that is unnatural is ridiculous. He's falling and the ball hits him. It was never a penalty. The standard of refereeing in general has been quite poor.
Rule needs updating. Hand was probably in a natural position if youíre falling so by the letter of the law no penalty. The rule leaves too much open to interpretation though. Doesnít mean that it shouldnít be a penalty though, at the end of the day if he doesnít stop the ball with his hand Portugal have a great goal chance.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 09:28:14 AM
How does FIFA's funding model work? Do more teams mean more money for them ? Is it longer tournaments or what ?

All about promotion and building brand, will always generate more money worldwide for FIFA by encouraging more kids to play football, if you bring more teams to the World Cup then that inspires the next generation of players
Iím sure theyíd love to tap into the massive populations of China, India, Indonesia and Nigeria. Probably see a 64 team world cup before long!

We probably wouldnít qualify regardless though. 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 09:35:36 AM
How does FIFA's funding model work? Do more teams mean more money for them ? Is it longer tournaments or what ?

All about promotion and building brand, will always generate more money worldwide for FIFA by encouraging more kids to play football, if you bring more teams to the World Cup then that inspires the next generation of players
Iím sure theyíd love to tap into the massive populations of China, India, Indonesia and Nigeria. Probably see a 64 team world cup before long!

We probably wouldnít qualify regardless though.

While Ireland is in the European groups for qualification they won't for a good bit
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 09:58:30 AM
How does FIFA's funding model work? Do more teams mean more money for them ? Is it longer tournaments or what ?

All about promotion and building brand, will always generate more money worldwide for FIFA by encouraging more kids to play football, if you bring more teams to the World Cup then that inspires the next generation of players
Iím sure theyíd love to tap into the massive populations of China, India, Indonesia and Nigeria. Probably see a 64 team world cup before long!

We probably wouldnít qualify regardless though.
I think China qualified in 2002
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2022, 10:03:54 AM
Donít understand that point of view Main Street.

His hand prevented the Portuguese getting a shot on goal. Whether he meant it or not shouldnít come into it any more than accidentally tripping a man up in the box.
Agreed. If he doesnít touch the ball with his hand, Bruno is in, has to be a penalty but unlucky for the lad. Uruguay Ghana should be interesting!

I've seen the rule and more people then not are suggesting it shouldn't be a penalty but I'd argue that the defenders arm is clearly in an unnatural position because he made a ridiculous challenge on the edge of the box with both legs leaving the ground hence why his arm was positioned where it was. Don't understand why anyone would want to see a defender be reprieved after an appalling bit of defending and and good attacking play from Fernandes. 100% a penalty

His hand is in the most natural position it could be, in that it is breaking his fall. To suggest that is unnatural is ridiculous. He's falling and the ball hits him. It was never a penalty. The standard of refereeing in general has been quite poor.
Rule needs updating. Hand was probably in a natural position if youíre falling so by the letter of the law no penalty. The rule leaves too much open to interpretation though. Doesnít mean that it shouldnít be a penalty though, at the end of the day if he doesnít stop the ball with his hand Portugal have a great goal chance.

Rule does need updating to cover yesterdays penalty. Handball laws are a farce anyway, 90% of penalties given are probably not deliberate anyways; Yesterdays was a consequence of shocking defending and stopped Fernandes going clear on goal, bad defending should rightly be punished.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 10:05:14 AM
The last group matches are played simultaneously, as a result of Austria v Germany in 1982.
So no match this morning
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: HiMucker on November 29, 2022, 10:28:23 AM
On the penalty I think the VAR team were swayed by the fact that, had the ball not hit the defenders hand Bruno was through for a goal scoring opportunity. It should not have had any influence on the decision but something tells me that it had.
The VAR ref who called it was from Qatar.
The Var team just suggested to the ref that its worth a look at it again. It was the ref that made the call for the penalty after reviewing it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: NAG1 on November 29, 2022, 10:33:20 AM
On the penalty I think the VAR team were swayed by the fact that, had the ball not hit the defenders hand Bruno was through for a goal scoring opportunity. It should not have had any influence on the decision but something tells me that it had.
The VAR ref who called it was from Qatar.
The Var team just suggested to the ref that its worth a look at it again. It was the ref that made the call for the penalty after reviewing it.

And therein is one of the biggest fault, human nature would lead you to believe if requested to look at it again to think that you have missed something.

In that situation would take a very strong person to not change his mind, I would assume like the rugby they are having conversations as they are watching the replays but I might have that wrong.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 10:43:39 AM
On the penalty I think the VAR team were swayed by the fact that, had the ball not hit the defenders hand Bruno was through for a goal scoring opportunity. It should not have had any influence on the decision but something tells me that it had.
The VAR ref who called it was from Qatar.
Most definitely should imo. Rules need updated.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on November 29, 2022, 11:54:55 AM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 11:59:25 AM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
Need to win by a few goals though. Can see them maybe nicking a draw depending on which England turn up. Do group a winners play group b runners up in knock outs etc?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 29, 2022, 12:10:22 PM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
Need to win by a few goals though. Can see them maybe nicking a draw depending on which England turn up. Do group a winners play group b runners up in knock outs etc?

Yep, winner will likely play Ecuador/Senegal. 2nd place play Netherlands.

Winner of the group will probably have France in the quarters (could be the end of the road for England?)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 12:14:02 PM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
Need to win by a few goals though. Can see them maybe nicking a draw depending on which England turn up. Do group a winners play group b runners up in knock outs etc?

Yep, winner will likely play Ecuador/Senegal. 2nd place play Netherlands.

Winner of the group will probably have France in the quarters (could be the end of the road for England?)
France would make wee boys of England, Mbappe would have s field day if he got at Harry Maguire.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 12:43:28 PM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
England are top 5. Wales are bottom 3
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Estimator on November 29, 2022, 12:51:53 PM
As it is the last group games this week..

How is qualification decided?

1. Points accrued
2. Goal difference
3. Goals scored
4. Head-to-head results
5. Fair play: the team that has accumulated the fewest indiscipline points wins (a yellow card equals one point, a red card shown for two yellows equals three points, a direct red card equals four points and a direct red card shown to a player who was already on a yellow equals five points)
6. Lots drawn


Japan made it through to the knock out stages, at the expense of Senegal, in 2018 on Fair Play grounds after everything else was level.
Not sure if there are any groups this year that are close to this happening again.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 29, 2022, 12:54:21 PM
england have to be beat by like 4 goals i think to get eliminated fifa does goal difference before head to head if uefa it be head to head.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armamike on November 29, 2022, 02:29:16 PM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
Need to win by a few goals though. Can see them maybe nicking a draw depending on which England turn up. Do group a winners play group b runners up in knock outs etc?

Yep, winner will likely play Ecuador/Senegal. 2nd place play Netherlands.

Winner of the group will probably have France in the quarters (could be the end of the road for England?)
France would make wee boys of England, Mbappe would have s field day if he got at Harry Maguire.

I think you're right. At the minute France look like they would have too much for England. England really shouldn't be too scared by what they've seen at this World Cup so far and should be a contender but they don't have the leaders esp in defence to win the big one.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 29, 2022, 02:43:58 PM
Do what you can to keep the man child happy?

Quote
The Portuguese Federation are going to present evidence to FIFA to prove that the first goal against Uruguay was Cristiano Ronaldoís

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Do what you can to keep the man child happy?

Quote
The Portuguese Federation are going to present evidence to FIFA to prove that the first goal against Uruguay was Cristiano Ronaldoís


As long as the bookies paid out on it last night!! probably paid out on both scorers  ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 29, 2022, 02:52:15 PM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.

Wales are brutal. As much as Iíd love to see  Wales beat them,   it will be 3-0 England
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on November 29, 2022, 03:26:27 PM
USA v Iran is the match to watch the night.  Just like senegal v 3cuador now.  The other two will be absolute snoorefests
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2022, 03:49:59 PM
Jesus, wouldn't you just love if for Wales to beat the English and buck them out of it.

Hard to see it happening but just to make that smug bollox Mark Pougatch squirm.
Wales have to win by 4 goals or something for England to be knocked out.
Only hope would be for Wales to somehow manage to hold out for a draw, then Iran beat USA.
That would mean England finish second and have to play the Dutch in the next round.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 29, 2022, 03:54:06 PM
Any win is sufficient for Wales if the other game is a draw

Don't think England would be too worried about the dutch
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 29, 2022, 03:54:52 PM
USA v Iran is the match to watch the night.  Just like senegal v 3cuador now.  The other two will be absolute snoorefests

Snorefest is right, The Dutch are bang average, even against this team they are misplacing passes and same amount of shots on target than Qatar
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 29, 2022, 04:09:14 PM
So England (assuming they top group) would meet the winners of Senegal-Ecuador, right? They won't find that easy.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2022, 04:11:48 PM
Any win is sufficient for Wales if the other game is a draw

Don't think England would be too worried about the dutch
Theyíd be more worried about the Dutch than Ecuador or Senegal all the same.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 29, 2022, 05:56:51 PM
The Dutch are very average. Iíd be more  hopeful Senegal might spring a surprise v England than the Dutch.

Itís looking like France  will just have to knock them out in the quarter finals.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 29, 2022, 07:37:21 PM
Wales don't look like a team in need of a win at the moment
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 07:41:31 PM
The Dutch are very average. Iíd be more  hopeful Senegal might spring a surprise v England than the Dutch.

Itís looking like France  will just have to knock them out in the quarter finals.
Agreed. Not one of the  better Dutch vintages. You would miss Arjen Robben
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 07:56:08 PM
Wales had one shot
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 29, 2022, 08:09:03 PM
Wales had one shot

And no touches in the box
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 29, 2022, 08:14:03 PM
ITS CAAAAAAAMIN HOME ITS CAAAAAAMIN HOME
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
ITS CAAAAAAAMIN HOME ITS CAAAAAAMIN HOME
Youíre watching the wrong game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 08:27:12 PM
Good hit from Rashford but keeper should do better. Good pressure from Rashford again winning the ball back for second goal. Wales solid first half but couple of mistakes have cost them, not offering much going forward. Wonít know much about England after this that we didnít already
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 29, 2022, 08:27:22 PM
Wales have done nothing considering what was at stake
 Very disappointing. They have been about as good as Qatar over the 3 games ffs
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on November 29, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
ITS CAAAAAAAMIN HOME ITS CAAAAAAMIN HOME
Youíre watching the wrong game.

If the other one descends into a riot let me know..

Danny ward is not a good keeper
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 29, 2022, 08:34:36 PM
On 70 mins, the USA  have not put the game to bed yet, 'never write off the ....Iranians'.
It's tense stuff.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2022, 08:34:58 PM
USA living dangerously, have been the better team but without the 2nd goal Iran still in it.Iran only need a draw.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 08:37:56 PM
Wales have done nothing considering what was at stake
 Very disappointing. They have been about as good as Qatar over the 3 games ffs
No guts. We always got out of our group
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 29, 2022, 08:39:39 PM
I wonder if the televised match in Iran includes the images of the Iranian supporters, mixed, joyous and bare headed.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 29, 2022, 09:00:33 PM
Wales were poor and not just in this match.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on November 29, 2022, 09:01:55 PM
Carter Vickers is innocent.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 29, 2022, 09:04:20 PM
USA win. Have been impressed with them, should have beaten England also.
Will be a decent game between them and the Dutch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 29, 2022, 09:07:13 PM
Shocking stuff from the Iranians at the end.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 29, 2022, 09:12:37 PM
Shocking stuff from the Iranians at the end.

Why what were they at?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 29, 2022, 09:14:01 PM
Wales were poor and not just in this match.

Getting there was Wales's achievement. 2016 Wales in the Euros was a stronger bunch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 29, 2022, 09:17:17 PM
Itíll be another 64 years  before theyíre back. Then again, weíll probably have a 128 team World Cup soon enough
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 29, 2022, 09:19:34 PM
Shocking stuff from the Iranians at the end.

Why what were they at?

Man went to ground over nothing and they were screaming blue murder wanting a var check when there was absolutely nothing in it. Just pure desperation.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 08:49:40 AM
No goals for Kane yet. None of the plastic Paddies have scored.
Rashford is joint top for the Golden Boot on 3
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 08:53:28 AM
No goals for Kane yet. None of the plastic Paddies have scored.
Rashford is joint top for the Golden Boot on 3

So United players has 6 goals or have they scored more?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: bennydorano on November 30, 2022, 09:28:40 AM
USA win. Have been impressed with them, should have beaten England also.
Will be a decent game between them and the Dutch.
Holland 9/10, USA 17/5 with PP. I assume that's 90 mins. I certainly wouldn't be backing the Dutch at that price. USA have been very good in that group.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 30, 2022, 09:34:48 AM
USA win. Have been impressed with them, should have beaten England also.
Will be a decent game between them and the Dutch.
Holland 9/10, USA 17/5 with PP. I assume that's 90 mins. I certainly wouldn't be backing the Dutch at that price. USA have been very good in that group.

The USA have a great chance.  They should have beaten Wales and Eng.  Dutch look pretty average.  I don't think the BBC was prepared for how terrible Wales have been!  It's a pity Ramsay and Bale missed the World Cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 09:47:39 AM
No goals for Kane yet. None of the plastic Paddies have scored.
Rashford is joint top for the Golden Boot on 3

So United players has 6 goals or have they scored more?
Bruno 2, Casemiro 1, Rashford 3? Canít think of anyone else. Those 3 would be on team of the tournament so far
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 30, 2022, 10:37:00 AM
No goals for Kane yet. None of the plastic Paddies have scored.
Rashford is joint top for the Golden Boot on 3

Grealish?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on November 30, 2022, 02:41:40 PM
France make 9 changes.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 02:47:11 PM
France make 9 changes.
not surprised. Looking at the table there and they would need to lose, plus Aussies beat Denmark, plus a 6 goal swing in the goal difference for them not to top the group.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 02:48:03 PM
Group C really interesting with all 3 teams having a good shout at getting through
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 04:35:20 PM
Australia are leading 1-0 against a poor Denmark.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 30, 2022, 04:55:56 PM
That was tense for the Aussies, but great to see.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Pub Bore on November 30, 2022, 05:09:06 PM
France and Australia through to the knock out phase.  France will play the runners up in Group C and Aus will play the Group C winners.  France v Argentina in the last 16 a possibility though i think all four teams in Group C can still qualify.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 05:37:08 PM
Well done Australia. Really surprised at Denmark, had them as dark horses tbh
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 30, 2022, 05:39:00 PM
Griezman offside decision for the last ditch goal being disallowed is a farce. Luckily it affects nothing more than French vanity.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 05:53:11 PM
Well done Australia. Really surprised at Denmark, had them as dark horses tbh
They were very disappointing. They and Wales had one outstanding player who got them to the finals but could bring them no further.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 30, 2022, 06:16:56 PM
Well done Australia. Really surprised at Denmark, had them as dark horses tbh
They were very disappointing. They and Wales had one outstanding player who got them to the finals but could bring them no further.

Denmark, Wales and Belgium are all coming to the end of a life cycle.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 30, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
Why was Javier Hernandez not  in the Mexico squad?  :o

They havenít scored in 2 games , surely he wouldíve gave them some firepower?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Nanderson on November 30, 2022, 07:18:59 PM
Why was Javier Hernandez not  in the Mexico squad?  :o

They havenít scored in 2 games , surely he wouldíve gave them some firepower?
He hasnt been called up in 3 years for some reason even though hes smashing the MLS
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 07:38:08 PM
Never a penalty. Argentina deserve the goal though, Poland have been awful
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on November 30, 2022, 07:38:23 PM
Ah jaysis thatís not a peno
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 07:38:54 PM
Justice
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2022, 07:39:03 PM
Justice done there?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on November 30, 2022, 07:39:09 PM
Polish goalkeeper is good.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 30, 2022, 07:39:13 PM
Joke penalty decision

Justice it was saved
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on November 30, 2022, 07:39:25 PM
Justice

Very much so
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on November 30, 2022, 07:39:54 PM
Bullshit penalty call there, Keeper flying through the air at the ball, what's he supposed to do.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on November 30, 2022, 07:44:06 PM
Couldn't like Pessi if you reared him
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on November 30, 2022, 07:44:41 PM
Anybody know the Alexis Mac allister story? How long has the family been in Argentina?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 30, 2022, 07:44:48 PM
Bullshit penalty call there, Keeper flying through the air at the ball, what's he supposed to do.

Iím waiting on the rule book coming out before I decide  ;D
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Post by: shark on November 30, 2022, 07:54:12 PM
Anybody know the Alexis Mac allister story? How long has the family been in Argentina?

Read before that it goes way back. Something like 5 generations.
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Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 08:02:33 PM
The Polish defence has been under pressure all the way through the first half . They will get tired
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Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 08:03:48 PM
Anybody know the Alexis Mac allister story? How long has the family been in Argentina?

Read before that it goes way back. Something like 5 generations.
There is a Welsh colony in a town called Trelew and the surrounding area about halfway down Patagonia . Very nice people.
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Post by: smort on November 30, 2022, 08:06:24 PM
Our boy!!!
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 30, 2022, 08:08:07 PM
The Irish guy scores
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Post by: laoislad on November 30, 2022, 08:18:51 PM
Some free kick goal from Mexico. Brilliant.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on November 30, 2022, 08:27:56 PM
Starting to feel like a proper World Cup now. Great atmosphere from the Argies.
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Post by: laoislad on November 30, 2022, 08:30:46 PM
Mexico need another goal do they? Read on Twitter that if it stays as is then Poland go through because of less yellow cards? Is that true?
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Post by: smort on November 30, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
Yes, Mexico on 7 yellows, Poland 4

Though the way Poland are playing, there are more goals in Argentina
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Post by: shark on November 30, 2022, 08:32:23 PM
Mexico need another goal do they? Read on Twitter that if it stays as is then Poland go through because of less yellow cards? Is that true?

Yes. 7 to 4 on yellows.
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Post by: Capt Pat on November 30, 2022, 08:35:20 PM
Argentina should have had a penalty there for a push in the back of Alvarez as he shot on goal.VAR should have sorted it.
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Post by: mrdeeds on November 30, 2022, 08:39:34 PM
7 5 now
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Post by: laoislad on November 30, 2022, 08:41:59 PM
So what happens if it finished all square on yellow cards! And does a red card count towards it?
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Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2022, 08:49:12 PM
They draw lots. (Said that on bbc one)
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Post by: mrdeeds on November 30, 2022, 08:50:50 PM
So what happens if it finished all square on yellow cards! And does a red card count towards it?

Straight red is 4 points, yellow 1, two yellows 3
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Post by: smort on November 30, 2022, 08:54:19 PM
Poland have been awful. Not sure if its tactics or what
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Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 08:57:09 PM
One interesting thing about the world Cup is the ethnic mix of countries. Argentina , Uruguay and Australia are very white while Ecuador, Mexico  and Brazil are more mixed.
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Post by: weareros on November 30, 2022, 08:59:43 PM
That must be the poorest ever performance by a team - Poland - that secured passage to 2nd round.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on November 30, 2022, 09:01:56 PM
Saudi Arabia beating Argentina counted for nothing with Argentina finishing top and Saudis bottom.
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Post by: Kidder81 on November 30, 2022, 09:06:54 PM
Saudi Arabia beating Argentina counted for nothing with Argentina finishing top and Saudis bottom.

You always live up to your username
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Post by: seafoid on November 30, 2022, 09:13:46 PM
Poland have been awful. Not sure if its tactics or what
Argentina are one of the top teams . Poland are limited but they are considerable better than Denmark and Wales.
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Post by: Kidder81 on November 30, 2022, 09:14:16 PM
Poland are awful to watch, so negative
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Post by: Armagh18 on November 30, 2022, 09:39:53 PM
Handy route to a semi final for Argentina now, Ozzies then Usa or Holland. Them and Brazil in semi if both go through!
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Post by: From the Bunker on November 30, 2022, 09:50:47 PM
Poland are awful to watch, so negative

Had to laugh at Ray Houghton give out about the way Poland went about their business trying to qualify tonight. The Republic of Ireland teams he was part of did the exact same thing to qualify for the knockout stages in 1990 and 1994.
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Post by: Eire90 on November 30, 2022, 10:01:52 PM
They draw lots. (Said that on bbc one)


since the stadums are very close my thoughts it would be better to have them go to some stadium tomorrow morning and have a penalty shootout better than lots.
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 30, 2022, 10:05:00 PM
They had lots in Italia 90 between Ireland and Holland to see which teams they played in the last 16
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 30, 2022, 10:08:16 PM
Felt sorry for Mexico. Made me think though in the history of the world cup has a country underperformed more than Mexico?Because concacaf is shite they are guaranteed qualifying yet when they are at the finals they never do anything. They have a massive football crazy population. The ideal demographic young and poor but their record is pretty ropey
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Post by: Tony Baloney on November 30, 2022, 11:17:28 PM
Saudi Arabia beating Argentina counted for nothing with Argentina finishing top and Saudis bottom.

You always live up to your username
;D harsh!
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 12:38:01 PM
I bet Croatia will beat Belgium
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Post by: Armagh18 on December 01, 2022, 12:52:38 PM
I bet Croatia will beat Belgium
Theyíd be fairly warm favourites would they not? Belgium have been shite. Wouldnít be surprised if Canada beat Morocco then Belgium beat Croatia
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Post by: An Watcher on December 01, 2022, 01:39:26 PM
Morocco have been impressive but then so have Canada.  Hope Morocco get through at Belgium expense
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Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 01, 2022, 02:42:20 PM
Not all seems well in the Belgium camp (theyll prob win 3 0 now lol)
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 03:19:30 PM
Croatia awarded a peno until the ref changes his mind.
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Post by: Capt Pat on December 01, 2022, 04:49:54 PM
Big chance missed by Lukaku.
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Post by: CK_Redhand on December 01, 2022, 04:50:04 PM
Big chance missed by Lukaku.
Belgium bringing on a clearly unfit Lukaku is desperate. Worse than being a man down.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2022, 04:53:48 PM
Big chance missed by Lukaku.

Hat-trick of sitters missed. If he was kept on the bench and those chances fell to someone else?

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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 04:55:35 PM
Belgium out. Morocco top.
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 04:56:48 PM
Glad to see those frickiní Belgians go  out.  Always were a vastly  overrated team
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 05:11:25 PM
Glad to see those frickiní Belgians go  out.  Always were a vastly  overrated team
They got to the semi finals in 2018
Today was their Aughrim
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 05:17:46 PM
Glad to see those frickiní Belgians go  out.  Always were a vastly  overrated team
They got to the semi finals in 2018
Today was their Aughrim

Yeah  and they were overrated then too
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Post by: shark on December 01, 2022, 05:25:31 PM
Glad to see those frickiní Belgians go  out.  Always were a vastly  overrated team
They got to the semi finals in 2018
Today was their Aughrim

Yeah  and they were overrated then too

They were 6th favourites to win in 2018 with most bookies. I'd say they were at that time rated accurately.
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Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 01, 2022, 05:38:14 PM
How Martinez managed to stay in his job after underachieving with the players at his disposal, Iíll never know
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Post by: Look-Up! on December 01, 2022, 05:52:10 PM
How Martinez managed to stay in his job after underachieving with the players at his disposal, Iíll never know
I'd imagine he'd still be in the running for any lower PL jobs that come up. For arguments sake, if Kenny was gone, would he be a candidate for our job.
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Post by: dec on December 01, 2022, 06:04:46 PM
What annoyed be about Belgium was they showed towards the end of the game that they have the ability to attack, they just chose not to do so earlier.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 06:36:41 PM
Germany 1/12. They ainít playing like a team thatís 1/12
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Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 01, 2022, 06:48:33 PM
How Martinez managed to stay in his job after underachieving with the players at his disposal, Iíll never know

Agreed. Hes gone now tho no surprise
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Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2022, 06:54:47 PM
Hope these women refs know the offside rule  ;)
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Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 01, 2022, 07:45:27 PM
This is the worst German team Iíve ever watched
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Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2022, 08:05:46 PM
Japan equalise, Germany going out as it stands.
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 08:08:25 PM
This is the worst German team Iíve ever watched
It's some comedown since 2014. They didn't qualify from their group in 2018.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63788547
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 08:09:05 PM
Japan equalise, Germany going out as it stands.
2-1 ahead now
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 08:09:55 PM
Japan equalise, Germany going out as it stands.
Ball looked out.
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Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2022, 08:10:20 PM
That looked like the whole of the ball was over the line.
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 08:11:02 PM
Japan equalise, Germany going out as it stands.
Ball looked out.
Looked very out.
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Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 01, 2022, 08:11:45 PM
Are Spain realising that theyíd rather play Morocco than Croatia?
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 08:12:06 PM
Goal line technology or just the VAR freeze framing it
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Post by: gawa316 on December 01, 2022, 08:14:49 PM
Are Spain realising that theyíd rather play Morocco than Croatia?

Was just thinking that!
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 08:15:11 PM
Sure ball was out a foot and a half in the Germany game for  a German corner and the lines woman was way behind the play.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 08:15:51 PM
Sure ball was out a foot and a half in the Germany game for  a German corner and the lines woman was way behind the play.
Did it lead to a goal?
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Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2022, 08:17:15 PM
Spain could go out if Costa Rica score again!
And people said this World Cup has been boring! Been great the last few nights.
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 08:18:39 PM
Teams should have a right to a VAR appeal, to a supreme VAR who can rule on the regular VAR appointee's decision.
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Post by: RedHand88 on December 01, 2022, 08:21:58 PM
Best. World cup. Ever.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 08:22:29 PM
Spain could go out if Costa Rica score again!
And people said this World Cup has been boring! Been great the last few nights.
Agree. Starting to really get going now that the matches have a bit of jeopardy, especially for some of the established nations.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 08:23:56 PM
Spain will engineer a soft penalty to levelÖ
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Post by: An Watcher on December 01, 2022, 08:24:03 PM
Best. World cup. Ever.

Worst workd cup so far in my opinion.  Hopefully picks up in the knockout stages
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Post by: smort on December 01, 2022, 08:24:23 PM
If Costa rica could manage a win this would have to go down as the greatest night of world cup football
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Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2022, 08:26:33 PM
Holy f**k Costa Rica score.
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 08:26:57 PM
Costa Rica have scored again
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 08:27:38 PM
Shit got real now.
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Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 01, 2022, 08:27:45 PM
Fcuk me the german defence is a shambles. Neuer wtf.....
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Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2022, 08:28:08 PM
As it stands Spain and Germany out of the World Cup. Unbelievable Jeff!
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Post by: RedHand88 on December 01, 2022, 08:28:11 PM
Who had Japan and Costa Rica to get out of that group???
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
Costa Rica were 25/1! Looked at it and thought about it lol
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 08:30:54 PM
FIFA need to get the fix in fast, or else!!
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 08:31:25 PM
This is the worst German team Iíve ever watched

They must be shite  if theyíre starting Muller. He must be about 55 by now, and hasnít scored in 18 years
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 01, 2022, 08:41:29 PM
Lads all this isn't good as England will be left with noone in their way ffs
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 08:49:24 PM
See a picture shared of the Japan 2nd Goal been def over the line. Can't seem to upload on this.
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 01, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
Lads all this isn't good as England will be left with noone in their way ffs

England have England in their wayÖ.they will conspire to f**k it up no matter what!
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Post by: RedHand88 on December 01, 2022, 08:51:46 PM
Does the goal line technology not cover the end line or is it just between the posts?
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 08:52:47 PM
When Spain are  closed down like Japan are doing, they are very ordinary
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 08:52:56 PM
Does the goal line technology not cover the end line or is it just between the posts?
Between posts
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Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2022, 08:56:35 PM
Fair play to Japan beat both Germany and Spain to top the group and reach the knock out stages.
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Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2022, 08:58:39 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 09:00:01 PM
Does the goal line technology not cover the end line or is it just between the posts?
Between posts
ITV saying that the goal line cameras will have picked it up.
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 09:00:31 PM
Souness is seriously pissed at his hyped up dream team losing, "show us the pictures of Japan's goal"!!!
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 09:01:40 PM
I got a picture and can't upload it, ahhh!!
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Post by: Hound on December 01, 2022, 09:01:43 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 09:03:47 PM
Ball out but some crap about the ball in the air???
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 09:04:46 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
There must be mm in it.
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 09:06:19 PM
Another angle for those on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/danmullen/status/1598422776838234115?t=DH208YMShV7PECp-lE8qmQ&s=19 (https://twitter.com/danmullen/status/1598422776838234115?t=DH208YMShV7PECp-lE8qmQ&s=19)
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 09:06:58 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
There must be mm in it.
Where is the image from above? 
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Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2022, 09:08:41 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
There must be mm in it.
Where is the image from above?
See link above.
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Post by: seafoid on December 01, 2022, 09:10:32 PM
When Spain are  closed down like Japan are doing, they are very ordinary
They have a few players playing out of position. They aren't much to write home about.
They are like Armagh 12 years after the all-Ireland.
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 09:10:47 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
There must be mm in it.
Where is the image from above?
See link above.
Ahh sooo.

Somebody send that image to Souness, he's peddling FIFA conspiracy theories.
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Post by: Hound on December 01, 2022, 09:10:52 PM
As Walton said on ITV, thereís a misconception that you only look at the part of the ball touching the ground. That pic from above shows that the whole of the ball is not over the whole of the line (by about a millimeter!)
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Post by: Hound on December 01, 2022, 09:12:00 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
There must be mm in it.
Where is the image from above?
See link above.
Ahh sooo.

Somebody send that image to Souness, he's peddling FIFA conspiracy theories.
He must have had money on Spain topping the group!
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 09:13:43 PM
Pic I got from other side, not above, the ball well out.
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 09:14:28 PM
Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!
There must be mm in it.
Where is the image from above?
See link above.
Ahh sooo.

Somebody send that image to Souness, he's peddling FIFA conspiracy theories.

Aye because itís  not like fifa to be caught up  in conspiracies
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Post by: WT4E on December 01, 2022, 09:17:25 PM
Pic I got from other side, not above, the ball well out.

It's the same ball
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Post by: RedHand88 on December 01, 2022, 09:18:40 PM
The camera above the line shows the curve of the ball is breaking the line, right decision.
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Post by: HiMucker on December 01, 2022, 09:19:29 PM
Pic I got from other side, not above, the ball well out.
Pm me and I'll send you a pic of me holding the moon
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 09:23:49 PM
Souness is going to have another heart attack, raving like a balloon on TV

Had the games ended with both Japan and Germany on same points would Germany go through based on?
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 09:26:32 PM
Souness is going to have another heart attack, raving like a balloon on TV

Had the games ended with both Japan and Germany on same points would Germany go through based on?
Spain would have had to score a goal to draw the match in order for Japan and Germany to end up even on points,  therefore Germany would have had a better goal average and ended up in 2nd place and into the last 16.
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 09:26:55 PM
Souness is going to have another heart attack, raving like a balloon on TV

Had the games ended with both Japan and Germany on same points would Germany go through based on?

I donít think he had a heart attack before , but he had a bypass

Anyway , Had Spain equalised, Germany Would have went through
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Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2022, 09:29:39 PM
The camera above the line shows the curve of the ball is breaking the line, right decision.


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Post by: Capt Pat on December 01, 2022, 09:37:33 PM
Spain are into Englands half of the draw which should make it tougher for England which is all that counts.
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Post by: David McKeown on December 01, 2022, 09:41:24 PM
In real time I thought it was out but I noticed the linesman who was on the other side didnít flag. Also the ref seemed to wait before blowing his whistle. I wonder was this a case that VAR thought they didnít have clear evidence and so went with the on field decision.
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Post by: Kidder81 on December 01, 2022, 09:48:45 PM
Spain are into Englands half of the draw which should make it tougher for England which is all that counts.

Think England would beat Spain but hopefully France get there first in the QF. Itís no handy run like they had in 2018 anyway
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Post by: Main Street on December 01, 2022, 09:49:26 PM

In real time I thought it was out but I noticed the linesman who was on the other side didnít flag. Also the ref seemed to wait before blowing his whistle. I wonder was this a case that VAR thought they didnít have clear evidence and so went with the on field decision.
It looked like the Japan players also thought it was out.
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 01, 2022, 10:01:45 PM
In rugby union or league any part of the ball even touching the line is ruled out, am Happy Japan are through, they deserved it,
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Post by: AustinPowers on December 01, 2022, 10:02:07 PM
Spain are into Englands half of the draw which should make it tougher for England which is all that counts.

Think England would beat Spain but hopefully France get there first in the QF. Itís no handy run like they had in 2018 anyway

Iím hoping Senegal will get there  in the second round
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 01, 2022, 10:09:13 PM
It's a ridiculous decision if it was called out based on those photos noone would have said a thing. If that was the goal line is that no goal then - almost Lampard territory ;D
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Post by: CK_Redhand on December 01, 2022, 10:11:10 PM
A by product of the strict/excessive added time at this world cup is that Germany had about 3 minutes where they knew the result of the other match. I'd have loved to see them score 3 own goals to put Spain out, just out of spite
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Post by: John Martin on December 01, 2022, 10:12:39 PM
It's a ridiculous decision if it was called out based on those photos noone would have said a thing. If that was the goal line is that no goal then - almost Lampard territory ;D

If it was called out based on the photos, which show it wasn't out, I think some people might have said something.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2022, 10:33:09 PM
It wasnít out and the two best teams are through..

Germany have been dung, Spain lost momentum and couldnít break down a really hard working team.

Has been a great few final round of games
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Post by: Eire90 on December 01, 2022, 11:05:11 PM
World Cup organisers are increasingly open to discarding the new three-team group format for the 2026 tournament in the US, Mexico and Canada. It comes after concerns that too many dead rubbers in the last round of matches could dilute the expanded, 48-team event.

Although Fifaís official position remains unaltered, multiple sources say there have been ďinformal talksĒ and ďcorridor chatsĒ in Doha about the benefits of going with 12 groups of four teams rather than 16 groups of three.

That could lead to a 104-game World Cup if the top two in each group, plus the best eight third-placed sides, go through to a 32-team knockout stage Ė which is 40 more than will be played at Qatar 2022.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 01, 2022, 11:07:36 PM
if they go with that format it will be ridiculous  104 games is too much unless they play earlier group games at same time  or extend tournament to like 5 or 6 weeks  a month seems long enough already might aswell  have a 64 team straight knockout if they do this.12 groups of  4 also brings in the best  3rd place teams bs like the euros which will make the group stage even easier for the big teams because of seeding and  more weaker teams in the wc.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: gallsman on December 01, 2022, 11:14:10 PM
Absolute storm in a teacup stuff. Looks like ref got the (very tight) call right so don't get people drumming up controversy over it.
 
In rugby union or league any part of the ball even touching the line is ruled out, am Happy Japan are through, they deserved it,

Slightly more convoluted than that as the position of the player in possession matters as well in rugby. American football too. Ball can very clearly be inside the lines but legally in touch/out of bounds if the player has a foot on our outside the line.

Delighted for Japan but their winning goal should never have stood.
The bizarre thing is that there can be grass between the ball and line, but when viewed from above the overhang of the ball is not fully over the line. Thatís what happened here. So seemingly correct decision, but the rule should be changed!

What's bizarre about it? It's simple geometry. Why should it be changed? The rule is clear and always has been and had never been controversial until ITV and Souness started kicking up a fuss about it there tonight.

If that was the goal line is that no goal then - almost Lampard territory ;D

Of course it would be no goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on December 01, 2022, 11:21:25 PM
Unfortunately this is just capitalism doing what capitalism does. When something is successful, expand, expand, expand. Bleed every last artery, fill every last orifice, then blame anyone, anything else when things get so overwhelming and confused, that the heart canít cope.

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If theyíre going to go to 48, they should go to 64 straightaway. Thatís where theyíre going to end up and it makes more sense. It would allow 4-5 host countries to be granted byes to the finals. It would mean 127 games that have to be organised, but it would also mean only one extra match for the players than in the current system, and as long as people can get onboard with concurrent games being okay to the world, and starting midweek not being the end of the world, it would see a tournament thatís only half a week longer to play out.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 02, 2022, 08:06:48 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 02, 2022, 08:12:10 AM
Unfortunately this is just capitalism doing what capitalism does. When something is successful, expand, expand, expand. Bleed every last artery, fill every last orifice, then blame anyone, anything else when things get so overwhelming and confused, that the heart canít cope.

ó-

If theyíre going to go to 48, they should go to 64 straightaway. Thatís where theyíre going to end up and it makes more sense. It would allow 4-5 host countries to be granted byes to the finals. It would mean 127 games that have to be organised, but it would also mean only one extra match for the players than in the current system, and as long as people can get onboard with concurrent games being okay to the world, and starting midweek not being the end of the world, it would see a tournament thatís only half a week longer to play out.

Can't wait for Saudi Arabia-UAE-Bahrain-Qatar-China 2034
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on December 02, 2022, 08:27:03 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: HiMucker on December 02, 2022, 08:44:22 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.
England and France will meet in the quarters, so that's as deep as they will go if France win it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on December 02, 2022, 08:59:06 AM
In rugby union or league any part of the ball even touching the line is ruled out, am Happy Japan are through, they deserved it,

but also in Rugby (both codes) if the ball is airborne and way over the line and as long as the players feet are inside the line, the ball is still in play, wouldn't work in soccer.

The Germans have no one to blame but themselves irrespective of how many mm of the ball was cutting over the line.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: trailer on December 02, 2022, 09:25:19 AM
Unfortunately this is just capitalism doing what capitalism does. When something is successful, expand, expand, expand. Bleed every last artery, fill every last orifice, then blame anyone, anything else when things get so overwhelming and confused, that the heart canít cope.

ó-

If theyíre going to go to 48, they should go to 64 straightaway. Thatís where theyíre going to end up and it makes more sense. It would allow 4-5 host countries to be granted byes to the finals. It would mean 127 games that have to be organised, but it would also mean only one extra match for the players than in the current system, and as long as people can get onboard with concurrent games being okay to the world, and starting midweek not being the end of the world, it would see a tournament thatís only half a week longer to play out.

We need a Tailteann Cup. Keep the minnows of Ireland, San Marino and Andorra interested.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: gallsman on December 02, 2022, 09:40:08 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on December 02, 2022, 10:01:08 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

And what about 16/48 ?
There will always be teams that underperform in a tournament that runs over a few weeks. The point I'm making is about qualification. At least half of the European places are picked up by teams in the top 10 in the world. The rest are fighting over crumbs, while 60% of South American teams will be there, along with an additional 4 Asian teams. Even Oman will piss through.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 02, 2022, 10:19:17 AM
Which is worse for a status team- not to qualify or to qualify but not make it to the second round ?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 02, 2022, 10:40:49 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Hound on December 02, 2022, 10:48:52 AM
World Cup organisers are increasingly open to discarding the new three-team group format for the 2026 tournament in the US, Mexico and Canada. It comes after concerns that too many dead rubbers in the last round of matches could dilute the expanded, 48-team event.

Although Fifaís official position remains unaltered, multiple sources say there have been ďinformal talksĒ and ďcorridor chatsĒ in Doha about the benefits of going with 12 groups of four teams rather than 16 groups of three.

That could lead to a 104-game World Cup if the top two in each group, plus the best eight third-placed sides, go through to a 32-team knockout stage Ė which is 40 more than will be played at Qatar 2022.
In a 3 team group with 2 qualifying, they'd need to make sure that whoever wins the first group game plays in the second group game. Then the 3rd group game should never be a dead rubber. If the first game is a draw, then the top seed plays the second game.
I think the main problem would be the potential for teams to be exactly level of goal difference, e.g. three 1-1 draws.
Van Basten has raised the idea of draws going straight to pen shootouts, with the winner of the shootout getting 2 points and the loser 1. Seems like a good idea for the purpose of that tournament.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 02, 2022, 10:49:05 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
Unbeaten does not equal a decent team. And lets be honest if you canít beat Macedonia you have no business at a world cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: shark on December 02, 2022, 11:09:05 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
Unbeaten does not equal a decent team. And lets be honest if you canít beat Macedonia you have no business at a world cup.

Macedonia would qualify from Asia for 2026. Easily.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 02, 2022, 11:29:03 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
In fairness they came second in their group and only 30% of second placed teams qualified. Scotland and Ukraine also had the mi adh.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 02, 2022, 11:30:49 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
Unbeaten does not equal a decent team. And lets be honest if you canít beat Macedonia you have no business at a world cup.

Poor argument. Japan lost to Oman (Oman ffs) in the qualifiers and yet look at them now. Qatar are the actual current Asian champions. How? I have no idea
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 11:31:30 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.


Yes but Australia are in the second round and Denmark are out, finishing behind Tunisia by a 3 points ...

The world cup has shown that the teams from Asia and Africa can compete with the teams from Europe, Morocco and Japan topped their group. Ghana have a chance to get into the last 16as do Cameroon..

If France bate Germany and Spain in the group we'd all be saying its France's to lose, Japan did that and they will never get that recognition, just the fairy tale stuff

Been a good world cup for large parts
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 02, 2022, 11:32:09 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
In fairness they came second in their group and only 30% of second placed teams qualified. Scotland and Ukraine also had the mi adh.

That's the point though. Second still got you qualified back in the day before they realised they could milk more money with all the extra playoff games
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 02, 2022, 11:47:14 AM
Last couple of days going against the idea of us looking more European representation, 2 of the supposed better teams from Europe in Belgium and Germany embarrassed in the groups, plus last years Euro winners not even qualified. Still fancy France or maybe Portugal to win it though and that other shower to go deep.

Last years euros winners not qualifying surely shows why there should be more representation from Europe, not less. We are still looking at 6 of the last 8 being from Europe. Possible exception being USA making it 5. 2 of those 6 are in Irelandís next qualifying group. Thankfully in Euros there is a back door. Smaller European nations get screwed in this World Cup qualifying system.

13/32 places is grand for UEFA in a World Cup. Italy winning the Euros is irrelevant. They shat the bed in qualifying, end of story. Could just as easily make a spurious argument about how shit the likes of Wales, Germany, Denmark and Belgium have been, therefore they've no business being there.

Italy were unbeaten in their group. They lost one match against Macedonia and that was that, out. Have you seen the shit the likes of Australia play in Asia it would make non- league teams blush. World qualifying is the way forward and if the rest of the world is catching up well then they will be rewarded with even more places as of right and not as of some contrived shit from FIFA to rig it for marketing.
In fairness they came second in their group and only 30% of second placed teams qualified. Scotland and Ukraine also had the mi adh.

That's the point though. Second still got you qualified back in the day before they realised they could milk more money with all the extra playoff games
There are 10 groups. 6 would make more sense. Top 2 and no quailifiers
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: David McKeown on December 02, 2022, 12:27:54 PM
On the goal I see a lot of complaints that VAR awarded the goal without conclusive proof particularly from Souness who keeps calling for conclusive proof the ball was in. Is that not the wrong way to frame things. What I mean is surely if the on field officials think the ball is out the game stops and the goal kick is awarded. The goal then canít be given because the game has been stopped.

So in order to award the goal the goal must have been given and VAR would have had to have evidence to over turn it. So conclusive proof it was in isnt need and/or doesnít exist.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 02, 2022, 12:33:28 PM
On the goal I see a lot of complaints that VAR awarded the goal without conclusive proof particularly from Souness who keeps calling for conclusive proof the ball was in. Is that not the wrong way to frame things. What I mean is surely if the on field officials think the ball is out the game stops and the goal kick is awarded. The goal then canít be given because the game has been stopped.

So in order to award the goal the goal must have been given and VAR would have had to have evidence to over turn it. So conclusive proof it was in isnt need and/or doesnít exist.
yeah surely conclusive proof of it being out would be needed in order to overturn the original decision. Haven't seen anything clear either way mysef tbh. Had to be very very fine margin
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 02, 2022, 12:46:02 PM
it seemed to me spain try to be like the old spain with tiki taka  but they dont have the players to do it
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Fionntamhnach on December 02, 2022, 12:46:48 PM
On the goal I see a lot of complaints that VAR awarded the goal without conclusive proof particularly from Souness who keeps calling for conclusive proof the ball was in. Is that not the wrong way to frame things. What I mean is surely if the on field officials think the ball is out the game stops and the goal kick is awarded. The goal then canít be given because the game has been stopped.

So in order to award the goal the goal must have been given and VAR would have had to have evidence to over turn it. So conclusive proof it was in isnt need and/or doesnít exist.

That's the way I've taken it for as long as I can remember from the laws/rules of the sport for most field sports inc. soccer - essentially the ball is live until it is ruled dead. Looking at the (albeit limited) VAR video of the incident in question, it seems to me that the officials concluded that they could not be completely certain that the ball was dead (i.e. had fully crossed the goal line) therefore the ball was still live thus had been kept in play and the goal stood. we're talking no more than a handful of millimeters either way here.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 01:35:20 PM
Did the ref blow before the ball was in the net? Did the Linesman keep his flag down?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2022, 01:49:28 PM
No

Yes

(From memory)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 01:51:34 PM
No

Yes

(From memory)

So using VAR was the right and in the end correct thing to do. Case closed.

Would loved to have seen Keane in the room with Grahame and for him just to pedantic and go opposite to Grahame  ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2022, 01:58:31 PM
It had to go to VAR. I would imagine that's why the linesman wouldn't touch it wrt putting the flag up.

However then you have the scenario of the Argentinian penalty where you go to VAR, the ref spends ages analysing it and despite being completely wrong gives the penalty anyway!!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 02:24:20 PM
It had to go to VAR. I would imagine that's why the linesman wouldn't touch it wrt putting the flag up.

However then you have the scenario of the Argentinian penalty where you go to VAR, the ref spends ages analysing it and despite being completely wrong gives the penalty anyway!!

I think he was pushed, the pressure from the importance of the match was probably above anything he's done before, that finger hitting a player is the least amount ever.  Keepers coming flat out with two fists getting ball man and all will be looked at more now if we are basing penalties on that one
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on December 02, 2022, 02:52:00 PM
Uruguay name 2 goalkeepers in their starting 11 for the game against Ghana.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2022, 02:55:00 PM
Eh?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 02:59:29 PM
Uruguay name 2 goalkeepers in their starting 11 for the game against Ghana.

They have been very poor so this may work!!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on December 02, 2022, 02:59:58 PM
Think it's a saurez joke being made
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: blasmere on December 02, 2022, 03:00:11 PM
Uruguay name 2 goalkeepers in their starting 11 for the game against Ghana.

Suarez!! (from 2010)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 02, 2022, 03:01:27 PM
Uruguay name 2 goalkeepers in their starting 11 for the game against Ghana.

Suarez!! (from 2010)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 02, 2022, 03:50:16 PM
Must be played on an ice rink this game
Serious amount of throwing themselves to the ground
Embarrassing
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 02, 2022, 03:52:17 PM
Must be played on an ice rink this game
Serious amount of throwing themselves to the ground
Embarrassing
Are you new to this soccer craic?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 02, 2022, 04:19:16 PM
Must be played on an ice rink this game
Serious amount of throwing themselves to the ground
Embarrassing
Are you new to this soccer craic?

Certainly not but this a new level
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 02, 2022, 04:26:09 PM
Lot of respect for Uruguay and what theyve done from such a small nation but theyre deffo up there as the worst for all this carry on. Esp now theyre ahead.

Sure they played Scotland in 86(?) only needin a draw and it was dire
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on December 02, 2022, 05:06:31 PM
Good riddance to Uruguay,
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: blasmere on December 02, 2022, 05:08:36 PM
Suarez bawling like a baby, your heart bleeds...
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on December 02, 2022, 05:10:40 PM
No team with 3 wins out of 3 yet, just Brazil left.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 02, 2022, 05:10:50 PM
Why did they take off Suarez and the goalscorer?  Spain did the same  with morata and nearly went out because of it. Madness
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 02, 2022, 05:11:31 PM
Suarez bawling like a baby, your heart bleeds...

No goal for him, Cavani and Nķnez in this world cup. Out on goal difference.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: SHEEDY on December 02, 2022, 05:13:57 PM
Cavani should've surely got a penalty near the end.... Great end to the game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 02, 2022, 05:21:07 PM
Cavani should've surely got a penalty near the end.... Great end to the game.

Ref didn't even go to var ffs. What's the point of having it
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 05:33:26 PM
Cavani should've surely got a penalty near the end.... Great end to the game.

Ref didn't even go to var ffs. What's the point of having it

Because it was y a penalty and he tried to con the ref?

Out and good riddance, loving how well they took it at the end
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: north_antrim_hound on December 02, 2022, 05:38:08 PM
Suarez bawling like a baby, your heart bleeds...

No goal for him, Cavani and Nķnez in this world cup. Out on goal difference.

As a Liverpool fan worryingly Nunez has sh..e in this tournament, even worse all the Man U players have been impressive.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: SHEEDY on December 02, 2022, 05:41:49 PM
Cavani should've surely got a penalty near the end.... Great end to the game.

Ref didn't even go to var ffs. What's the point of having it

Because it was y a penalty and he tried to con the ref?

Out and good riddance, loving how well they took it at the end
it was more a penalty than some that have been given in the tournament.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 02, 2022, 05:45:31 PM
Suarez bawling like a baby, your heart bleeds...

No goal for him, Cavani and Nķnez in this world cup. Out on goal difference.

As a Liverpool fan worryingly Nunez has sh..e in this tournament, even worse all the Man U players have been impressive.
Wouldnít be worried about any of the above, donít see how it will make any difference when they go back to their clubs.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 05:52:09 PM
Cavani should've surely got a penalty near the end.... Great end to the game.

Ref didn't even go to var ffs. What's the point of having it

Because it was y a penalty and he tried to con the ref?

Out and good riddance, loving how well they took it at the end
it was more a penalty than some that have been given in the tournament.

Possibly yes, but this time the ref had the balls to stick to his call
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 02, 2022, 05:53:37 PM
I see Gary Lineker is back to loving the world cup again.
"This world cup just keeps giving."
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Kidder81 on December 02, 2022, 05:56:55 PM
I see Gary Lineker is back to loving the world cup again.
"This world cup just keeps giving."

He did his wee bit at the very start for likes and kudos but has moved on
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 02, 2022, 06:22:16 PM
I see Gary Lineker is back to loving the world cup again.
"This world cup just keeps giving."
Tbf the matches this week have been great.

I cant remember a better last round of group matches. So many groups going right down to the wire.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 06:23:50 PM
Brazil 9 changes already topping the group so expect them bate
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 02, 2022, 06:47:29 PM
I see Gary Lineker is back to loving the world cup again.
"This world cup just keeps giving."
Tbf the matches this week have been great.

I cant remember a better last round of group matches. So many groups going right down to the wire.

48 team tournament will likely lose a lot of drama we have seen in this World cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 02, 2022, 06:52:35 PM
probably wont get this drama at next world cup the only good thing is an extra knockout round so it will feel more of  fa cup for nations tournament.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 07:12:44 PM
Samba stuff from Brazil, Cameroon still dangerous if they get a sniff off the ball
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Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 02, 2022, 07:13:26 PM
Bit of a snoozefest thus far.  Hopefully it livens up.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 07:36:00 PM

Anyone notice how rude Messi was when  Lewandowski went to him late in the game yesterday?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 02, 2022, 07:36:56 PM
Bit of a snoozefest thus far.  Hopefully it livens up.

Other game is decent
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 02, 2022, 07:38:47 PM
Bit of a snoozefest thus far.  Hopefully it livens up.
Serbia Switzerland is the game to be watching
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 02, 2022, 07:39:24 PM
Serbs are right up for this.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 02, 2022, 07:39:42 PM
Bit of a snoozefest thus far.  Hopefully it livens up.
Serbia Switzerland is the game to be watching
End to end stuff
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: HiMucker on December 02, 2022, 07:45:19 PM

Anyone notice how rude Messi was when  Lewandowski went to him late in the game yesterday?
Noticed that myself. No idea why, or maybe we are just reading too much in to it and there isn't anything to it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 02, 2022, 07:46:32 PM
Bit of a snoozefest thus far.  Hopefully it livens up.

Other game is decent

Just switched in time for the 4th goal. Much better.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 02, 2022, 08:36:43 PM
After 76 minutes, Serbia need 2 goals to qualify
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 02, 2022, 08:41:53 PM
ITV have an unrivaled ability of picking the wrong game to showcase. They just couldn't see past the name Brazil, even though every man and his dog knew they'd rest most of their team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2022, 08:47:59 PM
Both games available in fairness

Brazils second team having no issues, Cameroon having needed to win havenít really tried

Until now lol
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: bennydorano on December 02, 2022, 09:05:04 PM
Xhaka and Shaqiri enjoyed that. Good enough for the Serbs and their flegs.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 02, 2022, 09:06:18 PM
ITV have an unrivaled ability of picking the wrong game to showcase. They just couldn't see past the name Brazil, even though every man and his dog knew they'd rest most of their team.

thats why i watched the serbia v switzerland game on itv 4 they also seem to do this is majot tournaments when it comes to last game they will put on the most popular team because lots of casuals do not know how  tournament works they see brazil and be like ohh ill watch them
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on December 02, 2022, 09:08:22 PM
Date           Match                  Time (GMT / ET)
Sat, Dec. 3    Netherlands vs. USA        15:00 / 10:00
Sat, Dec. 3    Argentina vs. Australia    19:00 / 14:00
Sun, Dec. 4    France vs. Poland          15:00 / 10:00
Sun, Dec. 4    England vs. Senegal        19:00 / 14:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Japan vs. Croatia          15:00 / 10:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Brazil vs. South Korea     19:00 / 14:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Morocco vs. Spain          15:00 / 10:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Portugal vs. Switzerland   19:00 / 14:00
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 02, 2022, 09:09:25 PM
I think the 3 teams already through going to last group match all lost.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 02, 2022, 09:34:36 PM
Date           Match                  Time (GMT / ET)
Sat, Dec. 3    Netherlands vs. USA        15:00 / 10:00
Sat, Dec. 3    Argentina vs. Australia    19:00 / 14:00
Sun, Dec. 4    France vs. Poland          15:00 / 10:00
Sun, Dec. 4    England vs. Senegal        19:00 / 14:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Japan vs. Croatia          15:00 / 10:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Brazil vs. South Korea     19:00 / 14:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Morocco vs. Spain          15:00 / 10:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Portugal vs. Switzerland   19:00 / 14:00


I have a  feeling USA will beat Netherlands

I have a suspicion too that....
Japan might  beat Croatia
Morocco might  beat Spain
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 02, 2022, 09:40:12 PM
On 27 Nov Japan were 500/1
Today they are 80/1

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on December 02, 2022, 10:02:58 PM
Good riddance to Serbia.
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Post by: Puckoon on December 02, 2022, 10:14:37 PM
Date           Match                  Time (GMT / ET)
Sat, Dec. 3    Netherlands vs. USA        15:00 / 10:00
Sat, Dec. 3    Argentina vs. Australia    19:00 / 14:00
Sun, Dec. 4    France vs. Poland          15:00 / 10:00
Sun, Dec. 4    England vs. Senegal        19:00 / 14:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Japan vs. Croatia          15:00 / 10:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Brazil vs. South Korea     19:00 / 14:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Morocco vs. Spain          15:00 / 10:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Portugal vs. Switzerland   19:00 / 14:00


I have a  feeling USA will beat Netherlands

I have a suspicion too that....
Japan might  beat Croatia
Morocco might  beat Spain

I just don't see the USA firepower for scoring. Would love to see it though.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 02, 2022, 10:31:18 PM
Date           Match                  Time (GMT / ET)
Sat, Dec. 3    Netherlands vs. USA        15:00 / 10:00
Sat, Dec. 3    Argentina vs. Australia    19:00 / 14:00
Sun, Dec. 4    France vs. Poland          15:00 / 10:00
Sun, Dec. 4    England vs. Senegal        19:00 / 14:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Japan vs. Croatia          15:00 / 10:00
Mon, Dec. 5    Brazil vs. South Korea     19:00 / 14:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Morocco vs. Spain          15:00 / 10:00
Tue, Dec. 6    Portugal vs. Switzerland   19:00 / 14:00


I have a  feeling USA will beat Netherlands

I have a suspicion too that....
Japan might  beat Croatia
Morocco might  beat Spain

I just don't see the USA firepower for scoring. Would love to see it though.

They mightnít need  to score. I can see s few matches being  very cagey then going to ET and  penalties
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Puckoon on December 02, 2022, 10:33:53 PM
They will need to score the penos!

But yes, punchers chance. Solid across the back. Will be in the pub at 7am watching it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 02, 2022, 11:00:45 PM

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 03, 2022, 12:27:35 AM
🇺🇾 Are very sore losers, maybe should got a penalty. But glad them dicks are gone. Heavy fines needed for their behaviour at the end.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Hound on December 03, 2022, 01:36:22 PM
Uruguay only have themselves to blame, they were very negative the first two games. Anytime they tried to play football, they were actually a decent outfit, but it was too little too late.

The only real complaint they could have was Portugal not playing a full strength team, leaving the likes of Bernardo and Bruno off the starting team. Not that anyone can blame Portugal, they do whatís right for them. But it is the disadvantage of a 4 team group, meaning the likes of Brazil and Portugal could afford to rest players and give their last opponents an undeserved big advantage.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 03, 2022, 01:39:14 PM
Everyone knows at the outset of  the group that there's a decent chance the top teams will be through, or virtually through going into the last game.  If a team doesn't take that into account in their planning for the earlier games, then, as you say, they have only themselves to blame.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 03, 2022, 03:43:19 PM
Sad news on the World cup legend Pelť.  Moved to end-of-life care in hospital, reportedly no longer responding to chemotherapy treatment.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on December 03, 2022, 03:47:39 PM
Naive by US. Streetwise Dutch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on December 03, 2022, 03:49:52 PM
Both Dutch goals the same, cross to incoming player. US work hard, Netherlands gets the goals.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 03, 2022, 03:52:21 PM
USA have been the better team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 03, 2022, 03:53:40 PM
Dunno Redhand. Dutch content to let them have ball soak up pressure then counter attack
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: J70 on December 03, 2022, 03:57:42 PM
Pulisic doesnít look fit. US, in general, far too slow and ponderous. Any time they moved it around quickly, which wasnít often, they caused the Dutch problems. Otherwise this is a stroll for Holland.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on December 03, 2022, 04:35:08 PM
Chances go leor in this second half. A Jimmy Burke type goal there by US.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2022, 04:43:48 PM
Very naive. Basically conceded the same goal twice with no one covering late runners into the box.

Dutch not fantastic either but better.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: mrdeeds on December 03, 2022, 05:01:54 PM
That is nearly a good US team. One talented forward short.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on December 03, 2022, 05:27:05 PM
The Dutch will be happy to be in the QFs when Belgium and Germany have been sent home.
The US have a platform to build on for a good show when they are hosts in 4 years time.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on December 03, 2022, 06:24:55 PM
Very naive. Basically conceded the same goal twice with no one covering late runners into the box.

Dutch not fantastic either but better.

and the third goal came about because the left back drifted too far in and left the Dutch player completely unmarked. The US also had similar chances to the Dutch but all their forwards were deep in the penalty area and covered by the Dutch, there was space at the edge of the box but no US players making late runs.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on December 03, 2022, 06:45:02 PM
I was about to post that Collins and RTE panel are grinding bores, but that was a good segment on Mac Allisters Irish relatives.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 03, 2022, 07:36:14 PM
GOAT
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 03, 2022, 07:38:34 PM
First shot on target in the match that goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on December 03, 2022, 08:18:01 PM
I was wondering which goalie would get caught out. The sod is slow.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2022, 08:36:35 PM
In the mix!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2022, 08:45:54 PM
I was about to post that Collins and RTE panel are grinding bores, but that was a good segment on Mac Allisters Irish relatives.

Alexis Mac Allister dad, the most un-Argentine looking person ever.


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on December 03, 2022, 08:56:56 PM
La Albiceleste made hard work of that. Lucky there at the end.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: CK_Redhand on December 03, 2022, 08:58:17 PM
Some agricultural football almost draws the Aussies level despite a classic Messi performance
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 03, 2022, 09:02:28 PM
Have a feeling Netherlands v Argentina will be separated by a penalty shootout.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on December 03, 2022, 09:18:46 PM
I fancy Netherlands to beat Argentina .....  revenge for 1978.
An average Australian  team (but well organised ) was beaten by a single goal and Argentina are celebrating like they just won the semifinal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2022, 09:25:10 PM
I fancy Netherlands to beat Argentina .....  revenge for 1978.
An average Australian  team (but well organised ) was beaten by a single goal and Argentina are celebrating like they just won the semifinal.


There are a lot of travelling Argentine fans there, and they are driving their team on. They are enjoying the moment. Many thought it was all over a week ago. No Dutch player cares about 1978. I'd say many of them don't even know about 1978.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2022, 09:26:26 PM
Man of the Match


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 03, 2022, 09:56:48 PM
I fancy Netherlands to beat Argentina .....  revenge for 1978.
An average Australian  team (but well organised ) was beaten by a single goal and Argentina are celebrating like they just won the semifinal.


There are a lot of travelling Argentine fans there, and they are driving their team on. They are enjoying the moment. Many thought it was all over a week ago. No Dutch player cares about 1978. I'd say many of them don't even know about 1978.

You think that many of the Dutch national team of professional footballers don't know that their counterparts lost a world cup final in 1978?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2022, 10:12:00 PM
I fancy Netherlands to beat Argentina .....  revenge for 1978.
An average Australian  team (but well organised ) was beaten by a single goal and Argentina are celebrating like they just won the semifinal.


There are a lot of travelling Argentine fans there, and they are driving their team on. They are enjoying the moment. Many thought it was all over a week ago. No Dutch player cares about 1978. I'd say many of them don't even know about 1978.

You think that many of the Dutch national team of professional footballers don't know that their counterparts lost a world cup final in 1978?

Netherlands beat Argentina in the 1974 World Cup 4-0.  Will the Argentenians be pondering back to that result? Or maybe the Dutch will be thinking of 2014 where they went out on penalties to Argentina?


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 03, 2022, 10:14:06 PM
78 was a final though.  Are you seriously suggesting that the current players don't know about that? 

You could just say it was bombast on your part, and you meant 78 wasn't going to be a motivating factor.  That's what I'd say at this point.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Main Street on December 03, 2022, 10:30:06 PM
I fancy Netherlands to beat Argentina .....  revenge for 1978.
An average Australian  team (but well organised ) was beaten by a single goal and Argentina are celebrating like they just won the semifinal.


There are a lot of travelling Argentine fans there, and they are driving their team on. They are enjoying the moment. Many thought it was all over a week ago. No Dutch player cares about 1978. I'd say many of them don't even know about 1978.

You think that many of the Dutch national team of professional footballers don't know that their counterparts lost a world cup final in 1978?

Netherlands beat Argentina in the 1974 World Cup 4-0.  Will the Argentenians be pondering back to that result? Or maybe the Dutch will be thinking of 2014 where they went out on penalties to Argentina?
Lighten up  ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2022, 10:30:47 PM
78 was a final though.  Are you seriously suggesting that the current players don't know about that? 

You could just say it was bombast on your part, and you meant 78 wasn't going to be a motivating factor.  That's what I'd say at this point.

I'm saying it is only relevant to the players if they were hurt (themselves as a player) from a previous result. There is no recent relevant rivalry between the two countries.

Anyway, this argument is a perceptive one. Which means this argument could go on with no one proving the other wrong.

You could be right, I could be right..........Do we really care?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 03, 2022, 11:12:16 PM
78 was a final though.  Are you seriously suggesting that the current players don't know about that? 

You could just say it was bombast on your part, and you meant 78 wasn't going to be a motivating factor.  That's what I'd say at this point.

I'm saying it is only relevant to the players if they were hurt (themselves as a player) from a previous result. There is no recent relevant rivalry between the two countries.

Anyway, this argument is a perceptive one. Which means this argument could go on with no one proving the other wrong.

You could be right, I could be right..........Do we really care?

Glad to see you took me up on my suggested way out of this.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2022, 11:44:03 PM
78 was a final though.  Are you seriously suggesting that the current players don't know about that? 

You could just say it was bombast on your part, and you meant 78 wasn't going to be a motivating factor.  That's what I'd say at this point.

I'm saying it is only relevant to the players if they were hurt (themselves as a player) from a previous result. There is no recent relevant rivalry between the two countries.

Anyway, this argument is a perceptive one. Which means this argument could go on with no one proving the other wrong.

You could be right, I could be right..........Do we really care?

Glad to see you took me up on my suggested way out of this.

Glad you care,  ;)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 04, 2022, 09:35:51 AM
Jesus Christ, some of the discussions on this board are akin to your 7 year old askingí whoíd win between Ireland and Manchester Unitedí
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 04, 2022, 02:04:14 PM
Any time you're ready to raise the tone...
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 04, 2022, 02:19:08 PM
Jesus Christ, some of the discussions on this board are akin to your 7 year old askingí whoíd win between Ireland and Manchester Unitedí

It's a (pre-dominately sport based) forum on the Internet. We are not discussing splitting the Atom here. Sport is always about silly questions, theories and comparisons. That's the fun of it all.

My Father in law can never get excited about lads running around ''kicking a bag of wind'' as he puts it.  ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2022, 02:58:45 PM
If you think this is bad check the Antrim football thread  :(

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 04, 2022, 03:32:50 PM
Houl on a minute Tommy 😂
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: weareros on December 04, 2022, 03:52:34 PM
France looking slick up front and nervy at the back. Poland putting up more of a fight than the 1986 team who when drawling Brazil in the round of 16 already booked their flight home the next day, leading Dunphy to remark at half time they should have flown home before the match.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 04, 2022, 04:38:09 PM
Looks like it's bring the Dog for a walk time in the France/Poland game!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 04, 2022, 07:34:34 PM
England very poor so far.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 04, 2022, 07:38:42 PM
Ah bollox
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 04, 2022, 07:41:11 PM
Ah bollox

Henderson does his strut!  :-\
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 04, 2022, 07:42:55 PM
Ah bollox

Henderson does his strut!  :-\
Good movement between him and Bellingham to be fair, hopefully see more of that next season 😜
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 04, 2022, 07:46:01 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 04, 2022, 07:48:49 PM
Harry Kane back scoring. Coming home for Christmas?

https://youtu.be/ubRBLAHjkTo
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: CK_Redhand on December 04, 2022, 07:50:40 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 04, 2022, 07:51:03 PM
Fcuk that anyway

Itís up to you now,   cheese eating surrender monkeys 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 04, 2022, 07:59:14 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong

I thought var looked at it?

England are good but France , you would expect, would be better. England are a lot better in possession than you would see from typical English teams. The likes of maguire is a disaster waiting to happen. Mbappe could pose him serious problems.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 08:00:33 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong

Waiting on a post on the rules  :o but did it prevent a goal scoring opportunity? Brushed up from his knee .. Senegal have not taken their chances. England enjoying getting more space, could be 4-0 but if  (as Roy said) if they lose concentration they could still f**k this up
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 04, 2022, 08:01:51 PM
Fcuk that anyway

Itís up to you now,   cheese eating surrender monkeys
France would eat them for petit dejeuner
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 08:05:15 PM
Are England top scorers so far?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 04, 2022, 08:17:40 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong

I thought var looked at it?

England are good but France , you would expect, would be better. England are a lot better in possession than you would see from typical English teams. The likes of maguire is a disaster waiting to happen. Mbappe could pose him serious problems.
They are impressive going forward but the defence isn't as good.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: mrdeeds on December 04, 2022, 08:37:13 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong

Deflected up and hit him so not a peno. Bellingham is some player. Whoever gets him getting a Rolls Royce.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 04, 2022, 08:39:40 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong

Deflected up and hit him so not a peno. Bellingham is some player. Whoever gets him getting a Rolls Royce.

City must be favourites
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: HiMucker on December 04, 2022, 08:43:56 PM
Should Senegal not have had a penalty for handball?

No..
I thought it hit Stones elbow. Surprised VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it. I could be wrong
Unreal player. A serious talent

Deflected up and hit him so not a peno. Bellingham is some player. Whoever gets him getting a Rolls Royce.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 04, 2022, 08:45:06 PM
Southgate should have left Grealish to Ireland. A luxury player!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: bennydorano on December 04, 2022, 08:53:56 PM
France v England should be tasty, France slight favourites but England will hardly fear them.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 04, 2022, 08:55:11 PM
France v England should be tasty, France slight favourites but England will hardly fear them.

The quarter-finals with some tasty fixtures ahead.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 04, 2022, 08:55:47 PM
Starting to get worried!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Gael80 on December 04, 2022, 09:14:09 PM
Starting to get worried!

Winner of France and England will win the World Cup in my opinion.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 04, 2022, 09:21:22 PM
Starting to get worried!

To put your mind somewhat at ease.

England's WC/Euro knock-out record at neutral venues against other past winners

Brazil P2 L2
West Germany/Germany P3 L3
Argentina P2 L2
Uruguay P1 L1
Italy P1 L1
Portugal P1 L1
Denmark P1 W1

One win in 11 against Denmark.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on December 04, 2022, 09:22:42 PM
You could be right Gael80

They have certainly been the two  most impressive sides. Still think there is a mistake or two in that English defence/GK and Stones might even have picked up a niggle there
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: square_ball on December 04, 2022, 09:31:16 PM
France will be the best outfit theyíve played in any of the tournaments in 2018, 2021 and this one. England are decent enough in fairness to them but have played 4 poor teams so far. If France had Benzema Iíd be fairly certain France would win but think England could do it.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 04, 2022, 09:39:25 PM
I canít enjoy  this tournament until those backstards are out

Hopefully the  French will  do us  all a favour
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armamike on December 04, 2022, 10:15:16 PM
Still think England lack a bit of nous and leadership at the back that will cost them either against France or beyond that. They've got a chance though.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on December 04, 2022, 10:47:46 PM
Does anyone really believe they can beat France, Spain/Portugal and then Brazil/Argentina.  The last time they got to the semi finals they beat colombia on penalties, Sweden and then lost to Croatia.  France resting the players against tunisia could stand to them.  Surprised England didn't do something similar against Wales as we all know England have thr strongest subs bench in the tournament  ::)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: WT4E on December 05, 2022, 12:10:20 AM
France will be the best outfit theyíve played in any of the tournaments in 2018, 2021 and this one. England are decent enough in fairness to them but have played 4 poor teams so far. If France had Benzema Iíd be fairly certain France would win but think England could do it.

If they played like that against the French for 35 mins they will French toast
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on December 05, 2022, 09:08:02 AM
France will be the best outfit theyíve played in any of the tournaments in 2018, 2021 and this one. England are decent enough in fairness to them but have played 4 poor teams so far. If France had Benzema Iíd be fairly certain France would win but think England could do it.

If they played like that against the French for 35 mins they will French toast

I hope the French were watching, play MBappe out on the French right, give the ball to Harry Maguire at every opportunity and he'll pass it straight to MBappe..


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2022, 09:19:18 AM
France will be the best outfit theyíve played in any of the tournaments in 2018, 2021 and this one. England are decent enough in fairness to them but have played 4 poor teams so far. If France had Benzema Iíd be fairly certain France would win but think England could do it.

If they played like that against the French for 35 mins they will French toast

I hope the French were watching, play MBappe out on the French right, give the ball to Harry Maguire at every opportunity and he'll pass it straight to MBappe..

 ;D ;D ;D

I think Harry (if he has any sense) will start seeing stars early on, before a ball is actually kicked and off he'll come, for the good of his country
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 05, 2022, 09:23:40 AM
Complete change of subject.

Are there any decent bars in Belfast to watch the football this Saturday? Google is telling me Franklins. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 05, 2022, 09:37:03 AM
Complete change of subject.

Are there any decent bars in Belfast to watch the football this Saturday? Google is telling me Franklins. Any thoughts?
The points should have it, good music in it as well
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2022, 09:56:52 AM
Complete change of subject.

Are there any decent bars in Belfast to watch the football this Saturday? Google is telling me Franklins. Any thoughts?
The points should have it, good music in it as well

The Garrick had it, but no one was really watching, Franklins is a big sports bar, would imagine its pricy enough, not one I'd really go into but have been in past plenty of screens.. Sweet Afton have a load of screens and decent grub too
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on December 05, 2022, 05:37:01 PM
PENALTIES Japan v Croatia on now.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 05, 2022, 05:42:42 PM
PENALTIES Japan v Croatia on now.
Poorly taken penalties by Japan.  Croatia do well in major tournaments in fairness to them.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on December 05, 2022, 05:45:24 PM
Decent goalkeeper there.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: J70 on December 05, 2022, 05:46:00 PM
That was about the worst collective set of penalties Iíve ever seen. Shocking from Japan.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on December 05, 2022, 05:55:15 PM
That was about the worst collective set of penalties Iíve ever seen. Shocking from Japan.

It is amazing how a skilled team can fall on one particular small skill.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 05, 2022, 06:58:35 PM
That was about the worst collective set of penalties Iíve ever seen. Shocking from Japan.

It is amazing how a skilled team can fall on one particular small skill.
Isn't it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL6JGxutnw8
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 05, 2022, 07:09:13 PM
That was about the worst collective set of penalties Iíve ever seen. Shocking from Japan.

It is amazing how a skilled team can fall on one particular small skill.
Isn't it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL6JGxutnw8
Ah stop
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 05, 2022, 07:12:39 PM
Brazil putting this game to bed early.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on December 05, 2022, 07:14:20 PM
Doesnít matter, sure itís Englandís to lose.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 05, 2022, 07:14:59 PM
Brazil putting this game to bed early.
Richarlison might never recover from that injury for the penalty.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 05, 2022, 07:21:38 PM
You get a penalty for anything these days, that was accidental. still never understand why they did away with a indirect free kick.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2022, 07:31:16 PM
Brazil putting this game to bed early.
Richarlison might never recover from that injury for the penalty.

Seems to have recovered well enough
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 05, 2022, 07:35:59 PM
I bet they are laughing in the Politburo in North Korea.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on December 05, 2022, 07:37:41 PM
Brazil are back!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 05, 2022, 07:38:08 PM
Pure filth.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 05, 2022, 07:39:31 PM
As good as Brazil are tonight it also highlights further how poor Uruguay was not to score against this Korean team
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 05, 2022, 07:40:04 PM
Richarlison's valuation must have gone through the roof. This time last year he was a humble Everton player.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2022, 07:41:53 PM
As good as Brazil are tonight it also highlights further how poor Uruguay was not to score against this Korean team

This South Korean team has went out with a different attitude or formation. Thereís no shame either to lose to 3 of the goals..
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 05, 2022, 07:44:44 PM
Shapin up great. Mbappe neymar messi, henderson, all the top players comin to the boil nicely
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2022, 07:45:32 PM
Brazil should be putting on 5 subs in the second half
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 05, 2022, 07:52:17 PM
still think Uruguay would have gave brazil a better game.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Ghost on December 05, 2022, 07:55:18 PM
It may only be South Korea but that 1st half from Brazil was a joy to watch.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 05, 2022, 07:56:18 PM
still think Uruguay would have gave brazil a better game.
They are neighbours. And they won the World Cup before Brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIdFzP0TJxc
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 05, 2022, 08:07:23 PM
It may only be South Korea but that 1st half from Brazil was a joy to watch.

Diter Hamman in the RT… studio moaning about the Brazilian dancing after each goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 05, 2022, 08:09:17 PM
It may only be South Korea but that 1st half from Brazil was a joy to watch.


So was Roy keane but then again he cries about most things
Diter Hamman in the RT… studio moaning about the Brazilian dancing after each goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: J70 on December 05, 2022, 08:10:48 PM
Shapin up great. Mbappe neymar messi, henderson, all the top players comin to the boil nicely

 8) ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 05, 2022, 08:11:04 PM
Both correct, Iíd be leaving the boot in for that aul show boating shite
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: dec on December 05, 2022, 08:29:09 PM
Both correct, Iíd be leaving the boot in for that aul show boating shite

I think the team that concede a goal should be able to kickoff as soon as they get the ball back to the centre spot. That would put a stop to the dancing.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Dag Dog on December 05, 2022, 10:15:20 PM
Brazil reminded me of Tipperary at their worst when it comes to rubbing an opponent's nose in it!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 05, 2022, 10:33:24 PM
As good to watch as that Brazil team are I just canít support them with Neymar in the team.

Never a penalty either which killed the game, not that it would have mattered. Croatia will be better set up defensively to deal with them, should be a closer game at least. Nice to see the Pele tributes, would be very fitting for them to win another one for the great man to see.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: An Watcher on December 05, 2022, 11:31:49 PM
Sicken your sh1te the whole thing.  Dancing after a goal, falling down when the ball hits them in the stomach, falling down when no one touches them, outrageous wages, soccer is dead and has been for a long time.  What I'd give for a good physical game but them days are gone
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 05, 2022, 11:52:59 PM
I like Brazil, always have, but nothing better than seeing a team take a hard fall after all than dancing crap. Soccer, scoring a goal like a bunch of men behaving like teenagers. Outside ude of Brolly, u never seen any of this crap in Gaelic fball. NFL brought in fines for showboating.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 05, 2022, 11:56:30 PM
South Korea went out to attack instead of batten down the hatches Should scored 6/7, Know, Spain would have. They look better than Croatia or, Argentina so I say they be in the final against Likely France, if our near neighbours don't go and ruin all our Christmases.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 06, 2022, 01:38:29 AM
Both correct, Iíd be leaving the boot in for that aul show boating shite

I think the team that concede a goal should be able to kickoff as soon as they get the ball back to the centre spot. That would put a stop to the dancing.

That's a great idea!

Wasn't there a goal in some youth international match a few years back where this kind of thing happened?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 06, 2022, 01:38:47 AM
Indeed there was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zD6MT3P8Vw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zD6MT3P8Vw)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on December 06, 2022, 01:41:42 AM
And one from the pros...funnier too....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5sAhzBAWCNE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5sAhzBAWCNE)
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 05:08:20 AM
Brazil reminded me of Tipperary at their worst when it comes to rubbing an opponent's nose in it!
Awful hoors
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on December 06, 2022, 09:13:48 AM
Why do so many people get upset at paid entertainers having some fun?

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 09:18:53 AM
England will be playing the first team this tournament that actually has real pedigree, they haven't been behind and have really enjoyed a charmed life, even the USA game while playing crap they were still for large parts in control.

The real pressure will be on next day out and Gareth will tighten things up and you are looking at penalties
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 06, 2022, 09:19:55 AM
England will be playing the first team this tournament that actually has real pedigree, they haven't been behind and have really enjoyed a charmed life, even the USA game while playing crap they were still for large parts in control.

The real pressure will be on next day out and Gareth will tighten things up and you are looking at penalties
5 at the back with 2 cdms. If not then Mbappe and Co will tear Maguire a new one.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Scarlet on December 06, 2022, 09:41:16 AM
It's absolutely hilarious when the English pundits are dismissing lads with Champions League titkes, World Cups and titles from the big leagues and yet Mason Mount is borderline world class.

Bellingham is class but that French midfield is really underrated. Griezmann dropping deep is doing brilliantly too.
Southgate will need to go more defensive.

As for Brazil. What harm having a bit of craic.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on December 06, 2022, 09:54:10 AM
It's absolutely hilarious when the English pundits are dismissing lads with Champions League titkes, World Cups and titles from the big leagues and yet Mason Mount is borderline world class.

Bellingham is class but that French midfield is really underrated. Griezmann dropping deep is doing brilliantly too.
Southgate will need to go more defensive.

As for Brazil. What harm having a bit of craic.

Itís also absolutely hilarious that although France are perhaps the only country to have had an easier passage to the quarter finals than England, and have even managed to lose a game en route, Irish lads are now queuing up to talk about how good the French are, while dismissing England as cloggers.

There is nothing between these sides in terms of ability. The big difference is management. Deschamps would seem to instil pride that trumps all else when players pull on the French jersey. Southgate is still absolutely confused about his best team, tactics and formation, and is still dreaming up ways to get as many right backs onto the field as possible. Itís actually a credit to the English players that they compete in every major tournament despite him.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 06, 2022, 09:56:26 AM
Frig but  Iím sick of the English pundits blowing about  them already.   I hope they  are absolutely stuffed on Saturday.

I honestly couldnít give a fiddlers who wins it after that  as long as  they go out on Saturday
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on December 06, 2022, 10:14:32 AM
Eng v France is 50/50 in my book.  That English back line coming up against world class opposition (across the pitch, not strictly individuals) for the first time will be good acid test for them, as they have it all going forward and are well balanced in the middle of the pitch. 

Maguire has been grand for them so far, but I think he will be seen as the weak link and players will be told to run at him, draw out the mistakes.

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
Do they have a viable alternative to Maguire?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 06, 2022, 10:27:10 AM
Frig but  Iím sick of the English pundits blowing about  them already.   I hope they  are absolutely stuffed on Saturday.

I honestly couldnít give a fiddlers who wins it after that  as long as  they go out on Saturday

Imagine English pundits talking up the England team on a station with a 3/4 English audience. Shocking.

Wouldn't catch RTE at that craic!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: RedHand88 on December 06, 2022, 10:29:03 AM
Indeed there was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zD6MT3P8Vw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zD6MT3P8Vw)

Haha that's class. Their mistake was not leaving 1 player in the other half. Then the red team would have been unable to kick off!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on December 06, 2022, 11:37:22 AM
Do they have a viable alternative to Maguire?

No, it seems to be their weakest area on the squad as a whole, and again, fortunate for them, and area that has not come under heavy siege so far
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2022, 11:41:50 AM
Do they have a viable alternative to Maguire?
Yeah but heís sitting at home watching it on the TV.
Joe GomezÖ for all his faults heís a better centre back than Harry the fridge.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: thewobbler on December 06, 2022, 11:52:20 AM
Do they have a viable alternative to Maguire?
Yeah but heís sitting at home watching it on the TV.
Joe GomezÖ for all his faults heís a better centre back than Harry the fridge.

Heís really not.

Gomez looked tidy when VVD was at his imperious best and he had an armchair ride. The decline in Virgilís form has made Gonezís mediocrity rather obvious.

Maguire ainít no £70m defender. But heís clearly better on the ball and better in the air than Gomez. Not sure what Gomez is clearly better at than MaguireÖ. Apart from managing his weight.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armamike on December 06, 2022, 11:58:49 AM
Do they have a viable alternative to Maguire?
Yeah but heís sitting at home watching it on the TV.
Joe GomezÖ for all his faults heís a better centre back than Harry the fridge.

Heís really not.

Gomez looked tidy when VVD was at his imperious best and he had an armchair ride. The decline in Virgilís form has made Gonezís mediocrity rather obvious.

Maguire ainít no £70m defender. But heís clearly better on the ball and better in the air than Gomez. Not sure what Gomez is clearly better at than MaguireÖ. Apart from managing his weight.

Gomez had a bad injury himself which set him back a bit.  Maguire is better in the air but not better on the ball. Well documented how bad Maguire has been for a long time now but he's been a regular starter for England for a few years now and Southgate knows what he gets from him. He's been steady enough for England so far but he reminds me a bit of Tony Adams, i.e. very dodgy when the heat is turned up against good opposition.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 12:51:16 PM
Hope Gomez plays the rest of the season for Liverpool  ;D
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: J70 on December 06, 2022, 12:56:51 PM
It's absolutely hilarious when the English pundits are dismissing lads with Champions League titkes, World Cups and titles from the big leagues and yet Mason Mount is borderline world class.

Bellingham is class but that French midfield is really underrated. Griezmann dropping deep is doing brilliantly too.
Southgate will need to go more defensive.

As for Brazil. What harm having a bit of craic.

Iíve been very impressed with Rabiot this tournament.

Covers so much ground (including doing extra with Mbappe on that side), great at winning the ball back and a good passer and dribbler.

If I remember correctly, Juve were shopping him around a bit back in the summer. Theyíll have no problem finding takers in January if they still want to get rid.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: mrdeeds on December 06, 2022, 01:14:03 PM
It's absolutely hilarious when the English pundits are dismissing lads with Champions League titkes, World Cups and titles from the big leagues and yet Mason Mount is borderline world class.

Bellingham is class but that French midfield is really underrated. Griezmann dropping deep is doing brilliantly too.
Southgate will need to go more defensive.

As for Brazil. What harm having a bit of craic.

Iíve been very impressed with Rabiot this tournament.

Covers so much ground (including doing extra with Mbappe on that side), great at winning the ball back and a good passer and dribbler.

If I remember correctly, Juve were shopping him around a bit back in the summer. Theyíll have no problem finding takers in January if they still want to get rid.

Big problem with him is attitude, not talent. Plus his mother is an issue too.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 03:33:40 PM
Spain getting their fill of itÖanyones game now
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on December 06, 2022, 04:28:55 PM
This is dull :-\
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 06, 2022, 04:33:08 PM
This is dull :-\

Spain are unwatchable. I would rather see the Ireland of old or Wimbledon hoof it into the box than this shit. At least direct football the shit ball into the box happens within a few seconds, with Spain they have 50 sideways passes and then try a shit ball into the box. How did they score 7 in the first match.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 06, 2022, 05:00:51 PM
This is dull :-\

Spain are unwatchable. I would rather see the Ireland of old or Wimbledon hoof it into the box than this shit. At least direct football the shit ball into the box happens within a few seconds, with Spain they have 50 sideways passes and then try a shit ball into the box. How did they score 7 in the first match.

Agreed. Too technical for my simple tastes. Even the Barca teams that dominated few years back were same to an extent
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 06, 2022, 05:26:35 PM
Even the Spain team when they won it in  2010 were awful to  watch
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: markl121 on December 06, 2022, 05:35:06 PM
thought we were going to be robbed of the pens there
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 06, 2022, 05:36:12 PM
Hope Morocco dont shit the nest like Japan did after all that effort. At least go out scoring a few
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2022, 05:44:36 PM
This is dull :-\

Spain are unwatchable. I would rather see the Ireland of old or Wimbledon hoof it into the box than this shit. At least direct football the shit ball into the box happens within a few seconds, with Spain they have 50 sideways passes and then try a shit ball into the box. How did they score 7 in the first match.

In 120 plus minutes one shot on target and 1019 passes for Spain.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: armaghniac on December 06, 2022, 05:46:38 PM
Morocco have Bono and the edge!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
Bono, it's a beautiful day for Morocco!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 06, 2022, 05:53:50 PM
Spain are far too predictable

Mix it up.  Pump  it up to a big striker now and again
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Square Ball on December 06, 2022, 05:54:29 PM
He showed minerals 😂😂 good man Joe, not sure what he means. Absolutely fantastic.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 06, 2022, 06:02:08 PM
That was ridiculous. You know you are shit at penalties so make sure you win in normal time. The manager needs sacking. The aimless passing sideways is mind numbing. They only got going with a few mins left of extra time. Morocco are pretty poor to be honest. I hope Portugal or Switzerland thump them
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 06:13:20 PM
Morocco/Portugal/Switz looks like the weaker quarter of the draw.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: AustinPowers on December 06, 2022, 06:20:14 PM
Ronaldo on the bench!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Fionntamhnach on December 06, 2022, 06:28:05 PM
That was ridiculous. You know you are shit at penalties so make sure you win in normal time. The manager needs sacking. The aimless passing sideways is mind numbing. They only got going with a few mins left of extra time. Morocco are pretty poor to be honest. I hope Portugal or Switzerland thump them

When it comes to penalty shoot-outs, Spain are probably the only major playing country with a worse reputation in them than England.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2022, 06:33:08 PM
That was ridiculous. You know you are shit at penalties so make sure you win in normal time. The manager needs sacking. The aimless passing sideways is mind numbing. They only got going with a few mins left of extra time. Morocco are pretty poor to be honest. I hope Portugal or Switzerland thump them

When it comes to penalty shoot-outs, Spain are probably the only major playing country with a worse reputation in them than England.
Pity the f**kers knew how to take them 2002 though.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 07:08:00 PM
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Yakin
In 2022 FIFA World Cup qualification, Northern Ireland held reigning European champions Italy to a goalless draw, thereby ensuring that Switzerland qualified for the tournament and Italy had to play in the playoffs. In gratitude, the Swiss manager sent 9.3 kg of Swiss chocolate to the Irish Football Association.[16][17]
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 06, 2022, 07:13:31 PM
Big if but if England get past France they have a straight run to the final.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 06, 2022, 07:14:15 PM
That was ridiculous. You know you are shit at penalties so make sure you win in normal time. The manager needs sacking. The aimless passing sideways is mind numbing. They only got going with a few mins left of extra time. Morocco are pretty poor to be honest. I hope Portugal or Switzerland thump them

When it comes to penalty shoot-outs, Spain are probably the only major playing country with a worse reputation in them than England.
Pity the f**kers knew how to take them 2002 though.

They didn't we were just even worse ;D. I'm sure mendiettas winning penalty hit a bump which lifted it over givens leg  :'(
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 07:19:22 PM
Nice goal by Portugal
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 06, 2022, 07:21:47 PM
Big if but if England get past France they have a straight run to the final.

Portugal?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 07:36:50 PM
2 nil Portugal. Switzerland trina cheile
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Saffrongael on December 06, 2022, 08:00:31 PM
Big if but if England get past France they have a straight run to the final.

Portugal?

Yep
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2022, 08:10:53 PM
Ronaldo on the bench!
They arenít missing himÖ
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2022, 08:16:46 PM
Decision to drop Cancelo and Ronaldo justified by Fernando Santos.  Brazil only beat this Switzerland team 1-0 with the winner not coming until the 83rd minute.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 08:16:52 PM
4 nil now. Switzerland trina cheile ar fad
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 08:22:47 PM
Iím bored to death of hearing the ITV commentary about  Ronaldo, like wise up, obsession is unhealthy
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 06, 2022, 08:24:31 PM
So the man utd manager right after all, still good enough to come off the bench with 20mins to go
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on December 06, 2022, 08:32:33 PM
Decision to drop Cancelo and Ronaldo justified by Fernando Santos. Brazil only beat this Switzerland team 1-0 with the winner not coming until the 83rd minute.
So what? South Korea beat Portugal and Brazil beat South Korea 4-1Ö
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2022, 08:40:57 PM
Decision to drop Cancelo and Ronaldo justified by Fernando Santos. Brazil only beat this Switzerland team 1-0 with the winner not coming until the 83rd minute.
So what? South Korea beat Portugal and Brazil beat South Korea 4-1Ö

Immaterial, Portugal already through and rested a number of todays starters. BTW do you still think Spain look good?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on December 06, 2022, 08:45:04 PM
Decision to drop Cancelo and Ronaldo justified by Fernando Santos. Brazil only beat this Switzerland team 1-0 with the winner not coming until the 83rd minute.
So what? South Korea beat Portugal and Brazil beat South Korea 4-1Ö

Immaterial, Portugal already through and rested a number of todays starters. BTW do you still think Spain look good?
Itís as relevant as you thinking the Brazil Switzerland match is relevant.
Still think itís Englandís to lose?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Capt Pat on December 06, 2022, 08:48:36 PM
I tipped Portugal to do well in the euros and they let me down. They are however showing tonight they are a lot more than a one man team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2022, 08:52:34 PM
Decision to drop Cancelo and Ronaldo justified by Fernando Santos. Brazil only beat this Switzerland team 1-0 with the winner not coming until the 83rd minute.
So what? South Korea beat Portugal and Brazil beat South Korea 4-1Ö

Immaterial, Portugal already through and rested a number of todays starters. BTW do you still think Spain look good?
Itís as relevant as you thinking the Brazil Switzerland match is relevant.
Still think itís Englandís to lose?

Full strength Brazil against Switzerland is relevant your comparison is not. England yes and can lose it with Gareth Southgate as manager.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on December 06, 2022, 08:54:50 PM
Decision to drop Cancelo and Ronaldo justified by Fernando Santos. Brazil only beat this Switzerland team 1-0 with the winner not coming until the 83rd minute.
So what? South Korea beat Portugal and Brazil beat South Korea 4-1Ö

Immaterial, Portugal already through and rested a number of todays starters. BTW do you still think Spain look good?
Itís as relevant as you thinking the Brazil Switzerland match is relevant.
Still think itís Englandís to lose?

Full strength Brazil against Switzerland is relevant your comparison is not. England yes and can lose it with Gareth Southgate as manager.
Your logic is hilarious, and not just on this, on nearly everything you post.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 06, 2022, 08:54:54 PM
Switzerland have been trying since 1958 to get to the quarter finals. Their sole visit was in 1954 at home.

Puts our 1990 adventure into perspective.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 06, 2022, 09:00:35 PM
So the man utd manager right after all, still good enough to come off the bench with 20mins to go

Erik ten Hag is one of the smartest managers around then again it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Ronaldo as good as he was is well past his best now and teams can now play better without him starting. Very impressive performance by Portugal tonight interesting match against Morocco next who were well organised defensively against Spain.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2022, 09:05:38 PM
No games until Friday now, I guess Iím gonna have to talk to the Mrs tomorrow night so.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: bannside on December 06, 2022, 09:24:38 PM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armamike on December 06, 2022, 09:51:11 PM
Portugal were very impressive. 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 06, 2022, 09:52:41 PM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Saffrongael on December 06, 2022, 09:55:42 PM
At this stage you would bring him on at the end of extra time to take a penalty, thatís about it
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 10:25:30 PM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Sportacus on December 06, 2022, 10:36:10 PM
A tasty set of quarterfinals.  Brazil, Argentina, France and Portugal the favourites, but a couple of results against the bookies would be no surprise at all.  Anybody could beat anybody from here on in.  It could become a classic World Cup.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 06, 2022, 10:40:19 PM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

His actions makes it easy for social media, main stream to be talking about him even after a 6-1 win.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 11:18:08 PM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

His actions makes it easy for social media, main stream to be talking about him even after a 6-1 win.

Aye they do if youíre brain dead
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 06, 2022, 11:26:56 PM
imagine having to deal with that coming onto the field of play.


Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: gawa316 on December 07, 2022, 02:58:17 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

Alright Piers we get itÖyou want to be his friend but I donít think he reads the gaaboard
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 07:41:31 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

Alright Piers we get itÖyou want to be his friend but I donít think he reads the gaaboard

Yet you still feel heís news worthy to post. Portugal blew away the Swiss thatís the headline, new Portuguese star scores 3

But the commentator yesterday ruined the game by constantly talking about Ronaldo, itís embarrassing
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 07, 2022, 08:11:41 AM
imagine having to deal with that coming onto the field of play.



He is a narcissist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxxajLWwzqY
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 07, 2022, 08:13:08 AM
Switzerland were jammy in qualification. They came first because Italy could only draw with Norn Irn.
They were shown up yesterday.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2022, 09:21:41 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

Alright Piers we get itÖyou want to be his friend but I donít think he reads the gaaboard

I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly would have been happy had they got beat.

There is some difference between him and Messi and how they conduct themselves.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Saffrongael on December 07, 2022, 09:35:32 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

Alright Piers we get itÖyou want to be his friend but I donít think he reads the gaaboard

I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly would have been happy had they got beat.

There is some difference between him and Messi and how they conduct themselves.

Donít mention the hundreds of millions Messi is taking from the Saudis !! They are all money grabbing c***ts
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:42:06 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

Alright Piers we get itÖyou want to be his friend but I donít think he reads the gaaboard

I wouldn't be surprised if he secretly would have been happy had they got beat.

There is some difference between him and Messi and how they conduct themselves.

On that, did you see how Messi conducted himself with Robert Lewandowski near the end of their game?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 07, 2022, 09:44:11 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

Alright Piers we get itÖyou want to be his friend but I donít think he reads the gaaboard

Yet you still feel heís news worthy to post. Portugal blew away the Swiss thatís the headline, new Portuguese star scores 3

But the commentator yesterday ruined the game by constantly talking about Ronaldo, itís embarrassing
Yeah agreed. I was sick hearing about him, but his name gets clicks and views, comes with the territory of the career heís had.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 09:46:53 AM
The best one was Ronaldo not winning the world cup!! He's in great company ffs!! Just bizarre, Think Ally McCoist was trying to tell him to shut up
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: HiMucker on December 07, 2022, 11:39:38 AM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

His actions makes it easy for social media, main stream to be talking about him even after a 6-1 win.

Aye they do if youíre brain dead
Hes not going to ride you mate :-*
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2022, 12:51:59 PM
Can't see Ronaldo starting against Morocco either...his replacement tonight got a hat trick inside 70 minutes. Every dog has its day!

I see after the game he walked down the tunnel when the rest of the players went over to the supporters behind the goal.

He celebrated the goals, he was on the pitch afterwards and was smiling..

No doubt there was a camera following him constantly, the obsession is bizarre, social media, main stream media are constantly looking some sort of news.. crazy

In real news Portugal played brilliantly with three starters from the previous games.

His actions makes it easy for social media, main stream to be talking about him even after a 6-1 win.

Aye they do if youíre brain dead
Hes not going to ride you mate :-*

Aye, he's usually on here checking this board out, good to know he's living in your head rent free though
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 07, 2022, 02:06:50 PM
So it's Brazil and Argentina
Morocco
and 5 UEFA teams - France, England, Portugal, Holland and Croatia

Not good enough included Spain, Switzerland, Japan, S Korea, US, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Serbia   and Poland.

Portugal only came second in our group.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: 03,05,08 on December 07, 2022, 10:58:26 PM
What exactly did Ronnie do in the South Korea game? I thought he was decent against Uruguay, and I didnít get to see the south Korea game as I was watching the Ghana- Uruguay drama unfold. It worked out well in the end but what was the justification for dropping him?
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: delgany on December 07, 2022, 11:02:40 PM
What exactly did Ronnie do in the South Korea game? I thought he was decent against Uruguay, and I didnít get to see the south Korea game as I was watching the Ghana- Uruguay drama unfold. It worked out well in the end but what was the justification for dropping him?

He huffed after being taken off !
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2022, 01:49:17 AM
The home of football is England. It was exported to the world.

This time the world will give something back. It is coming home. 
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 08, 2022, 06:13:17 AM
Germany stick with Hansi Flick for Euro 2024 on home soil.The DFB has confirmed they will stick by the former Bayern Munich coach, even though the Germans were unable to progress from a group containing Spain, Japan and Costa Rica in Qatar.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 08, 2022, 07:27:23 AM
Germany stick with Hansi Flick for Euro 2024 on home soil.The DFB has confirmed they will stick by the former Bayern Munich coach, even though the Germans were unable to progress from a group containing Spain, Japan and Costa Rica in Qatar.
Inspired by the FAI no doubt
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 08, 2022, 07:41:23 AM
Odds

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup

Brazil 2/1
France 5/1
Argentina 6/1
Portugal 13/2
England 7/1
Holland 18/1
Croatia 50/1
Morocco 50/1
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: smort on December 08, 2022, 07:54:45 AM
Portugal or England ( :-X) worth a nibble
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2022, 08:54:58 AM
Portugal or England ( :-X) worth a nibble

Don't think England have the actual balls to win it when it gets down to it, whether that's the next match or final but Portugal can win with flair and win very ugly also when they have to
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2022, 09:08:32 AM
Portugal or England ( :-X) worth a nibble

Don't think England have the actual balls to win it when it gets down to it, whether that's the next match or final but Portugal can win with flair and win very ugly also when they have to
Said Portugal from the start and sticking with them.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 08, 2022, 10:51:25 AM
Portugal are better without Ronaldo. They should get at least to the semis.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: johnnycool on December 08, 2022, 11:29:42 AM
Portugal are better without Ronaldo. They should get at least to the semis.

Expect another Piers Morgan interview
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 08, 2022, 11:33:43 AM
The thing about this stage of the competition with the big hitters facing off is that weaknesses will be exposed.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 08, 2022, 04:13:36 PM

Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2022, 04:16:43 PM


Very harsh on Morocco
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2022, 04:17:32 PM
Even harsher on Croatia actually. Portugal and Brazil definitely wonít get it easy!
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Turf on December 09, 2022, 10:14:34 AM
Thatís not great odds for England, especially when you consider some think itís theirs to loseÖ.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 09, 2022, 11:37:55 AM
A few pundits are favouring the Dutch to beat Argentina. Are they that good ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 11:39:37 AM
A few pundits are favouring the Dutch to beat Argentina. Are they that good ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup

Sure by all the experts all you have to do is stop Messi...
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 09, 2022, 11:47:37 AM
A few pundits are favouring the Dutch to beat Argentina. Are they that good ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup
No but neither are Argentina.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 09, 2022, 12:06:03 PM
A few pundits are favouring the Dutch to beat Argentina. Are they that good ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup
No but neither are Argentina.
But they won the Copa America. The Netherlands aren't even the strongest European team.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on December 09, 2022, 12:11:30 PM
A few pundits are favouring the Dutch to beat Argentina. Are they that good ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup
No but neither are Argentina.
But they won the Copa America. The Netherlands aren't even the strongest European team.
If weíre going by that the strongest European team are sitting at home lol. Judging Argentina/Holland from what Iíve seen so far neither are exceptional and probably at similar enough level.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 09, 2022, 01:31:01 PM
A few pundits are favouring the Dutch to beat Argentina. Are they that good ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup

I'm thinking it will be another game decided on penalties.
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2022, 01:34:15 PM
Predicting the ref will get hammered afterwards when/if the Argies lose, the South Americans are a bit 'passionate'?

That Uruguayan team lost the plot
Title: Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 09, 2022, 03:14:09 PM
Brazil are like a conference of loop the loops.