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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #60 on: February 01, 2023, 09:06:06 AM »
Its fecking confusing for clubs now. Why not make a decision to change to u18 in 2024 and stick with it. The hierarchy would do your head in.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #61 on: February 01, 2023, 09:58:18 AM »
It is going out to Tyrone clubs next week for a vote on u13/15/17/19 v u14/16/18/20, two weeks after they announced start dates for u13/15/17/19 but before Central Council U-turned.

What are they doing about the GO Games ages? U7.5 / U9.5 and U11.5

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #62 on: February 01, 2023, 10:57:03 AM »
It is going out to Tyrone clubs next week for a vote on u13/15/17/19 v u14/16/18/20, two weeks after they announced start dates for u13/15/17/19 but before Central Council U-turned.

What are they doing about the GO Games ages? U7.5 / U9.5 and U11.5

U6.5, U8.5 and U10.5, U12 etc etc.


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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2023, 12:11:15 PM »
Another fine mess created needlessly by the GAA. Most clubs have appointed managers to their varying teams and so to land them with this when training has already begun for many, is just very poor planning. I think it should have reverted back to 14, 16 & 18 but it is too late for this year for clubs to begin changing everything last minute. This should have been sorted in the Autumn time at the latest.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2023, 01:44:06 PM »
What a mess, yet again.

If the decision was to let counties decide why was this not made prior to Christmas?
It is now too late for this year.  For example, Armagh had already decided to go with the odd numbered years (same as last year) as it would have been too late to change following the anticipated decision from Congress last week.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2023, 01:56:36 PM »
The GAA leadership now resembles a public body in terms of decision making - slow, reactionary, laboured, No responsibility or accountability.

Endless committees that end up hiding behind congress.

This another matter that should have been long sorted but now thrown out to the counties in a matter of fact way.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2023, 02:34:31 PM »
It is going out to Tyrone clubs next week for a vote on u13/15/17/19 v u14/16/18/20, two weeks after they announced start dates for u13/15/17/19 but before Central Council U-turned.

What are they doing about the GO Games ages? U7.5 / U9.5 and U11.5

U6.5, U8.5 and U10.5, U12 etc etc.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2023, 02:35:43 PM »
If counties go to u18 then the current u17 group have been shafted again. Its a bloody disgrace and there is no ownership. Make a fecking decision and stop kicking the can down the road

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2023, 09:26:46 PM »
If counties go to u18 then the current u17 group have been shafted again. Its a bloody disgrace and there is no ownership. Make a fecking decision and stop kicking the can down the road
Why have they been shafted? They still get to be final year minors next year. The change down was a bigger mess.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2023, 09:28:43 PM »
In Tyrone the season has been reordered with Juveniles playing in the Spring and Minors and u13s later in the year, a reverse on previous seasons. Is this centrally mandated or is it a Tyrone only thing?

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2023, 09:50:15 AM »
Three options on the table;;


National Policy on Club Age Grades
1. Maintain the core club championship age grades nationally at club level as U13/15/17 with decoupling nationally remaining at U17. At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U17 and Adult in this circumstance.

2. A county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so provided they adopt an internal bye law to decouple at U18 (i.e. in such Counties U18s would not be permitted to playing Adult competition). At least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) should be organized between U18 and Adult in this circumstance.

3. Alternatively, a county that wishes to organize competitions at even age grades only (12/14/16/18) may do so, and retain decoupling at 17 with at least one further age grade (as suits the particular needs of the County) being organized between U18 and Adult. Players in their 18th year will only be allowed to play for or train with Adult teams post March 1st and once the signed consent of the player, their parents/guardians and the Club Executive has been provided. The Task Force also recommends that no player should have to play an Adult and U18 game within 60 hours of each other and request County CCCs to adhere to this policy.


In relation to Part 3 of the policy, it is envisaged that permission would be sought on a standard Association form (possibly digitally under the new Foireann system).The form would require to be submitted in the period from March 1st - April 1St and would essentially mean that a plyer in his 18th year would be ineligible for adult competition until post March 1st annually (i.e. until the school games programme is winding down).The form will alert those involved to the risks around burnout/overtraining/overuse injuries for players in their 18th year playing with and training for multiple teams across the Youth and Adult games programmes.


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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #71 on: February 15, 2023, 08:18:22 AM »
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41071787.html?fbclid=IwAR1y_vCbjWQHO9Tv64E-WmB4QgZRaf2xgqGwd3Qi-9f6VY0X4ST4choe2zI

what ie he crying about. Did he not know 18 year olds played senior football for years, its not so long ago 15 and 16 year olds would play ffs.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2023, 09:14:18 AM »
And they'd play u16 and Minor and schools and County development squad....
Many of them still playing at 25?
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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2023, 09:31:31 AM »
And they'd play u16 and Minor and schools and County development squad....
Many of them still playing at 25?
How many lads coming out of minors at 17 will still be playing at 25. Lack of football puts off a lot more players than too much football.


Last year players under 17 could not play Senior, those over 17 could. It is still the same this year. The difference is those aged between 17 and 18 can now still have minor football to play. From reading his rant he seems more concerned about scheduling than welfare.

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Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« Reply #74 on: February 15, 2023, 10:36:35 AM »
With 252 Clubs I'd say scheduling is always a headache in Cork.
18s playing Minor and Adult will of course have a major effect on scheduling.
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