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I watched one of those tales of the unexpected when I was a kid. It was about someone in prison who hatched a plan to escape with the undertaker who would bury her with the dead body then dig her out. She got in with the dead body and it was the undertaker so she was buried alive. Don't think I have recovered yet from it!

Yeah that one was good.

Tales of the Unexpected was a real freaky show, never realised it was Roald Dahl that wrote them.

Thon boy must have been on something.

I think Irvine Welsh must have been a big fan.

[Hillman Hunters.]

Hillman Hunters.
6d bits.

Learned how to drive in one of these. In a barley field that had just been cut. Took out a few stooks of bales in the process.

[logical]

I find it amusing that some people are trying to berate SF for their lack of involvement in one of the biggest farces in British Political History  (not Irish politics). If you oppose a foreign occupation in your country is their any argument for engaging in their political system. Some people on here are no better than politicians in Westminster that has taken a task voted for by their people and instead of implementing it have turned the whole process into internal pissing contest where no one seems to be gaining any ground over the other. As for the DUP it's getting to the stage where they should be physiologically anlylised for some sort of narcissism disorder. Every single time they adopt the polar opposite of the logical direction even to the detriment of their electorate at times.

Logic and the DUP shouldn't be in the same sentence.

The DUP are in a sticky wicket and apart from Nigels spiel about it being better to remain in the EU than to jeopardise the precious Union they've very much remained on point through this.

That saying IF the Tories don't get a Brexit of sorts through I think they'll not forget the DUP for it. There'll be no Sirs or Lords for a while anyway.

[DUP & SF both around 0.01%. One has a lot more MP's in WM than the other.]

It's so f**king frustrating the way the DUP are allowed to run around Westminster wielding a disproportionate amount of power for their electoral size. Nationalism should be in there. Our voice should be heard. At this moment in time, in 11 days time, a border will appear on this island. Paperwork, checks, declarations. It is all on its way unless this madness is stopped.

That is FPTP for you.
Lib Dems and UKIP both on around 8%. One has a lot more MP's in WM than the other.
Greens and SNP both on 3%. One has a lot more MP's in WM than the other.
DUP & SF both around 0.01%. One has a lot more MP's in WM than the other.

Hardly anything to do with FPTP when you run on an abstentionist ticket and don't take your seats.

Sinn Fein really can't take their seats in Westminster as ultimately they're a one agenda party, i.e. United Ireland or bust. Taking their seats in the UK Government would be totally contrary to that aim.
It would be like UKIP suddenly deciding Brexit was a bad idea and canvassing for article 50 to be revoked. They'd no longer be UKIP.

A lot of the older diggers only need one of these yolks to start them;



Two to a penny in those circles.

The new goalkeeper seems to be getting as jittery as Mingulet.  Who is the goalkeeping coach at Liverpool?

That must have been him wearing the marle grey shorts with the big wet patch who relieved himself when the OG went in.

[a simple side foot into the net from 8 yards out]

Agreed, he wanted Sissoko to take the shot not Son, trying to push him onto his left, I thought it was smart defending as well. Tbh, regardless of what happens the rest of this season, there are a few players that probably need moved on. Henderson should be on that list, he just isn't good enough at that top, top level. Works hard, good lad, but average enough. I'd imagine this will be it for him. Milners a little different as he can cover multiple positions.

The narrative is wholly dependent on the outcome.

In reality, VVD left an international premiership footballer with a simple side foot into the net from 8 yards out. Sissoko might be a poor finisher but he should stlll score that 9 times out of 10. At which point nobody will describe it as a lesson in how to to defend.

I'd need to watch that again, but I thought it was further out and by pushing Sissoko out left onto his weaker foot he also allowed the keeper a better chance of getting his angles right to save the shot.
Sissoko really should have hit the target and probably should have scored but you could tell he was uncomfortable in that position and was looking to play Son in.

VVD prevented him from doing so.

Good defending, but hardly rocket science.

15 amp plugs

With round pins!

I remember the Breadman who would have been the worse for wear on a Saturday afternoon    if he'd called into a few hostelies on his round.

Also the Braid and Maine lemonade carts called on a Saturday afternoon with the big glass bottles you got money back on the following week.

Remember the glass milk bottles in the blue crates and the cream sitting on the top of them. We needed to put a bit of ply wood on the top of ours to stop the birds pecking holes in the silver lids.

Just seeing the video clip of Ian Paisley junior giving a rabble rousing speech in Parliament Square last night. You would be forgiven for thinking you had been transported back 35 years and it was his father stood there stirring up hatred and fear. It's hard to reconcile that with the comments of Nigel Dodds earlier in the day stating that he would accept remain rather than Theresa May's deal.

I think there must be some internal disagreements within the DUP between the hardliners like Sammy Wilson and Paisley junior on one hand and Donaldson, Robinson and Simon Hamilton on the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldv570I_W2w

Quote from the good book         [tick]
Persecution complex                 [tick]
Light on substance                    [tick]
Mention Ulster out of context     [tick]
Finish with No Surrender           [tick]

Wonder who writes his speeches?

Limerick in their first league final in 13 years.

That was some goal scored by Guillane there yesterday from a driven ball in from defence, just flicked in totally caught the keeper off guard.
Limerick are a serious outfit with a good chance of putting two AI's together. If they can get out of Munster.

Apparently a lot of Labour MP's are now being effectively bribed with money for their constituencies and some of them are rumoured to be signing up to the deal.

Where is that money gonna come from?

As far as the UK economy is concerned: Brexit = Broke

The same magic money tree that fluttered £1B plus to us/DUP

[loyalist team for a loyalist people]

I would never support the NI football team for the simple reason that I don't even believe the statelet has the right to exist in the first place. I am sure every nationalist agrees with me and tbh I find it really difficult to understand how any catholic could support them let alone go to their games.

NI is a deeply sectarian place [hold the front page] as a result of the words and actions of the very people who are the OWC's biggest supporters. The same people looking us to go to Windsor and support NI are the exact same people who are swaggering down the streets all summer every summer, putting up offensive flags and beating a big drum and hoping that the fenians are cowering in their hovels, too afraid to come out.

The NI team is a lightning rod for these type of people and should be anathema for any self respecting Irish person IMO. Just because the bigots mostly manage to suppress their hatred for all things Irish/Catholic for a couple of hours while at the match does not change the fact that its a loyalist team for a loyalist people.

For those who say this is a 2 way street and that nationalists are also sectarian, that is just another excuse to pander to loyalist sectarianism.

It is Unionists who have fostered and fomented sectarianism in NI to keep their perceived supremacy over the fenians for centuries. This video is just a small example of that hatred being expressed for all the world to see.

The IFA 'Football For All' is a just a different version of Terence O'Neills 'treat them all right and they will become just like good protestants' as far as I am concerned.

Do you generalize much?

Do these songs not come across as sectarian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrxRmEvW9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tffBhuUpZn0

Past Celtic players/manager like Rogan, O'Neill and Lennon were they Loyalist puppets also?

Too say that you think it's a one way street in relation to sectarianism is bollix (IMO) you are either blind to it or don't hear it. Is there one side more at it? Possibly and the summer marches and the likes of the Orange order fuel it, if you go looking for it you'll see it.

Not supporting the N.I team is fine, I wouldn't go anywhere near it and I only lived 10 minute walk away from it, and was there for the infamous Donegal Celtic Linfield game many moons ago.
But I've been in plenty bars during certain games and the language directed at certain teams is sectarian for sure, but you keep in the bubble just like the rest you have mentioned and we'll continue to have the same intrenched views. "we're better than themuns"

Context is everything, I absolutely love the song Grace having bought an album with Jim McCann's incredible version on it at least 20 years ago, the Celtic Symphony is a good tune to, in the context of Conlon's fight I doubt there was an intention to offend, the banner at the game is definitely offensive. But support for the IRA (which I don't espouse) is political rather than sectarian, but no less offensive in certain circumstances. Singing about hating Kafflics is sectarian. Whether you like them or not Republican songs tend to be political rather than being up to your neck in protestant blood.

I'd seriously doubt that those with the banner are that nuanced in their bigotry.

Just replace cathliks with praddystants and yis all would love it

Your probably not far off the mark as look at how we regaled at Steve Coogan's character Martin Brennan singing the men behind the wire on TV. It was certainly a WTF moment.
But say that was a character like Wilson from Larne singing the billy boys.
I'd bet the nationalist sensitivities would be every much as annoyed as the other way round.

Bunch of drunks singing a load of shite in a pub, not much the IFA can do about that other than what they have done.

Spotlight tonight, you could not get tired of smashing Poots smirking face in

The lad beside him wasn't long telling him that they're about to get screwed over any time soon by Tory nationalists just like they always do and that he believed that the DUP weren't doing Unionism any favours with their tack in Westminster.

Edwin didn't do himself any favours but by god Máirtín ó Muilleoir really isn't good at these debates. He can't help himself trying to get digs in about the DUP at every cut and turn when he really shouldn't allow the likes of Brexit become a Orange/Green debate. It's more fundamental than that and if he sticks to the economics and that alone then the Shinners may be better placed to get economic unionists to sway towards a UI if Brexit does go badly.
I get that the Shinners want to change the narrative that the DUP peddle that it is Sinn Fein holding up Stormont, but bide your time.

[Jolene Bunting]

According to Claire Byrne last night Sammy Wilson spoke passionately to ERG last night and was greet with applause, cheering and table thumping.

Then this from Mogg today...

Also on the thread of Claire Byrne there was a councilor called Jolene Bunting speaking from the audience.  Interesting for an EU critic she struggle to pronounce "undemocratic" and "bureaucratic".  Her demeanor seem so strange I googled her.  Jesus wept, even by Northern Ireland standards this lady is a prize beaut.

/Jim.

Welcome to our world /Jim