The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Crete Boom

Quote from: stew on February 15, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
Donald is only looking out for all of us everywhere.
A 62-year-old carer was beaten and stamped to death in London's Hyde Park by an illegal immigrant who had just been released on bail for shoplifting, a court heard.

Homeless Hani Khalaf, 22, allegedly kicked, punched and stamped on Jairo Medina, from Chelsea, west London, near Speakers' Corner on the evening of August 11 last year, leaving him for dead.

He pocketed the victim's cash and stole his mobile phone which he tried to sell on hours later, the Old Bailey was told.

Mr Medina's bruised and broken body was discovered early on August 12 by a groundsman on his way to work.

Prosecutor Oliver Glasgow QC said: "Jairo Medina had sustained severe injuries, with numerous bruises and broken bones all over his body.




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Police presence: Cordons were set up in Hyde Park (Alex Lentati)


"His nose, his eye sockets, the bones in his voice box and two of his ribs had all been fractured.

"The injuries to his head and face were devastating and had caused traumatic brain injury.

"He died as a result of the blunt force injuries that he had suffered when he had been punched, kicked and stamped on - in short, he had been beaten to death."

Mr Glasgow told jurors that the motive was greed as the victim's belongings were strewn around the park, his rucksack searched and his wallet emptied.

The defendant changed his clothes and took the victim's mobile phone to a shop in Kilburn High Road, where he tried to sell it, the court heard.

Investigators found CCTV of Khalaf with his victim at 11pm on the night of the killing at a supermarket near Marble Arch although Mr Glasgow said there was no obvious link between them.

Maybe that is the sort of thing Trump did not want his countrymen subjected to!

Sure you are an immigrant from an area the conservative right would see as a place with a history of breeding terrorists , are you volunteering your visa/ passport to go home??

foxcommander

Quote from: Hardy on February 15, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: stew on February 15, 2017, 12:28:51 AM
Quote from: Hardy on February 14, 2017, 09:57:49 PM
Listen to this character. That's the chief policy advisor. Listen to what he says about judges. And how he says it. The fact that he looks like Goebbels is just a chilling coincidence.

Enough with the Nazi references, just stop.


Uncomfortable, isn't it?

Inaccurate more like it. The parallels that liberals are trying to draw are disgraceful and disingenuous.
The constant brainwashing by MSM about Hitler seems to have stuck in the tiny minds of the mouth-breathing Obama/Hillary fans and now they are spewing it as fact.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

seafoid

Quote from: foxcommander on February 15, 2017, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: Hardy on February 15, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: stew on February 15, 2017, 12:28:51 AM
Quote from: Hardy on February 14, 2017, 09:57:49 PM
Listen to this character. That's the chief policy advisor. Listen to what he says about judges. And how he says it. The fact that he looks like Goebbels is just a chilling coincidence.

Enough with the Nazi references, just stop.


Uncomfortable, isn't it?

Inaccurate more like it. The parallels that liberals are trying to draw are disgraceful and disingenuous.
The constant brainwashing by MSM about Hitler seems to have stuck in the tiny minds of the mouth-breathing Obama/Hillary fans and now they are spewing it as fact.
Stephen Miller is real

screenexile

Quote from: foxcommander on February 15, 2017, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: Hardy on February 15, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: stew on February 15, 2017, 12:28:51 AM
Quote from: Hardy on February 14, 2017, 09:57:49 PM
Listen to this character. That's the chief policy advisor. Listen to what he says about judges. And how he says it. The fact that he looks like Goebbels is just a chilling coincidence.

Enough with the Nazi references, just stop.


Uncomfortable, isn't it?

Inaccurate more like it. The parallels that liberals are trying to draw are disgraceful and disingenuous.
The constant brainwashing by MSM about Hitler seems to have stuck in the tiny minds of the mouth-breathing Obama/Hillary fans and now they are spewing it as fact.

What's Russian for "we told you so"???

Oraisteach

I'll agree that a Hitler-Trump comparison does not have a 1 to 1 equivalency, but there are enough similarities to make an attentive person concerned.

Trump's scapegoating of foreigners and foreign countries as causes for the country's economic, Geo-political, and industrial decline is right out of Hitler's playbook.

So, too, is his demonizing of the media.  He repeatedly accuses respected media outlets of creating "fake" news and of being dishonest, while he and his surrogates lie compulsively and consistently distort the news.  He has already tarred as dishonest the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC and ABC, while lauding Fox and Breitbart, which are not news outlets but propaganda outlets.  The demonizing of the media is the first step on the path to censorship, and we see already a move in that direction to gag the press.  For example, Trump has expressed a will to expand libel laws in an effort to intimidate and gag the press.  Remember, too, that a popular chant at his rallies was the German/Nazi word "lugenpresse", or lying press. Additionally, in a decidedly Putinesque move, at press conferences, e.g. today's with Netanyahu, he calls on safe right wing outlets who will not ask him hard questions about topics such as Flynn's connection to Russia.

Trump does not have the organized paramilitary backing of Hitler, an organization that brought about Kristallnacht, but he very definitely has the support of an array of white supremacist groups such as the KKK, which pose a real threat to journalists (death threats) and which have already become emboldened to organize, recruit and march.  Additionally, attacks on mosques and synagogues have increased substantially since Trump's rise to power.  Consider also Trump's unwillingness to dissociate himself from these groups.  Also, the chanting at his rallies was very reminiscent of Hitlerian gatherings.

Pay attention too to the potential imposition of emergency laws, our very own Special Powers Act. All it will take is the threat of terror.  He has already talked about sending in the Feds to places such as Chicago (I.e. imposition of martial law).

And don't scoff at the idea of a Trumpian Goebbels. That's exactly what Steve Brannon is, whose lies are broadcast ably by Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, and Miller.

Trump is not like Hitler in his Final Solution period, but there is enough of a similarity to him in his early days to cause concern.  Just the projectile torrent of lies and the ever-increasing difficulty to unearth the truth ought to be alarming to Democrats and Republicans alike.

foxcommander

Quote from: Oraisteach on February 15, 2017, 08:34:26 PM
I'll agree that a Hitler-Trump comparison does not have a 1 to 1 equivalency, but there are enough similarities to make an attentive person concerned.

Trump's scapegoating of foreigners and foreign countries as causes for the country's economic, Geo-political, and industrial decline is right out of Hitler's playbook.

So, too, is his demonizing of the media.  He repeatedly accuses respected media outlets of creating "fake" news and of being dishonest, while he and his surrogates lie compulsively and consistently distort the news.  He has already tarred as dishonest the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC and ABC, while lauding Fox and Breitbart, which are not news outlets but propaganda outlets.  The demonizing of the media is the first step on the path to censorship, and we see already a move in that direction to gag the press.  For example, Trump has expressed a will to expand libel laws in an effort to intimidate and gag the press.  Remember, too, that a popular chant at his rallies was the German/Nazi word "lugenpresse", or lying press. Additionally, in a decidedly Putinesque move, at press conferences, e.g. today's with Netanyahu, he calls on safe right wing outlets who will not ask him hard questions about topics such as Flynn's connection to Russia.

Trump does not have the organized paramilitary backing of Hitler, an organization that brought about Kristallnacht, but he very definitely has the support of an array of white supremacist groups such as the KKK, which pose a real threat to journalists (death threats) and which have already become emboldened to organize, recruit and march.  Additionally, attacks on mosques and synagogues have increased substantially since Trump's rise to power.  Consider also Trump's unwillingness to dissociate himself from these groups.  Also, the chanting at his rallies was very reminiscent of Hitlerian gatherings.

Pay attention too to the potential imposition of emergency laws, our very own Special Powers Act. All it will take is the threat of terror.  He has already talked about sending in the Feds to places such as Chicago (I.e. imposition of martial law).

And don't scoff at the idea of a Trumpian Goebbels. That's exactly what Steve Brannon is, whose lies are broadcast ably by Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, and Miller.

Trump is not like Hitler in his Final Solution period, but there is enough of a similarity to him in his early days to cause concern.  Just the projectile torrent of lies and the ever-increasing difficulty to unearth the truth ought to be alarming to Democrats and Republicans alike.

You mean like chanting "Yes we can" ?



It's fairly easy to try make the shoe fit if you really want it to, which in this case the liberals are doing. Obama treated Fox News as the enemy media when he was in power. This is nothing new of how politics work.

Martial law might be the only thing to clean up Chicago. Or if you do nothing then you get accused of not giving a damn. The police are afraid to tackle it due to accusations of heavy-handed approach and racism. How do you suggest in stopping the problem? Ignore it like Obama?

God help you if you think the likes of CNN are unbiased.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

seafoid

Foxy

What is your view of Miller?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHusZDjesr4

Was the 9th court judges' decision a usurpation of power ?

sid waddell

Quote from: foxcommander on February 15, 2017, 09:17:33 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on February 15, 2017, 08:34:26 PM
I'll agree that a Hitler-Trump comparison does not have a 1 to 1 equivalency, but there are enough similarities to make an attentive person concerned.

Trump's scapegoating of foreigners and foreign countries as causes for the country's economic, Geo-political, and industrial decline is right out of Hitler's playbook.

So, too, is his demonizing of the media.  He repeatedly accuses respected media outlets of creating "fake" news and of being dishonest, while he and his surrogates lie compulsively and consistently distort the news.  He has already tarred as dishonest the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC and ABC, while lauding Fox and Breitbart, which are not news outlets but propaganda outlets.  The demonizing of the media is the first step on the path to censorship, and we see already a move in that direction to gag the press.  For example, Trump has expressed a will to expand libel laws in an effort to intimidate and gag the press.  Remember, too, that a popular chant at his rallies was the German/Nazi word "lugenpresse", or lying press. Additionally, in a decidedly Putinesque move, at press conferences, e.g. today's with Netanyahu, he calls on safe right wing outlets who will not ask him hard questions about topics such as Flynn's connection to Russia.

Trump does not have the organized paramilitary backing of Hitler, an organization that brought about Kristallnacht, but he very definitely has the support of an array of white supremacist groups such as the KKK, which pose a real threat to journalists (death threats) and which have already become emboldened to organize, recruit and march.  Additionally, attacks on mosques and synagogues have increased substantially since Trump's rise to power.  Consider also Trump's unwillingness to dissociate himself from these groups.  Also, the chanting at his rallies was very reminiscent of Hitlerian gatherings.

Pay attention too to the potential imposition of emergency laws, our very own Special Powers Act. All it will take is the threat of terror.  He has already talked about sending in the Feds to places such as Chicago (I.e. imposition of martial law).

And don't scoff at the idea of a Trumpian Goebbels. That's exactly what Steve Brannon is, whose lies are broadcast ably by Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, and Miller.

Trump is not like Hitler in his Final Solution period, but there is enough of a similarity to him in his early days to cause concern.  Just the projectile torrent of lies and the ever-increasing difficulty to unearth the truth ought to be alarming to Democrats and Republicans alike.

You mean like chanting "Yes we can" ?



It's fairly easy to try make the shoe fit if you really want it to, which in this case the liberals are doing. Obama treated Fox News as the enemy media when he was in power. This is nothing new of how politics work.

Martial law might be the only thing to clean up Chicago. Or if you do nothing then you get accused of not giving a damn. The police are afraid to tackle it due to accusations of heavy-handed approach and racism. How do you suggest in stopping the problem? Ignore it like Obama?

God help you if you think the likes of CNN are unbiased.

Foxkkkommander comparing Obama to Hitler now  ;D

Take your meds, Foxy.

Oraisteach

So, ignore my remarks about censorship and scapegoating.

Sending in the army to an urban setting has always worked well.  Have you lived in Northern Ireland? Maybe need a move to right the social wrongs that foment the social problems.

You don't like CNN. OK, what do you think is the most reliable news source?

J70

Quote from: Oraisteach on February 15, 2017, 09:35:15 PM
So, ignore my remarks about censorship and scapegoating.

Sending in the army to an urban setting has always worked well.  Have you lived in Northern Ireland? Maybe need a move to right the social wrongs that foment the social problems.

You don't like CNN. OK, what do you think is the most reliable news source?

Good luck waiting for foxcommander to address the substance of your points!  ;D


seafoid

Elizabeth Warren ‏@SenWarren  14 feb


Reports say our own intel agencies have corroborated parts of a dossier alleging that Russia has compromising info about @realDonaldTrump.

foxcommander

Quote from: Oraisteach on February 15, 2017, 09:35:15 PM
So, ignore my remarks about censorship and scapegoating.

Sending in the army to an urban setting has always worked well.  Have you lived in Northern Ireland? Maybe need a move to right the social wrongs that foment the social problems.

You don't like CNN. OK, what do you think is the most reliable news source?

I read your comments. Don't agree with them.
I don't think there is an unbiased news source.

You certainly don't want another Northern Ireland but a more visible presence to deter. Think peacekeeping force rather than an offensive one.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

foxcommander

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Oraisteach

You don't agree that he scapegoats or that he has an ongoing battle with the press whom he calls fake news???  So, if you think all news sources are biased, where do you get your news?  Divine inspiration?

Peace-keeping force?  So, you didn't grow up during the Troubles.