Scottish independence referendum thread

Started by deiseach, September 07, 2014, 11:36:16 AM

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If you have/had a vote, how will/would you vote?

Yes
122 (87.8%)
No
17 (12.2%)

Total Members Voted: 139

Voting closed: September 18, 2014, 11:36:16 AM


johnnycool

Quote from: bennydorano on September 13, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
The Queen dying on Scottish soil will be some boost for the Unionist cause. If Nicola went asking about another Referendum now she'd get one no bother - because she'd lose.

English woman on TV stating that she filed past the Queens coffin seven times whilst it lay in state in Edinburgh would tell you something about Scotland's place in the UK and it's relationship with the Monarchy....

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: johnnycool on September 15, 2022, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 13, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
The Queen dying on Scottish soil will be some boost for the Unionist cause. If Nicola went asking about another Referendum now she'd get one no bother - because she'd lose.

English woman on TV stating that she filed past the Queens coffin seven times whilst it lay in state in Edinburgh would tell you something about Scotland's place in the UK and it's relationship with the Monarchy....

The Scots wont go, I have been saying this for years- they are very much British when it comes to it. We have fought the British constantly on and off for centuries, they gave up a long time ago

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

general_lee

How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.

Rossfan

SNP biggest and most popular Party but never get over 50% of vote.
Mind you Greens are also pro Independence and between them they have a pro Independence majority in Holyrood.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.
Southern Ireland wasn't always pro independence. You need a shock to shift conservative people. In the South it was Irish Independent readers. The shock was 1916.
In Scotland it could be pensions collapsing.
You need at least 75% for independence.

51% gives you clusterfucks such as Brexit.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

imtommygunn

Economics comes into it too. The time for Scotland to strike is now - the uk government is one of the most corrupt and incompetent in their history and it only looks to be getting worse.Cost of living a big selling point for independence.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: seafoid on September 15, 2022, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.
Southern Ireland wasn't always pro independence. You need a shock to shift conservative people. In the South it was Irish Independent readers. The shock was 1916.
In Scotland it could be pensions collapsing.
You need at least 75% for independence.

51% gives you clusterfucks such as Brexit.

And we are planning for a plus 1

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.

They have no back bone-shite the tights in general

yellowcard

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 15, 2022, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 15, 2022, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.
Southern Ireland wasn't always pro independence. You need a shock to shift conservative people. In the South it was Irish Independent readers. The shock was 1916.
In Scotland it could be pensions collapsing.
You need at least 75% for independence.

51% gives you clusterfucks such as Brexit.

And we are planning for a plus 1

Not comparable though since a new Ireland would be very unlikely to be split down the middle after unity. Its more likely to be 70/30 or greater when you incorporate the entire island population.   

Itchy

Quote from: seafoid on September 15, 2022, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.
Southern Ireland wasn't always pro independence. You need a shock to shift conservative people. In the South it was Irish Independent readers. The shock was 1916.
In Scotland it could be pensions collapsing.
You need at least 75% for independence.

51% gives you clusterfucks such as Brexit.

Horse shite

Main Street

Quote from: johnnycool on September 15, 2022, 09:06:58 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 13, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
The Queen dying on Scottish soil will be some boost for the Unionist cause. If Nicola went asking about another Referendum now she'd get one no bother - because she'd lose.

English woman on TV stating that she filed past the Queens coffin seven times whilst it lay in state in Edinburgh would tell you something about Scotland's place in the UK and it's relationship with the Monarchy....
I think that tells how much people took to the Queen. It will be a different story with Charles.
The Queen was a positive symbol of 'Britishness', now that she's gone, there are those who opine that the sense of 'Britishness'  will lessen in Scotland. 

We don't know yet how Charles will fulfill the role, many suspect he will enact many new ideas and roll back on the pomp.



Rossfan

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 15, 2022, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.

They have no back bone-shite the tights in general
Credit to the 45% who voted to make their Country a normal Independent State.
As for the rest... how many were committed pro Unionists?
How many were scared by nonsense like Ye'll get no pensions or what currency will ye use?
Can you imagine Pearse and Connolly turning back outside the GPO because they hadn't decided on a currency?
The EU argument no doubt swayed some as well but now they need Independence to get back to the EU.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

red hander

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 15, 2022, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 15, 2022, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 15, 2022, 10:21:42 AM
How will they not go? They keep voting SNP.
Southern Ireland wasn't always pro independence. You need a shock to shift conservative people. In the South it was Irish Independent readers. The shock was 1916.
In Scotland it could be pensions collapsing.
You need at least 75% for independence.

51% gives you clusterfucks such as Brexit.

And we are planning for a plus 1

That's all it will take. Days of unionist veto and gerrymandering are over. If it's good enough to retain their rotten Union, it's good enough to end it.