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#1
Bring on Meatloaf.
#2
Quote from: David McKeown on February 15, 2025, 07:22:11 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 15, 2025, 02:27:15 PMAnd have you factored in David the loss to the association if the game is not played at all?

Probably considerably less I would have thought.

They can always fine Antrim for lost revenue.
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2025
February 15, 2025, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on February 14, 2025, 10:13:30 PMDown v Meath - Meath make the short trip up the motorway to Newry. Will probably get the shopping done in Asda on the way home. Expect them to bring home the 2 points as well as several slabs of cheap Italian beer. Meath by 3.

There isn't an Asda in Newry.
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: Predictions
February 14, 2025, 10:31:40 PM
Saturday
London v Limerick
Leitrim v Kildare
Offaly v Antrim
Derry v Galway
Cork v Westmeath
Down v Meath
Waterford v Tipperary
Wexford v Carlow
Kerry v Dublin Draw

Sunday
London v Limerick
Laois v Sligo
Clare v Fermanagh
Mayo v Tyrone
Cavan v Louth
Roscommon v Monaghan
Wicklow v Longford
Donegal v Armagh
#5
Quote from: bannside on February 14, 2025, 06:59:47 PMGenuine question Spiderlegs? After more than 15 posts on this subject, and quoting the rulebook verbatim, I offer the suggestion that you're more than a season ticket holder. I surmise you are of officialdom, to the extent you probably don't pay at all.

Possibly of the Ulster Council variety, (which dosent make you a bad person) just trying to assert what your motivation is in perpetuating the same debate.

Definitely a county official of some sorts...methinks!

As for myself, just a humble supporter who thinks that 4k would hold sufficient numbers in perfect safety, and when it's over, there will still be opportunities aplenty for Armagh supporters for days out, #fun in the sun.

The GAA should not ration its games, all should be welcome.
#6
General discussion / Re: Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022
February 14, 2025, 11:47:02 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 14, 2025, 11:41:18 AMWhy would they care now, when Trump has given them Carte Blanche to do as they please and keep the illegally seized lands, because they 'fought for them'.
 

While you might not be in admiration of previous presidents, the likes of Ronald Reagan stood up to the Russians, the present man-child is a disgrace.
#7
General discussion / Re: Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022
February 14, 2025, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 14, 2025, 11:09:36 AMChernobyl reactor hit by Russian drone.... Ukraine says

Assuming false flags never ever happen thats pretty foolish of Russia doing Ukraine a favour in the court of public opinion.

The Russians do not seem to pay much attention to public opinion.
#8
General discussion / Re: Jarlath Burns
February 12, 2025, 08:24:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2025, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 12, 2025, 08:02:16 PMBurns should just issue a statement saying that he had concerns that Gallagher would lower the reputation of the Naas club, but that problem does not exist with kilcoo.
;D  on brand you might say!

That's it in black and white.
#9
General discussion / Re: Jarlath Burns
February 12, 2025, 08:02:16 PM
Burns should just issue a statement saying that he had concerns that Gallagher would lower the reputation of the Naas club, but that problem does not exist with kilcoo.
#10
General discussion / Re: Lough Neagh
February 12, 2025, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: Last Man on February 12, 2025, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 12, 2025, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 12, 2025, 10:21:19 AMIs it the politicians or the political system at fault the most?

or the voters perhaps? People within smell of Lough Neagh will continue to vote SF or the DUP although they are doing nothing about it.
Doesn't matter who you vote for imo what actually gets one is above their pay grade and they just go along with it.

Not true, if the parties believed that they would lose votes then they would take an interest in this. No way would a big lake in the 26 turning blue-green not become an issue.
#11
General discussion / Re: Lough Neagh
February 12, 2025, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 12, 2025, 10:21:19 AMIs it the politicians or the political system at fault the most?

or the voters perhaps? People within smell of Lough Neagh will continue to vote SF or the DUP although they are doing nothing about it.
#12
Quote from: Spiderlegs on February 11, 2025, 12:14:56 AMLet's say Armagh fans only bought up 1k season tickets then the issue goes away, it doesn't matter that another 7 or 8 thousand might want to go, the Ulster Council will first of all sell the minimum, then determine if there are any remaining tickets for general sale or through the clubs.

However, the Ulster council should care that many more want to go, otherwise they are sending a suicide pass to the clubs by sending tickets for a fraction of the working members of those clubs. Quite simply, the GAA should encourage, not discourage, people who want to come.
#13
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2025, 10:21:40 PM
Quote from: Spiderlegs on February 10, 2025, 09:58:34 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 10, 2025, 09:36:18 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 10, 2025, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 10, 2025, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 10, 2025, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 10, 2025, 08:26:39 PMDraw was early October. Season tickets were late October. About a 2.5 week difference.

This is why I imagine the GAA may be scared of a claim for fraudulent misselling.

Thanks David. So any H&S issues would've been avoided had all the knowledge to hand been considered (ie. "we can only sell a small number of Armagh season tickets because one of the venues they're playing in is quite small").

They've opted to sell more tickets than the already known home venue can hold. That's nothing to do with H&S and you'd have to be naive to think they didn't consider that at the time. I'd guess they thought they could get Antrim to rollover

No, they established a policy that grounds would be reviewed for suitability and sold tickets on that basis. Some Antrim players are attempting to overthrow the decision of the association in that regard. The principle of grounds having to be suitable existed before either draw was made or the tickets were sold.

Do you have the actual text of the rule to hand? I saw it somewhere earlier but can't remember where

I can't see the rule but I see this from a news article. The H&S issue is a self made one due to too many tickets being sold after the venue was known. Had they sold fewer tickets to stay within the capacity of the venue (which they knew) then there's no issue.

That's nothing to do with Antrim.

However, in a statement to RTÉ Sport, Ulster GAA said Corrigan Park's capacity does not meet the "required health and safety standard" to stage the match and that discussions remain ongoing with Antrim GAA.

"Home venues for senior inter-county championship games are subject to the approval of the relevant CCC, and they must be in compliance with health and safety standards," a spokesperson for Ulster GAA said.

"Corrigan Park has a certified capacity of 4,000. The minimum number of tickets required to accommodate this fixture (including players charter, match officials, multi-sponsors, media, season tickets etc) will exceed the venue capacity. Therefore, Corrigan Park does not meet the required health and safety standard to accommodate this fixture.


The wording of the rule (6.12 part J) is this:

Note: Home Venues for all Senior Inter County Championship games shall be subject to
approval by the Central Competitions Control Committee and shall meet the criteria set
down by the National Facilities/Health and Safety Committee


Add this rule to what the Ulster Council are saying and that's really the matter closed.

I would like Antrim to get this home tie, I really would. But I fail to see how.

So why over sell tickets knowing they could not meet this criteria?

They can meet the criteria, there are a dozen suitable grounds in Ulster, just not any in Antrim.
#14
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 10, 2025, 09:15:18 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 10, 2025, 08:26:39 PMDraw was early October. Season tickets were late October. About a 2.5 week difference.

This is why I imagine the GAA may be scared of a claim for fraudulent misselling.

Thanks David. So any H&S issues would've been avoided had all the knowledge to hand been considered (ie. "we can only sell a small number of Armagh season tickets because one of the venues they're playing in is quite small").

They've opted to sell more tickets than the already known home venue can hold. That's nothing to do with H&S and you'd have to be naive to think they didn't consider that at the time. I'd guess they thought they could get Antrim to rollover

No, they established a policy that grounds would be reviewed for suitability and sold tickets on that basis. Some Antrim players are attempting to overthrow the decision of the association in that regard. The principle of grounds having to be suitable existed before either draw was made or the tickets were sold.
#15
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 10, 2025, 06:46:53 PMWhat came first, draw made with Antrim at home or Armagh season tickets sold??

If the draw was made first then selling that many season tickets when the capacity of Antrim's home ground was known shouldn't have happened (ie. they've oversold on the number of seats available). I know that's short sighted and in reality it wouldn't happen like that, but the Antrim game should've been excluded from the season ticket or some alternative arrangement put in place.

Principle matters. Hold your ground Antrim

Armagh had the same opportunity to buy season tickets as every other county, the season ticket scheme is not the problem here. The draw was made on the basis of a suitability assessment of the ground, which is the same for all counties in Ireland. Antrim are free to nominate any ground of proper size for this game. I'll bet you that Antrim themselves do not allow clubs nominate grounds that the county board does not think suitable.