Derry Club Football & Hurling original

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GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Saynotodrugs on September 28, 2020, 07:37:43 PM
The magherafelt v slaughtneil final will not be a good match because it will be low scoring and defensive no free flowing football will be played! Mainly due to magherafelt being ultra defensive! Also I watched the Ballinderry v slaughtneil game and the best player Ballinderry had was also the biggest tr*mp they had from spitting + diving Mc kinless No.3! That boy needs neutered or something to calm him down,a real sc**bag!

Unlikely to have the effect you are after really

restorepride

Quote from: Estimator on September 29, 2020, 09:21:42 AM
Loup
13 scorers in total
2 players scored 20pts or more:
Anthony O'Neill 3-28 (0-23f); Caolan Devlin 0-20 (0-11f, 0-1m)
1 player scored 10pts or more:
Ciaran Devlin 2-05
2 players scored in every game
Anthony O'Neill & Caolan Devlin
9 goals scored in total
3/14 scorers only scored once
Average Points per game – 15   

Ballinderry
13 scorers in total
1 players scored 30pts or more:
Ryan Bell 3-26 (0-17f)
1 player scored 10pts or more:
Conor O'Neill 2-08 (14)
1 player scored in every game
Ryan Bell
8 goals scored in total
4/12 scorers only scored once
Average Points per game – 14

Newbridge
3/11 scorers only scored once

Dungiven
5/14 scorers only scored once

Bellaghy
3/11 scorers only scored once

Claudy
2/11 scorers only scored once

Lavey
4/9 scorers only scored once

Foreglen
1/7 scorers only scored once

Banagher
1/9 scorers only scored once

Kilrea
4/9 scorers only scored once

Glen
4/14 scorers only scored once

Ballinascreen
6/15 scorers only scored once

Swatragh
7/14 scorers only scored once

Coleraine
7/14 scorers only scored once

Added in stats about those players who only scored once - goal or point.  Just to show how many are carrying the burden of all the scores.

Burden??!!  Jaysus, when I was playing scoring was a f**king delight!!!

Estimator

Quote from: restorepride on September 29, 2020, 10:11:56 PM
Burden??!!  Jaysus, when I was playing scoring was a f**king delight!!!

;D ;D
Just referring to them carrying the scoring burden for the team, if the main men are well shackled and don't hit the bulk of the scores, then the likelihood of them winning is decreased.

Take Swatragh for example they had 14 scorers, 7 of those only contributed 1-06 in total to their overall scoring total of 5-56 over 5 games. Leaving the bulk of the scoring to come from the other 7.  The next 4 in the scoring charts put 2-11 on the board between them, with the top 3 hitting 45pts between them.

At the other end of that scale you'd have Glen, now their top scorer was Danny Tallon who scored 1-13. McAteer (Newbridge) 2-13; O'Connor (Foreglen) 2-18; O'Boyle (Lavey) 2-16; Kielt (Kilrea) 0-17; Mullan (Dungiven) 1-17; McGoldrick (Coleraine) 5-14; Mulgrew ('Screen) 0-21; J Kearney (Swatragh) 0-19. All scored more than that for their respective teams. 
But the scoring burden in Glen was very much shared. Only 4 one score players, 5 players contributed more than 10pts. 3 different players scored every game. 3 other players scored 4/5 games. So they may not have an absolute scoring machine, but they have enough players able to contribute to the scoreboard.

Another example would be Magherafelt. The Heavron brothers are the top 2 scorers with 1-38 between them, the other 9 scorers have scored 37pts in total. Shane Heavron is top scorer with 1-26, but before the QF he only had 15pts to his name, in the last two games he almost doubled his tally from the first 4 games, scoring 1-11.  If Slaughtneil managed to shut Danny and Shane down in the final, then it looks like getting enough scores will be difficult to come by.

Slaughtneil have a trio of scorers to look out for: Shane McGuigan 4-45, Sammy Bradley 2-15, Brian Cassidy 1-14.  All 3 need to be managed if any side are to beat them.   In the semi-final I don't think Shane scored in the first half, yet they'd already amassed 2-8.  So they may have the edge in finding other ways to get the scores they need in the final.
Ulster League Champions 2009

imtommygunn

That's interesting analysis. To me as you say 3 is the magic number in scoring forwards - it has been like that in county for a while too. If you have less then you need a hell of a defense / midfield to make it up.

From the outside looking in I would imagine Slaughtneil would be back to their best and will win this game by 3 or 4 points anyway.

Derry Optimist

With the imposition of the new Coronavirus restrictions in the Derry and Strabane council area from next Monday, that looks very likely that the scheduled NFL game against Longford and the opening Ulster championship game against Armagh in the weeks ahead will not go ahead as planned at Celtic Park. Depending on whether the pandemic continues to spread more rapidly or not it might also mean that there will be no NFL games or indeed any championship games played this year.If it does not spread any more seriously will Bellaghy be an acceptable alternative venue for our inter county fixtures in the eyes of the authorities in Croke Park? Or will the games have to be played elsewhere?
As we pause on those possibilities let us hope that we have a good County final on 

restorepride

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 02, 2020, 12:55:42 PM
With the imposition of the new Coronavirus restrictions in the Derry and Strabane council area from next Monday, that looks very likely that the scheduled NFL game against Longford and the opening Ulster championship game against Armagh in the weeks ahead will not go ahead as planned at Celtic Park. Depending on whether the pandemic continues to spread more rapidly or not it might also mean that there will be no NFL games or indeed any championship games played this year.If it does not spread any more seriously will Bellaghy be an acceptable alternative venue for our inter county fixtures in the eyes of the authorities in Croke Park? Or will the games have to be played elsewhere?
As we pause on those possibilities let us hope that we have a good County final on

No intercounty games at all is looking more likely by the day - we probably have done very well getting the club championships completed.  Behind closed doors is a possibility and in that scenario the venue is relatively irrelevant!

Looking forward to both the Senior and Intermediate County Finals.  Both will be tight, scoring ability will be crucial so Sleacht Néill, I think, and maybe Greenlough (just).

theticklemister

Really looking forward to tomorrow. Thanks to Derry GAA for the streaming service throughout the Championship. Really enjoyed it and appreciated it.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Sleacht Néill by 4
Baile Stíl ( never convinced of that translation) by 5

marty34

Heard C O'Kane had an article in Irish News this week about Derry selling Celtic Park.

Will that happen?

JoG2

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 03, 2020, 12:51:28 PM
Sleacht Néill by 4
Baile Stíl ( never convinced of that translation) by 5

Steelstown by 5? Some prediction!

Slaughtneil and Greenlough, both by 3

JoG2

Quote from: marty34 on October 03, 2020, 01:58:43 PM
Heard C O'Kane had an article in Irish News this week about Derry selling Celtic Park.

Will that happen?

He's only interested in selling papers and being a 1 man wrecking ball as regards the PR of Derry football

theticklemister

He didn't get the replies he wanted when putting out to public opinion

Quote from: JoG2 on October 03, 2020, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 03, 2020, 01:58:43 PM
Heard C O'Kane had an article in Irish News this week about Derry selling Celtic Park.

Will that happen?

He's only interested in selling papers and being a 1 man wrecking ball as regards the PR of Derry football

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: JoG2 on October 03, 2020, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 03, 2020, 12:51:28 PM
Sleacht Néill by 4
Baile Stíl ( never convinced of that translation) by 5

Steelstown by 5? Some prediction!

Slaughtneil and Greenlough, both by 3

I think no crowd there will actually help Steelstown. Take away the nerves, I do feel this has to be the year, maybe 5 a bit hopeful, 3-5 points

GiveItToTheShooters


restorepride

Quote from: JoG2 on October 03, 2020, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 03, 2020, 01:58:43 PM
Heard C O'Kane had an article in Irish News this week about Derry selling Celtic Park.

Will that happen?

He's only interested in selling papers and being a 1 man wrecking ball as regards the PR of Derry football
Starting to look like that.  He needs to remember the bowl he was baked in.  A quiet word in his ear might do no harm.