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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025

Last post by David McKeown - Today at 01:03:02 AM

Just looking at the permutations and wow is it complicated. Just looking at relegation

If

Armagh and Tyrone lose then Tyrone are relegated.

If Armagh and Tyrone draw and Kerry avoid defeat the Tyrone are relegated

If Armagh and Tyrone draw and Kerry lose then Armagh are relegated until less Kerry are beaten by 20+ points (if they are then Kerry are relegated)

If Armagh and Tyrone win and Kerry lose then Kerry are relegated.

If Armagh Tyrone, Kerry all win and Mayo avoid defeat then Tyrone are relegated.

If Armagh and Tyrone win, Kerry draw and Mayo lose then it will depend on the points swing.  Which is where it gets really complicated because any one of Armagh (most likely) Tyrone (least likely) or Mayo could go down.

If Armagh win, Tyrone win, Kerry draw and Mayo avoid defeat then again it comes down to scoring difference with again Armagh most likely to be relegated but Tyrone and Kerry could be relegated albeit it would take an Armagh win by 20 points and Tyrone to win by 12. to relegate Kerry

Making the final is a little more straightforward I think but only a little more.

So Mayo and Kerry have avoiding relegation in their own hands.  So technically does Armagh but only if they win by 20 points or more.  Tyrone do not but probably need the least surprising other results to avoid relegation .

#2

General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread

Last post by Windmill abu - Today at 01:01:57 AM

Rory did what he needed to do. He was -4 off the lead going into the final round

The other player failed to seal the deal on the night then the following day..

The water shot on the playoff he said he'd have chosen the same club.

28th career pga title is some going

Rory is going to be judged on majors, tbf he probably judges himself on majors

Is Harry Diamond the second highest  'sportsman' from Ireland?

McGregor, Harrington and Lowry to name just a few who are way ahead of Harry Diamond

#3

GAA Discussion / Re: Predictions

Last post by PMG1 - Today at 01:01:27 AM

The nerves lads, the nerves

#4

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 3 2025

Last post by LarryStiles - Today at 12:56:46 AM

Leitrim must be spending some money on that backroom team. Poacher after everything criticising the new rules. He has some neck.

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025

Last post by LarryStiles - Today at 12:53:49 AM

Kerry support classy as ever.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GAA/comments/1jd4yvy/flare_incident_where_kerry_fans_threw_flares/

#6

General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread

Last post by gawa316 - Today at 12:44:32 AM

What's he been...Constantly in the world top 5 (maybe 10)for about 15 years? Anyone else even come close to that over the same period?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread

Last post by Hectic - Today at 12:42:31 AM

From what I can see:

Most clubs struggle for specialist underage coaches with parents relied upon more than what is ideal and mostly learning on the job.  Knowledge acquired for each development stage is then lost just as quickly as they move on with their kids.

Very few, if any, schools are set on developing teams.  Instead a bit of training takes place around competitions and then it is parked until the next year. No real identity gets formed and a question if strongest squad/lineup is even known.  That Maghera team that won yesterday will have been forged over the last 6 1/2 years.

And even if we do manage to stock up both clubs and schools with dedicated coaches we still need parents giving the kids the encouragement push.  Maybe we are lacking in GAA culture compared to some other counties. 

And with all that a good dose of negativity sauce as we demonstrate on this board on a regular basis.

[To further confuse matters RTE seem to have counted the score in its points differential but GAA.ie have not.]

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025

Last post by David McKeown - Today at 12:20:59 AM

For some reason this didn't post but I see from reading the league tables the final score/non score the Tyrone v Armagh game may become important.

It was discussed on this thread briefly previously but at the buzzer Tyrone took a shot just before the buzzer sounded, as it was in the air the buzzer went. Then Rafferty deflected it over the bar.

The umpire initially didn't wave the flag (correctly as I understand the rule) but McQuillian who was referring ran in and told him to do so.

I may have the broadcasters the wrong way round here but RTE didn't count the score but GAAGo and BBC did.

If Armagh and Tyrone win and Mayo loose and/or Kerry draw then that one point may be crucial.

To further confuse matters RTE seem to have counted the score in its points differential but GAA.ie have not.

Rte are correct... Why would the score not count? Game isn't over until the ball goes dead after the hooter*

*from a few days ago that is

The hooter had gone, the ball was kicked on the hooter but because Rafferty touched it the point shouldnt have counted.

Ahhh.. A game from weeks ago, only half read it. Sure you could go through multiple incidents in every game re scores

You could but I don't remember two news outlets reporting different scores for the one match.  My understanding of the rule at the time was the referee should not have allowed the score because Raferrty had a touch after the hooter but as he did then the score stood and that the RTE table is then correct and the gaa.ie table is incorrect.  I am not sure if there is an official source for the correct score but potentially although admittedly unlikely it could make a huge difference this weekend.

The point was initially flagged as a 2pt,but was touched so became 1pt, but then ref realised that the touch was after the hooter and disallowed it entirely.
Nonsense of course, it was a 2pt and should have remained as such.

That's not my memory at all. Rafferty definitely touched it after the hooter. Initially the umpire doesn't go for any flag then McQuillian runs in with an arm up then the umpire signals a point. So it definitely shouldn't have been a 2pt score or a score at all but RTE changed their graphic. BBC didn't. RTE have the final score 1-23 to 0-19. GAA.ie have it 1-23 to 0-18. I'm not sure it's possible to know which is correct

Hopefully it won't make a difference

#9

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025

Last post by onefineday - March 17, 2025, 11:41:56 PM

Too many dead rubbers towards last couple of rounds makes a mockery of the league.  Teams getting to the final because others don't want to be there, team's avoiding relegation because their opponents are playing their B side, it's a very strange competition. 

As for the rules, and specifically the hooter.  I thought the hooter played to the exact time of the game including stoppages.  So when it blows, that's the time up.  Why do the FRC think it appropriate for the game to be extended until a break in play, what's the rationale behind that?

It's never going to be exact, we're not playing nfl where seconds are added back. There's always an element of judgement as to when clock should or should not be stopped, this, very sensible amendment adds to the game and removes that potential for controversy around when the ball left the foot, see meath v Westmeath 2 weeks ago for example.

[To further confuse matters RTE seem to have counted the score in its points differential but GAA.ie have not.]

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2025

Last post by onefineday - March 17, 2025, 11:38:31 PM

For some reason this didn't post but I see from reading the league tables the final score/non score the Tyrone v Armagh game may become important.

It was discussed on this thread briefly previously but at the buzzer Tyrone took a shot just before the buzzer sounded, as it was in the air the buzzer went. Then Rafferty deflected it over the bar.

The umpire initially didn't wave the flag (correctly as I understand the rule) but McQuillian who was referring ran in and told him to do so.

I may have the broadcasters the wrong way round here but RTE didn't count the score but GAAGo and BBC did.

If Armagh and Tyrone win and Mayo loose and/or Kerry draw then that one point may be crucial.

To further confuse matters RTE seem to have counted the score in its points differential but GAA.ie have not.

Rte are correct... Why would the score not count? Game isn't over until the ball goes dead after the hooter*

*from a few days ago that is

The hooter had gone, the ball was kicked on the hooter but because Rafferty touched it the point shouldnt have counted.

Ahhh.. A game from weeks ago, only half read it. Sure you could go through multiple incidents in every game re scores

You could but I don't remember two news outlets reporting different scores for the one match.  My understanding of the rule at the time was the referee should not have allowed the score because Raferrty had a touch after the hooter but as he did then the score stood and that the RTE table is then correct and the gaa.ie table is incorrect.  I am not sure if there is an official source for the correct score but potentially although admittedly unlikely it could make a huge difference this weekend.

The point was initially flagged as a 2pt,but was touched so became 1pt, but then ref realised that the touch was after the hooter and disallowed it entirely.
Nonsense of course, it was a 2pt and should have remained as such.