Kildare v Mayo AI Qualifier Round 3

Started by Dinny Breen, June 25, 2018, 09:32:04 AM

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Syferus

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Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?

If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.

I'll bite so.

The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.

Ok so - that changes things. Nothing I found on Google mentioned a 10,000 capacity, only the 6,200 capacity. There were articles about planning for an expansion to around 15,000 from last year however.

2013:
https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/louth-next-up-for-lilies-in-qualifiers-29386411.html

2018:
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/31701-mayo-fans-urged-to-buy-tickets-in-advance


Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
How many matches has Newbridge hosted with over 6,200 people in attendance in the last seven years?

2013 against Tyrone and 2016 against Offaly. Mayo in the league in 2014 was a very big crowd. Dublin in two O'Byrne Cup games. All the Sarsfields/Moorefield county finals.

Then I take back most of what I said, because it was on the wrong assumption that the capacity was 6,200. It should be played in Newbridge. Did Kildare's CB originally agree to this change or not, though? It would be incredible that the tickets would go on sale without the KCB at least agreeing to it at some level, even if it was under duress from HQ.

Captain Obvious

Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.

galwayman

Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.

manfromdelmonte

Tullamore, Nowlan Park or Portlaoise the obvious alternativevenues for kildare to nominate 

Crete Boom

Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.

That game could have been played in Clones and our game with Kildare in Newbridge, two provincial grounds full or near full would be a way better atmoshpere and would look better on tv!!

Redhand Santa

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 25, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
Tullamore, Nowlan Park or Portlaoise the obvious alternativevenues for kildare to nominate

Would Tullamore not be further away from parts of Kildare than Croke Park? it's not exactly a huge distance from Kildare if it is being moved.

RedHand88

More walkovers in an empty croke park in July. It's what the summer is all about.

galwayman

Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.

That game could have been played in Clones and our game with Kildare in Newbridge, two provincial grounds full or near full would be a way better atmoshpere and would look better on tv!!
Absolutely I agree 100%.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
Real bad form this and you'd wonder did KCB have this sort of agreement already in place. Supporters kicked up a fuss about Mayo v Kerry replay in Limerick a few years back but the county board had already agreed to it well before then.

To be fair, that game was moved from one neutral venue to another neutral venue.
Apples & oranges.
Correct and Round 3 games are meant to have home advantage. GAA making up things as they go along. 

RedHand88

Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??

Crete Boom

Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 25, 2018, 02:55:22 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 25, 2018, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
Ridiculous that Kildare have lost home advantage for this game. Moving it Croke Park just proves once again that HQ only care about the money they can make out of this fixture nothing else.
They have a convenient excuse in that Tyrone Cavan can't be played in Breffni Park so will use this as justification for the move to a double header in Croker (they wouldn't have a standalone game in Croker at this stage of c'ship).
It's extremely unfair on Kildare.
The game is on tv so if some people miss out on being there as a result of a reduced capacity then so be it.

That game could have been played in Clones and our game with Kildare in Newbridge, two provincial grounds full or near full would be a way better atmoshpere and would look better on tv!!
Absolutely I agree 100%.

Unfortunately Galwayman I would wager neither of us will ever have a say in these things apart form a vote at a club AGM and that is assuming our county delegate actually votes the way the clubs mandate them!!

heffo

Quote from: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 03:03:27 PM
Surely Kildare county board have agreed to this on some level? Couldn't go ahead without them giving the go ahead.... could it??

They should threaten to not field but they don't have to agree, the CCCC or any CCC for that matter can fix games as they wish and you can't object/appeal a fixture (that is assuming of course there is a get out clause in the rules that they don't automatically get home advantage without conditions)

Jinxy

If you take home advantage away from a team, at the knock-out stage of the championship, surely to god you have to at least give a reason.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Mac2

Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on June 25, 2018, 02:37:00 PM
Real bad form this and you'd wonder did KCB have this sort of agreement already in place. Supporters kicked up a fuss about Mayo v Kerry replay in Limerick a few years back but the county board had already agreed to it well before then.

To be fair, that game was moved from one neutral venue to another neutral venue.
Apples & oranges.
Not saying they're the same just that county boards can sometimes be complicit in these things.

Mayo4Sam

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
If ever there was a time for everyone's favourite Kildare arsehole to make some noise it's now. Ewan now is your opportunity and surely Athy's Ger Gilroy and Celbridge's Joe Molloy will give him plenty of airtime.

Joe is a Mayo man at heart.

To play devils advocate, there may be a condition in the season ticket that you are allowed to bring a friend to the match, I know you can for all but the final. If this is in the contract then it would have to be adhered to and would make Celbridge untenable.
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me