Injuries, any clubs suffering from multiple hamstring injuries?

Started by Milltown Row2, May 09, 2012, 07:57:32 PM

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Milltown Row2

Season is only a few games in and our club seems to be suffering from a spate of injuries recently, mainly hamstring.

Are there any other clubs out there that seem to be suffering from this?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Milltown Row2

Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Hashtag

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?

A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.

INDIANA

Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?

A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.

yoga.

you'll never pull a hamstring again

ballinaman

Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?

A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.

yoga.

you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 07:57:32 PM
Season is only a few games in and our club seems to be suffering from a spate of injuries recently, mainly hamstring.

Are there any other clubs out there that seem to be suffering from this?

Wouldn't have happened under Lenny :P

Yoga is very good apparently though I have never had to avail of it.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 07:57:32 PM
Season is only a few games in and our club seems to be suffering from a spate of injuries recently, mainly hamstring.

Are there any other clubs out there that seem to be suffering from this?

Wouldn't have happened under Lenny :P

Yoga is very good apparently though I have never had to avail of it.

He'd other injuries that hit the team ;)

Looking at the types of training methods done nowadays it really is up there with professionalism, but the lads are not allowing proper recovery times or stretching as they should. Big factor for me is what Hashstag posted also
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Dinny Breen

Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?

A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.

yoga.

you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.

Yep I would also suggest you buy two tennis balls, tape them together and work on the piriformis, hamstring and IT-Band and make sure you work out any knots in the muscle

something like this

Piriformis
#newbridgeornowhere

neilthemac

instead of clubs spending small fortunes on outside managers and physios

a few sessions with a proper strength and conditioning coach and educating players how to look after themselves will prevent most injuries during the season
foam rolling, stretching, mobility exercises, gymwork

ballinaman

Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?

A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.

yoga.

you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.

Yep I would also suggest you buy two tennis balls, tape them together and work on the piriformis, hamstring and IT-Band and make sure you work out any knots in the muscle

something like this

Piriformis
Spot on Dinny. I've been dry needling the piriformis now for some time and have got great results. 75mm needle directly into the piriformis and you get a serious release.

North Longford

Make sure Quads/Hip flexors are addressed too...any restriction/tightness will have an impact on the Hamstrings. Pelvic stability... Gmed/min strength deficits can also cause an overloading of the hamstrings.....far more of us sitting on our rear ends all day which these babies aren't always enamored with.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: North Longford on May 10, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
Make sure Quads/Hip flexors are addressed too...any restriction/tightness will have an impact on the Hamstrings. Pelvic stability... Gmed/min strength deficits can also cause an overloading of the hamstrings.....far more of us sitting on our rear ends all day which these babies aren't always enamored with.

Exactly most gluts these days are just cushions.
#newbridgeornowhere

AZOffaly

Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 10, 2012, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Hashtag on May 09, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 09, 2012, 09:19:20 PM
Think we have had 3 so far.

Have training methods changed lately? The pitches have got better over the years so heavy pitches are not as common as before. The design of boots have certainly changed over the years, would this be a cause?

A lot of teams seem to train using smaller more compact drills/condition games. The legs/body is getting used to these short sharp bursts. whenever players have to sprint/move over longer distances at high speed like in real matches then the body can't take it. It hasn't trained for it.
Open out your training.

yoga.

you'll never pull a hamstring again
Foam roll lower back and gluts with some hip mobility exercises do the job also.

Yep I would also suggest you buy two tennis balls, tape them together and work on the piriformis, hamstring and IT-Band and make sure you work out any knots in the muscle

something like this

Piriformis
Spot on Dinny. I've been dry needling the piriformis now for some time and have got great results. 75mm needle directly into the piriformis and you get a serious release.

Can you explain what that means?

ballinaman

Dry Needling is technique used to release specific trigger points (knots) in muscles. The needles are similar to those used in acupuncture however the rationale behind their use is different. The needles are solid, differ in length are are about the width of a strand of hair. Its a strong distinctive sensation when a trigger point is released.

Nice video of low back needling here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptXDbYaBec

AZOffaly

And you do it yourself???? Or do you go to an accupuncturist or something?