Scottish independence referendum thread

[Rossfan]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19165923.john-swinney-addresses-allegations-snp-made-tory-mp-david-davis/

[Rossfan]

Draft Referendum Bill published and Nicola cleared of allegations of breaking Ministerial code.

[sid waddell]

Draft Referendum Bill published and Nicola cleared of allegations of breaking Ministerial code.

Time for Priti Patel to resign so

[Main Street]

Draft Referendum Bill published and Nicola cleared of allegations of breaking Ministerial code.

Nic was cleared by a neutral investigation.  It's the height of farce that any politician be investigated by a panel of  politicians, including opposition politicians who blatantly  put self intrest first and breach one of the the fundamental foundations of law and ethics, namely conflict of interest. When conflict of interest is breached, the ethics panel member should stand down immediately, yet this Scot parliament panel ploughed on with a blatantl overt bias against the accused and leaked documents to the  Brit government for crooked purposes. 

[johnnycool]

Draft Referendum Bill published and Nicola cleared of allegations of breaking Ministerial code.

Nic was cleared by a neutral investigation.  It's the height of farce that any politician be investigated by a panel of  politicians, including opposition politicians who blatantly  put self intrest first and breach one of the the fundamental foundations of law and ethics, namely conflict of interest. When conflict of interest is breached, the ethics panel member should stand down immediately, yet this Scot parliament panel ploughed on with a blatantl overt bias against the accused and leaked documents to the  Brit government for crooked purposes.

Saw a few tweets from Andrew Neil. He must be gutted as he and the Spectator are gunning for Nicola for fear the SNP gain and outright majority in the Holyrood elections coming up.

[bennydorano]

The Unionist parties think Andrew Neil is an asset - I'd imagine the Nationalists think he's an asset for them too. Interesting Election ahead.

[sid waddell]

More than a bit hypocritical of Douglas Ross to reject the findings of the independent referee James Hamilton

Should be shown the red card for dissent

Andrew Neil is about as much of an asset to the Scottish Unionist campaign as Lord Haw Haw would be to a united Ireland campaign

[bennydorano]

Salmond must be getting money from MI5 or something.

BBC News - Former SNP leader Alex Salmond launches new political party
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56539696

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Salmond must be getting money from MI5 or something.

BBC News - Former SNP leader Alex Salmond launches new political party
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-56539696

It wont be a bad thing in the long run. It may split some votes and cost Westminster seats but for every other election including a Referendum it can only help get more votes out

[Rossfan]

I see they're only going to stand in the List oart of the election  so won't be splitting the votes in the Constituency part.

Hopefully things will go as per this Opinion poll
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19188728.snp-track-secure-majority-voters-put-trust-nicola-sturgeon/

[bennydorano]

Kenny MacAskill MP (East Lothian) has left the Scottish National Party and joined the Alba Party.

Twitter - Britain Elects

[Lar Naparka]

I see they're only going to stand in the List oart of the election  so won't be splitting the votes in the Constituency part.

Hopefully things will go as per this Opinion poll
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19188728.snp-track-secure-majority-voters-put-trust-nicola-sturgeon/

Ross, I know as much about the Scottish referendum movement as sid does about the Irish Civil War so, as always, I turn to you for guidance.
List vs Constituency??
Can you please enlighten an ignoramus?

[armaghniac]

I see they're only going to stand in the List oart of the election  so won't be splitting the votes in the Constituency part.

Hopefully things will go as per this Opinion poll
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19188728.snp-track-secure-majority-voters-put-trust-nicola-sturgeon/

Ross, I know as much about the Scottish referendum movement as sid does about the Irish Civil War so, as always, I turn to you for guidance.
List vs Constituency??
Can you please enlighten an ignoramus?

In Scotland they don't use STV multi-seat constituencies for the parliament although they do for the local councils.
The lists is a party list and is used to balance things up. So the Greens might not come first in any constituency, but a lot of people might support them and since they didn't win any constituency seats they would get a few on the list.

In the case of Salmond's new Alba party, if he ran in constituencies then he might split the nationalist vote and some Tory or Lib Dem might get in instead. But in the list it is multi seat and you could vote for the SNP guy in the constituency and plump for Alba on the list.

[Lar Naparka]

I see they're only going to stand in the List oart of the election  so won't be splitting the votes in the Constituency part.

Hopefully things will go as per this Opinion poll
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19188728.snp-track-secure-majority-voters-put-trust-nicola-sturgeon/

Ross, I know as much about the Scottish referendum movement as sid does about the Irish Civil War so, as always, I turn to you for guidance.
List vs Constituency??
Can you please enlighten an ignoramus?

In Scotland they don't use STV multi-seat constituencies for the parliament although they do for the local councils.
The lists is a party list and is used to balance things up. So the Greens might not come first in any constituency, but a lot of people might support them and since they didn't win any constituency seats they would get a few on the list.

In the case of Salmond's new Alba party, if he ran in constituencies then he might split the nationalist vote and some Tory or Lib Dem might get in instead. But in the list it is multi seat and you could vote for the SNP guy in the constituency and plump for Alba on the list.

Thanks very much. I get the idea now.

[ned]

I see they're only going to stand in the List oart of the election  so won't be splitting the votes in the Constituency part.

Hopefully things will go as per this Opinion poll
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19188728.snp-track-secure-majority-voters-put-trust-nicola-sturgeon/

Ross, I know as much about the Scottish referendum movement as sid does about the Irish Civil War so, as always, I turn to you for guidance.
List vs Constituency??
Can you please enlighten an ignoramus?

In Scotland they don't use STV multi-seat constituencies for the parliament although they do for the local councils.
The lists is a party list and is used to balance things up. So the Greens might not come first in any constituency, but a lot of people might support them and since they didn't win any constituency seats they would get a few on the list.

In the case of Salmond's new Alba party, if he ran in constituencies then he might split the nationalist vote and some Tory or Lib Dem might get in instead. But in the list it is multi seat and you could vote for the SNP guy in the constituency and plump for Alba on the list.

Thanks very much. I get the idea now.

Although it is complicated further by splitting of the list vote, dependent on how many constituency MSPs are returned for that party. This means if a party sweeps the board in the constituency vote, their list vote may be diluted. Theory is this prevents one party winning a big majority unless they have a massive percentage of the vote. So in some areas, if you vote SNP, for example, it may be better giving your list vote to another party.