Scottish independence referendum thread

Started by deiseach, September 07, 2014, 11:36:16 AM

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If you have/had a vote, how will/would you vote?

Yes
122 (87.8%)
No
17 (12.2%)

Total Members Voted: 139

Voting closed: September 18, 2014, 11:36:16 AM

RedHand88

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
The sport argument is a big thing in it which will impact it greatly and JK Rowling's views on it I would say are huge too because she can't exactly be accused of being a big right winger etc.

That's it like. She's left wing on basically every other issue. But because she deviates from their left wing argument on this one issue she gets threatened with a pipe bomb and has her address revealed online.

These people are nuts.

imtommygunn

She has appeared in a podcast with Megan Raphoe on the subject. I read the article on it but haven't listened to it. Same with anything these days - way more nuances than a black or white thing yet a lot of people try to break it down to black and white and then if you don't you're terrible.

Armagh18

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 16, 2023, 07:40:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
The sport argument is a big thing in it which will impact it greatly and JK Rowling's views on it I would say are huge too because she can't exactly be accused of being a big right winger etc.

That's it like. She's left wing on basically every other issue. But because she deviates from their left wing argument on this one issue she gets threatened with a pipe bomb and has her address revealed online.

These people are nuts.
I really don't get the hate she gets tbh. She's a terf apparently whatever that means

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 16, 2023, 08:46:47 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 16, 2023, 07:40:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 16, 2023, 07:37:54 PM
The sport argument is a big thing in it which will impact it greatly and JK Rowling's views on it I would say are huge too because she can't exactly be accused of being a big right winger etc.

That's it like. She's left wing on basically every other issue. But because she deviates from their left wing argument on this one issue she gets threatened with a pipe bomb and has her address revealed online.

These people are nuts.
I really don't get the hate she gets tbh. She's a terf apparently whatever that means
Trans exclusionary radical female. A normal woman.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnnycool

Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2023, 05:53:34 PM
Hopefully this lad can lead them back to independence

https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2023/0327/1366495-scotland/

Stolen from Twitter;

"An Indian origin British PM and Pakistani origin Scottish First Minister potentially discussing the Partition of the United Kingdom is a hell of an Uno Reverse"

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

In Ireland in 1910 you had a similar situation with Unionists wanting to stay and Nationalists wanting to leave. Nothing changed the situation until 1916 and the executions. Scotland will be stuck in stasis until something big happens like economic collapse.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

RedHand88

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65187823

Would this be why she stepped down? Did she know this was coming? Was the transgender prisoner thing a red herring?

marty34

Quote from: RedHand88 on April 05, 2023, 10:37:32 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65187823

Would this be why she stepped down? Did she know this was coming? Was the transgender prisoner thing a red herring?

Was thinking that myself.

Jumped before she was pushed.

I wonder will it do the SNP any longer term harm?

seafoid

Sturgeon brought the nationalists as far as she could. Organic developments are not going to bring them over the line.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Main Street

Talk about overkill,  you'd think they were investigating someone of the calibre of Fred West instead of a bit of fraud.

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armaghniac

it is overkill, they could probably have phoned the guy and asked him to come down to the station for a chat.

I find it hard to believe that he was looting the funds, unless he took a large amount then it simply wouldn't be worth it given that himself and the missus had reasonable prospects anyhow.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Shades of the infamous raid on Stormont......
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

RedHand88

I know one thing anyway. Scottish independence is done for a long long time.