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Jaysus that was a boring match.

Tyrone were poor.

Soft goal to give away in the context of the game and so so slow and ponderous in the build up.

Match summed up in one passage where Harte had the ball 2v2 at the 45 with a clear  break on and proceeded to turn in circles before offloading backwards.

McQuillan was as expected.

McQuillan done nothing wrong to Tyrone all game to be fair to him. Kilpatrick was lucky to avoid a Black card in the 1st half. Gave Tyrone ample time to rescue a draw but no leaders stepped forward to have a shot in dying seconds even though numerous opportunities were on.

If people are relying on McCurry, McShane, Meyler and Mattie coming back to transform that team then they are in for a massive reality check. Not near good enough. This is a long term issue and come as a result of Mickey not wanting to bleed new players and the current management only realising now you can't play to your 40.

The only decent player that's come through in recent times is Darragh Canavan. Besides him, the players that have come through are leaving Tyrone are a division 2 team at best. We're lightyears in terms of physical development behind the likes of Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Derry and Armagh. Out of that starting 15 today how many lads were over 6ft? How many over 13 or 14 stone?
Tyrone are light-years away from challenging from an All Ireland, and serious work and change needs implemented at development level. We're bringing though good footballers, not athletes. The day of a 5ft 6,  11st intercounty footballer are long gone. Pace power strength are the name of the game now, and that's were we're ultimately lacking. As I've said carried too many squad players for years without bringing new blood in, to get them on conditioned plans for inter county football, now we're throwing young lads in at the deep end against teams who are at 3 or 4 years deep in their development and wondering why they look like men against boys. Lots of questions to be answered of the development coaches and structures in place. Spend millions on Garvaghy yet still getting left behind.

Surely the reserve start will be reconsidered. Clubs will be playing a lot of seniors throughout there reserve teams

Hopefully. Personally I think it's a terrible idea. In theory from someone looking from the outside in it could work. When you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, it won't.

1st. You can't just give a months notice and say oh yeah reserve leagues start then. Managers and players have plans and schedules made up and in place gearing towards an expected May start like the last 2 or 3 years. Training will now be impacted with the smaller clubs will be down 10 or 12 senior players training as will leave the training having to be split.

2nd, when are these games going to be played? Friday night suited most players well as gave the option of Sunday off. But if they are Friday night again that means Sunday won't be free as how can a team train Friday night if half the team are away playing a game, which means can't train Thursday night, so Sunday's and Tuesday will be the only option to get an entire squad training together.


3rd, the reserve players will lose out, senior managers will be using them games as glorified challange matches to see senior fringe players in action.

4th, the small club will suffer again as once the reserve leagues are run off the reserve players will not bother training with the senior team and numbers fall and training suffers as a result.

So like I said, in theory it could work, in reality it will just make life more difficult for the smaller club

I hear there were unsavoury scenes we'll say in Garvaghy on Saturday after an under 16 game between Stewartstown and Drumragh? Been kept very quiet. Senior players from both teams on the pitch after, youth players allegedly getting hit? Wonder if there will be any repercussions?

Yeah let's all just forget what happened in Cookstowns Fr Rock's last night and carry on like we usually would. It really baffles my mind how people on the board can stick up for this man. There should be only 1 opinion on this matter and that is give him life in prison.

How can a player, management, officials and spectators feel safe entering a football ground again?? It may be just that 1% but you never know when and where. Fintona and the county board will have a lot to answer for.

Life in prison, catch a grip of yourself. A lad killed his father and is back playing football like nothing happened, hardly think stabbing someone with an umbrella is up there with that, a life time ban from all GAA activities and a short stint is plenty, but knowing of the man, a punishment on his club will hit him the hardest, pitch closure and suspended from all activities for a year

All club activities suspended in the Killeeshil club? Has something happened?

Believe a player's mother has passed away.

Sorry to hear this, condolences to the family and the club

All club activities suspended in the Killeeshil club? Has something happened?

[recreational league]

I believe it's the exact same situation with Eskra and Derrytresk this Friday. Derrytresk have a wedding on the Thursday. Eskra wouldn't reschedule the game to earlier in the week because they have players away working in England. They wouldn't re schedule the game to the weekend either because they have a wedding. I seen last week however they were able to reschedule the game to earlier in the week against killyman? Surely the CCC should be able to look at this and fix the game for some stage later in the year.

Why are Eskra and Clogher getting flak here? Correct me if im wrong but these are THURSDAY weddings, not Friday, why on earth would any team change a game from a Friday night to accommodate lads suffering from a hangover or going on a day 2, especially when it would mean they're going to be missing players themselves. Some cheek to blame them. Season is always up and running during May, and there have been Friday night games 3 years now, what serious player puts his wedding on a Thursday or Friday night mid season?

Where did you read that Clogher and Eskra were getting stick for it? Nobody has blamed them yet. Yes because amateur football on a Friday is the first thing you think of when you're planning your wedding day. Good man BG_Gael just you keep being miserable your whole life.

In the message I quoted there was a bit of stick given to Eskra, and on others Clogher where getting some too.
Well yeah I know of plenty of lads who plan holidays and weddings around the football season, I would be one of those people too, if you're anyway serious about it is what you do. It is a bit of a joke Derrytresk not even attempting to field on Friday night, leaving 30 Eskra lads without football because they want to go on a tear up.

Could call into question the need for a recreational league within in Tyrone because no serious team would sacrifice league points in the 2nd league game of the year, fixed for a Friday night, for a wedding on a Thursday.

And also totally unfair what the County Board have done to Clogher too, they should never have been put in that place. Why should they be at a disadvantage, the game should be played Friday night.

A "recreational league"?

What classifies something as recreational? Not getting paid? What would the differences be between this recreational league an the current ACL leagues and reserve leagues be?

Catch yourself on.

Yes an amateur sport, but like in any sport the idea is winning and being competitive. Not a good look not fielding, 2 points clearly aren't important to these teams, no ambition to win a league, so either hit them where it hurts in fines for not fielding as well as losing the points  (obviously in certain so situations) or yes let them play in a league where they can come or go, field.or not an no one would really care.
It's not a great look for the integrity of the Junior league, has been a lot of DNFs over the last year and a half and has become far to easy to say we're just not fielding. It makes no sense, they give Cookstown a real battle last weekend and then lay over for Eskra the following week. No serious team does that

You're preaching to the choir here... I agree that this entire fiasco is a  bit of a joke.

However, some of the solutions yourself and a few others have came out with are comical. You'd be a great man to have on the county board 

The sooner the 4 league system gets implemented again the better. Let whoever wants to stay in the mire of Junior football stay and the rest with ambition to play competitive games

[recreational league]

I believe it's the exact same situation with Eskra and Derrytresk this Friday. Derrytresk have a wedding on the Thursday. Eskra wouldn't reschedule the game to earlier in the week because they have players away working in England. They wouldn't re schedule the game to the weekend either because they have a wedding. I seen last week however they were able to reschedule the game to earlier in the week against killyman? Surely the CCC should be able to look at this and fix the game for some stage later in the year.

Why are Eskra and Clogher getting flak here? Correct me if im wrong but these are THURSDAY weddings, not Friday, why on earth would any team change a game from a Friday night to accommodate lads suffering from a hangover or going on a day 2, especially when it would mean they're going to be missing players themselves. Some cheek to blame them. Season is always up and running during May, and there have been Friday night games 3 years now, what serious player puts his wedding on a Thursday or Friday night mid season?

Where did you read that Clogher and Eskra were getting stick for it? Nobody has blamed them yet. Yes because amateur football on a Friday is the first thing you think of when you're planning your wedding day. Good man BG_Gael just you keep being miserable your whole life.

In the message I quoted there was a bit of stick given to Eskra, and on others Clogher where getting some too.
Well yeah I know of plenty of lads who plan holidays and weddings around the football season, I would be one of those people too, if you're anyway serious about it is what you do. It is a bit of a joke Derrytresk not even attempting to field on Friday night, leaving 30 Eskra lads without football because they want to go on a tear up.

Could call into question the need for a recreational league within in Tyrone because no serious team would sacrifice league points in the 2nd league game of the year, fixed for a Friday night, for a wedding on a Thursday.

And also totally unfair what the County Board have done to Clogher too, they should never have been put in that place. Why should they be at a disadvantage, the game should be played Friday night.

A "recreational league"?

What classifies something as recreational? Not getting paid? What would the differences be between this recreational league an the current ACL leagues and reserve leagues be?

Catch yourself on.

Yes an amateur sport, but like in any sport the idea is winning and being competitive. Not a good look not fielding, 2 points clearly aren't important to these teams, no ambition to win a league, so either hit them where it hurts in fines for not fielding as well as losing the points  (obviously in certain so situations) or yes let them play in a league where they can come or go, field.or not an no one would really care.
It's not a great look for the integrity of the Junior league, has been a lot of DNFs over the last year and a half and has become far to easy to say we're just not fielding. It makes no sense, they give Cookstown a real battle last weekend and then lay over for Eskra the following week. No serious team does that

I believe it's the exact same situation with Eskra and Derrytresk this Friday. Derrytresk have a wedding on the Thursday. Eskra wouldn't reschedule the game to earlier in the week because they have players away working in England. They wouldn't re schedule the game to the weekend either because they have a wedding. I seen last week however they were able to reschedule the game to earlier in the week against killyman? Surely the CCC should be able to look at this and fix the game for some stage later in the year.

Why are Eskra and Clogher getting flak here? Correct me if im wrong but these are THURSDAY weddings, not Friday, why on earth would any team change a game from a Friday night to accommodate lads suffering from a hangover or going on a day 2, especially when it would mean they're going to be missing players themselves. Some cheek to blame them. Season is always up and running during May, and there have been Friday night games 3 years now, what serious player puts his wedding on a Thursday or Friday night mid season?

Where did you read that Clogher and Eskra were getting stick for it? Nobody has blamed them yet. Yes because amateur football on a Friday is the first thing you think of when you're planning your wedding day. Good man BG_Gael just you keep being miserable your whole life.

In the message I quoted there was a bit of stick given to Eskra, and on others Clogher where getting some too.
Well yeah I know of plenty of lads who plan holidays and weddings around the football season, I would be one of those people too, if you're anyway serious about it is what you do. It is a bit of a joke Derrytresk not even attempting to field on Friday night, leaving 30 Eskra lads without football because they want to go on a tear up.

Could call into question the need for a recreational league within in Tyrone because no serious team would sacrifice league points in the 2nd league game of the year, fixed for a Friday night, for a wedding on a Thursday.

And also totally unfair what the County Board have done to Clogher too, they should never have been put in that place. Why should they be at a disadvantage, the game should be played Friday night.

I believe it's the exact same situation with Eskra and Derrytresk this Friday. Derrytresk have a wedding on the Thursday. Eskra wouldn't reschedule the game to earlier in the week because they have players away working in England. They wouldn't re schedule the game to the weekend either because they have a wedding. I seen last week however they were able to reschedule the game to earlier in the week against killyman? Surely the CCC should be able to look at this and fix the game for some stage later in the year.

Why are Eskra and Clogher getting flak here? Correct me if im wrong but these are THURSDAY weddings, not Friday, why on earth would any team change a game from a Friday night to accommodate lads suffering from a hangover or going on a day 2, especially when it would mean they're going to be missing players themselves. Some cheek to blame them. Season is always up and running during May, and there have been Friday night games 3 years now, what serious player puts his wedding on a Thursday or Friday night mid season?

Dont see any Wednesday night games so going to assume the game wasn't moved?

What are the rules around getting Friday night ACL games changed for a Thursday wedding?

Unlikely it would be changed, and to be honest can't see why  a Thursday wedding would impact a Friday night game? Be a different scenario if it was a Friday wedding id imagine, although have seen plenty clubs not even changing for that.

Yeah Clonoe won't fear playing Carrickmore. Be some way to escape relegation. Stranger things have happened.

Just ask Killyman.

As I expected, Aghaloo comfortably accounted for Derrytresk this evening to set up a Stewartstown vs. Aghaloo JFC final. If Stewartstown win, Strabane are promoted and Aghaloo go into the promotion play-offs, while if Aghaloo they are of course promoted and Strabane will be in the promotion play-offs instead.

Meanwhile in the ladies code, St. Macartan's made it 11 Division 1 league titles in a row this evening when they comfortably accounted for a Carrickmore team missing a few players through injury, 3-10 to 0-4. Also with Moortown beating Omagh in the Division 2 league semi-final, it means our ladies team have been promoted to Division 1/Senior for the first time in their history. I'm sure we'll be favourites to be relegated straight away but hopefully they can give it a decent rattle and stay up at least.

At what point do we look at the st macs domination and realise they're realistically 3 clubs in 1  and they should be dominating like they are

I assume Trillick is still going out to beat Clonoe ?

Trillick are the kind of club to do favours to no one, which is fair enough TBH. At the same time I doubt they'll go into fifth gear against Clonoe just to secure home advantage in a league semi final.

Also I see the Minor Football Grade 1 Championship Final between Donaghmore & Eglish is being held in Fintona tomorrow night. Now I'm not complaining, glad to have one of the biggest games of the year on my doorstep, but was a venue in the east of Tyrone not available that would have been closer for both competing sides?

What hold do Fintona have over the County Board? How does a training pitch get so many championship games? I also see there are Senior Championship games fixed there too. Are the lights even proper match lights? Hardly inspiring going to play Championship on a training pitch,  not even a stand or anything for supporters. Bit of a joke really that it gets so many games, considering how good the set up on the bottom pitch is and it doesn't get any anymore.

After winning the all ireland and all of his injury concerns you can only admire Mattie Donnelly and the dedication to his club.

OK Mattie. Good having you back out there. Them cuts can be hard to heal.