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#1
Quote from: balladmaker on May 12, 2025, 05:46:38 PMChannel 4 news did a piece on these injections a week or so ago.  Apparently the same medication has been used  for treatment of diabetes for the last 20 yrs and they noticed they came accompanied with alot of weight loss.    So now approved for weight loss control on those seriously obese.  The consultant reckoned it was a case of weighing up the risks, pardon the pun.  Being obese obviously comes with alot of risk factors, therefore the medication may be the lesser of two evils for some.  The problem comes when someone who isn't obese wants to lose a few stone to look like someone in a magazine.

I just needs someone to die from it to be banned.
#2
Quote from: David McKeown on May 12, 2025, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2025, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: donelli on May 12, 2025, 10:08:22 AMThe new rules have been a badly needed. The 3 up has gave better shape to the game. touch and go is good and the keeper restrictions are brilliant. kick outs are great too.
1 rule i cant have though is the new one introduced where a player who catches a ball from the kickout cant be tackled for up to 8m etc. It not natural to see players step out of there way for what is normally a good midfield contest.
No idea why this was introduced as the catcher always had the option to call a mark if he wanted space to kick it.
The penalty is very severe and i've seen several club matches where the the ball receiver basically ran straight at his opponent and was rewarded with a free 50m towards goal.   

Its not a new rule though, the old Mark which this is, was always the case he couldn't be tackled for 4 meters and not 8m as you have stated..

I'm hearing this a lot in games and slightly confused as to why people think its new. the only difference is the player is given automatically that time after the catch without having to put his hand up, the ref still blows for the mark (if the player raises his hand he has to take the mark as normal) as he did before, but now players are backing away as its dissent if they tackle, that now brings 50meters rather than the original 13m had been tackled.

I think a lot of it depends on how it is refereed as well.  During the league and early part of the championship it seemed like every piece of contact including clearly accidentally contact on landing was being moved up (in games I was at) whereas now we are seeing sometimes clear violations being ignored.  I do think though its one of those where the punishment doesn't always really fit the crime.  A catch in crowded midfield where the player making the mark is obviously going backwards or side wards shouldn't result in a 40m kick for two points.  A cynical tackle to prevent a fast break might but how do you distinguish?

Yeah I'm all for that, its down to how the ref sees it as being deliberate or accidental, I've seen plenty of catches on tv and the player coming in behind lands on the person catching the ball, its not deliberate and the Mark should be just that or you can make a call that it's a free based on the other player landing on his back.

Deliberate is, my view anyways, and this isn't the technical term, if the player is acting the bollox, they are easy to spot.. 

You'll not see that term in the rules though ;D

I have for whatever reason seen it in intercounty games, not so much in club games
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Quote from: donelli on May 12, 2025, 10:08:22 AMThe new rules have been a badly needed. The 3 up has gave better shape to the game. touch and go is good and the keeper restrictions are brilliant. kick outs are great too.
1 rule i cant have though is the new one introduced where a player who catches a ball from the kickout cant be tackled for up to 8m etc. It not natural to see players step out of there way for what is normally a good midfield contest.
No idea why this was introduced as the catcher always had the option to call a mark if he wanted space to kick it.
The penalty is very severe and i've seen several club matches where the the ball receiver basically ran straight at his opponent and was rewarded with a free 50m towards goal.   

Its not a new rule though, the old Mark which this is, was always the case he couldn't be tackled for 4 meters and not 8m as you have stated..

I'm hearing this a lot in games and slightly confused as to why people think its new. the only difference is the player is given automatically that time after the catch without having to put his hand up, the ref still blows for the mark (if the player raises his hand he has to take the mark as normal) as he did before, but now players are backing away as its dissent if they tackle, that now brings 50meters rather than the original 13m had been tackled.
#4
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 12, 2025, 11:04:22 AMWeightwatchers have  filed for bankruptcy because of the rise in   weight loss jabs

Heard it from a few people lately , that  every other person seem to  be using  them

Seems like the  whole country has turned into clones of the  Kardashian's

Are they safe? Food companies will be filling for bankruptcy at this rate ;) 
#5
Is there a lot of it down to the club he is going to?
#6
General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
May 11, 2025, 11:45:18 PM
Bad but good form heading into the next major... Shane definitely has it in his locker so while he may hate himself for how he finished he should be looking at the next one.
#7
Quote from: David McKeown on May 11, 2025, 10:48:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 10:21:00 PMLook, there are positives and negatives with all the rules, anyone saying they are a huge success is going a bit over the top..

I've ref'd plenty and I've noticed nothing massively different to previous years.

Some levels of scoring is similar.

As a ref, the best is the dissent rule which had nullified the crap ya get

Well that's one positive but I still think there's better ways of achieving that.

I'm not sure there is if I'm being honest.. I'm zero tolerance to it even way before the 50m rule came in and it never stopped it, I'd go further to include the supporters lol..

Although I love a bitta banter I'm bored of the, they always foul us and we never win a free..

I also hate a player telling me that's a card, sorry, that'll be a hop ball now
#8
Look, there are positives and negatives with all the rules, anyone saying they are a huge success is going a bit over the top..

I've ref'd plenty and I've noticed nothing massively different to previous years.

Some levels of scoring is similar.

As a ref, the best is the dissent rule which had nullified the crap ya get
#9
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2025
May 11, 2025, 09:25:38 PM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on May 11, 2025, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 10, 2025, 08:08:06 PMClare are out after losing to Tip. They gave Tip a 4 goal headstart which was too much to overcome in the inevitable second half comeback. Clare were badly hit by injuries to some of their best players this year.
Or simply Clare are no great shakes!

They were all Ireland champions, Tipp since 2019 haven't be great shakes
#10
Teams always could run down the clock by keeping possession, our seniors did it for years, they were controlled and confident on the ball

Now knowing what's exactly left doesn't really change things for me
#11
Seeds smeeds...

To win Sam you've got to be the best and beat the teams in front of you.

Group stages at this point means the best teams generally get through to the knockout stages..

It's just a bitta revenue boost to Croke in my opinion
#12
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2025
May 11, 2025, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: naka on May 11, 2025, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: naka on May 11, 2025, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMThink he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMTh

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.




I genuinely it was a massive call simply because of the time of the free.
Just like goughs decision, referee calls do win and lose games as much as scores
For me it was a free
But as I said two weeks if will be forgone in the context of the season.


Him giving that free in the first few minutes of the game or last has no bearing on what that team does during it. Games are won and lost over the whole time, not the last seconds of extra time. It's cruel that it is late on but that's part of the game.
Chuckling Milltown
Spoken like a true referee
Let's agree to differ



I'm not saying that as a ref btw.. I've played and managed, I've walked off from a losing game annoyed over decisions going against me or the team but more annoyed that we'd lost chances to win the game..

But if it's easier to have a scapegoat, then the ref can fill your boots
#13
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2025
May 11, 2025, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: naka on May 11, 2025, 09:11:46 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMThink he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AMTh

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.




I genuinely it was a massive call simply because of the time of the free.
Just like goughs decision, referee calls do win and lose games as much as scores
For me it was a free
But as I said two weeks if will be forgone in the context of the season.


Him giving that free in the first few minutes of the game or last has no bearing on what that team does during it. Games are won and lost over the whole time, not the last seconds of extra time. It's cruel that it is late on but that's part of the game.
#14
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2025
May 11, 2025, 08:25:05 AM
Think he was trying to buy a free, as a ref I hate that look up at ya, it's like you're begging for a free.

I just seen it live and thought it was just about the correct decision.

Another ref could have given him a free, the match though isn't won or lost on those moments, it's because of the time of free that people think it's momentous.

The BBC went to town on it, purely for a story, some what over egging things, which for me makes it look a bit juvenile

Not sticking up for the ref but the bits I seen (was watching the hurling mainly) he looked like in control and wasn't much controversial decisions
#15
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2025
May 10, 2025, 08:23:21 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 10, 2025, 08:08:06 PMClare are out after losing to Tip. They gave Tip a 4 goal headstart which was too much to overcome in the inevitable second half comeback. Clare were badly hit by injuries to some of their best players this year.

Amazing game but Clare just gave Tipp too much of a start.. that said they had chances to draw, or even win it