Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

Started by Trevor Hill, January 18, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

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grounded

#360
Almost 20 years ago now.

Funny, the only two left(in politics) are Adams and Nesbitt!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjK_C-qV9o

armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Maguire01

SF 4% fall / FF 3% rise.

And in the immediate aftermath of a budget.

Maguire01

Oh, and 44% of SF voters in the Republic feel decision to restrict flying of the Union flag was wrong.
Does that make them 'West Brits'?

armaghniac


QuoteOh, and 44% of SF voters in the Republic feel decision to restrict flying of the Union flag was wrong.
Does that make them 'West Brits'?

It would be rather odd, whatever name you put on it.
What exactly was the question asked? If it was agreement with the present policy of the City Council, then this would include those that think that they have no business flying the Butcher's Apron at any time.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Ulick

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Oh, and 44% of SF voters in the Republic feel decision to restrict flying of the Union flag was wrong.
Does that make them 'West Brits'?

If you discount those didn't respond then the poll says 19% of SF voters in the south feel decision was wrong. Also the SF sample size is 83 which would make the margin of error about 10-11%.

Maguire01

Quote from: Ulick on January 10, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Oh, and 44% of SF voters in the Republic feel decision to restrict flying of the Union flag was wrong.
Does that make them 'West Brits'?

If you discount those didn't respond then the poll says 19% of SF voters in the south feel decision was wrong. Also the SF sample size is 83 which would make the margin of error about 10-11%.
How many didn't respond? And are you assuming that those who didn't respond feel the decision was right?
And if you discount those didn't respond then what % SF voters in the south feel decision was right?
Also, If the margain of error is 10-11%, could the figure actually be 55%?

There's more than one way to spin statistics.

Ulick

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2013, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: Ulick on January 10, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2013, 07:07:36 PM
Oh, and 44% of SF voters in the Republic feel decision to restrict flying of the Union flag was wrong.
Does that make them 'West Brits'?

If you discount those didn't respond then the poll says 19% of SF voters in the south feel decision was wrong. Also the SF sample size is 83 which would make the margin of error about 10-11%.
How many didn't respond? And are you assuming that those who didn't respond feel the decision was right?
And if you discount those didn't respond then what % SF voters in the south feel decision was right?
Also, If the margain of error is 10-11%, could the figure actually be 55%?

There's more than one way to spin statistics.

Indeed. It could also be 8%.

Maguire01

That's assuming your 19% is a valid starting point, which is highly unlikely.

Ulick

Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2013, 09:14:50 PM
That's assuming your 19% is a valid starting point, which is highly unlikely.

Why is it unlikely?

Maguire01

See my reply #367 and the questions you didn't answer.

Applesisapples

You assume that everyone who votes for SF agree with all their policies and positions on various issues, they don't.

orangeman

Bizarre alright.

Sinn Fein is bizarrely complaining to respected international news channel CNN for saying Gerry Adams was an IRA leader.

Mr Adams has repeatedly denied being a member of the IRA, despite repeated accusations from the Government and former Provos.

Most recently, he was implicated in the murder of Belfast mother-of-10 Jean McConville.

CNN's World Report carried an interview with Mr Adams, in which he was described as "a former IRA paramilitary commander".

A leading Fine Gael councillor has called on Mr Adams to "treat the Irish people with respect and come clean about his past".

Fine Gael's leader of Limerick City Council, Diarmuid Scully, said the report has gone out around the world.

"If Gerry Adams is willing to be described as such in the international media, why does he continue to deny his former IRA membership here in Ireland. Surely the people deserve to know the truth about those who represent them," he said.

Sinn Fein said Mr Adams's spokesman has complained to CNN's representative in Belfast about the description of the party president. In the report on the loyalist violence and flags protest in Belfast, Mr Adams was described as "a former IRA paramilitary commander" and also as "the leading Catholic politician in Northern Ireland".

Mr Adams was speaking out against the ongoing violence in Belfast at a peace vigil at the weekend.

He continues to be routinely accused of being an IRA leader and member of the Army Council. Taoiseach Enda Kenny has joined in the statements declaring Mr Adams as a member of the IRA.

Last year, convicted IRA bomber Dolours Price accused Mr Adams of having a leading role in the Provos, including personal involvement in the murder of Jean McConville.

- Fionnan Sheahan Political Editor

Irish Independent



orangeman

The fleg men will be delighted with this news.


Sinn Féin is holding a special conference in Dublin to highlight the party's call for a border poll.

It wants a plebiscite in Northern Ireland on partition after the next Assembly elections.

Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams said this week that his party wanted a debate about the kind of Ireland people wanted to see for the 21st Century.

SuperMac

Quote from: armaghniac on January 10, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
SF do seem to be going away



Quote from: Maguire01 on January 10, 2013, 06:25:09 PM
SF 4% fall / FF 3% rise.

And in the immediate aftermath of a budget.
FF's rise is at FG's expense, SF drops went to the Independents. As a SF member I wouldn't get too excited, FF are enjoying plenty of news coverage as the so called only ' oppostion ' to FG/Labour thanks to their army of appoimtees down the years in RTE, Newstalk radio and of course Dr Sir O'Reilly's/O'Brien's toilet papers Independent newspapers. We will have council, Euro and referendums to make our impact and importantly a financial scandal invovling FF midway thru an election may well be uncovered liek what happened with Sean Gallaher  ;)  - we're not going away you know   :)