Scottish independence referendum thread

[LondonCamanachd]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shinty-for-Yes/

Not the biggest movement, but still representing those who wish to be identified as such.

[theskull1]

What a difference a week makes   

[Eamonnca1]

What a difference a week makes   

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29342142

Fixed it for you.

[theskull1]

Cheers

[armaghniac]

With more than half the vote and a first past the post system polls suggest that the SNP will win almost all of the Westminster seats in Scotland, reducing Labour  from 41 to four and the Lib Dems and Tories to zero. Labour has really lost ground because of the referendum.

[seanf]

The SNP could well win the popular vote but take hardly any extra seats

[omaghjoe]

The SNP could well win the popular vote but take hardly any extra seats

Ehh? How'd ye figure that one out?

Considering they currently only have 5 seats out of 60 at the moment if they win the popular vote it would pretty much be impossible for them not to win a ton of extra seats.

[armaghniac]

In the first past the post system once you get ahead you win big.

[omaghjoe]

In the first past the post system once you get ahead you win big.

Somethin like that musta happened tonight in the Athletic grounds ehh?

[Maguire01]

The SNP could well win the popular vote but take hardly any extra seats

Given that you don't need to be anywhere close to 50% to take a seat in a FPTP election, the reality is the very opposite of what you say. If they win the popular vote, they'll clean up, but could do so with a much smaller proportion.

[deiseach]

Given the rotten borough nature of Westminster constituencies - the smallest non-island constituency in Scotland has a population of 47,572, the largest a population of 82,473* - it is plausible that the SNP could be the largest party and not win the most seats. But it's unlikely they wouldn't win a lot of extra seats. And once you have a plurality it doesn't take many extra votes for you to go from 'a lot' to 'the lot'.

*stats culled from Wikipedia

[armaghniac]

If the SNP vote was very geographically concentrated they might fail to get a full haul of seats, but they have now made progress in all areas.

On an aside, the SNP complained about not being on TV debates when UKIP were. The BBC made some plan for the SNP and now Robinson wants the DUP in on the act.

[omaghjoe]

One year on and how the landscape has changed...

Almost all of Scotland's Westminster MPs are SNP, plus they took 50% of all votes cast.

Two recent polls finding a majority of Scots are now Pro Independence

Another Tory government was voted in to the loathe of the Scots

A looming Brexit

So..
Was the Indy ref that lit the fuse that is sending our closest neighbours on a unstoppable train toward secession?

Or did the Scots miss the boat?

Or is this all simply a trend that will likely fizzle away with the next political fashion?

[OakleafCounty]

Inevitably not everyone will stick with the SNP if/when they don't deliver everything they aim for. If your talking around another 15 years before a referendum the unionist cause might find a way with engaging the public without the stupid scaremongering tactics they have been using.

[ashman]

Oil prices fooked!!!!!