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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 28, 2022, 07:41:04 PM »
Carrickmore vs. NCC SHC final down for Saturday 22nd October @ 3.00pm in Healy Park.

Edit: Personally, I'd have Owen Roes vs. Killeeshil IFC QF down on paper as the "big" game this weekend as it would seem to be the most competitive of the four quarter-finals, though Urney/Strabane in Junior should be a decent derby/thumping match.

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: September 28, 2022, 03:17:02 PM »
Quick question from me again - as the Derry SFC is planned to be reduced from 16 to 12 teams for 2023, from what I see the plan to do this involves relegating four teams in four separate relegation play-off among the eight 1st knockout round losers. Does this mean that this year's IFC winners won't be competing in the 2023 SFC?

Yes - no promotion for this year only. In order for IFC winner to come up you’d have to relegate 5 teams in order to keep the 12 team league for next year. Also the IFC winners are effectively the 17th best team in Derry. You’d be putting them in with the 11 best teams in Derry for 2023 which would be a stuffing match for majority of the games. It goes to 1 up and 1 down from next year I believe.

Thank You.

General discussion / Re: Cost Of Living
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:55:53 PM »
Heating oil £0.25/litre to £1

In fairness that was thanks to a freakish set of circumstances back in the Spring of 2020 where worldwide pandemic restrictions hit oil consumption heavily that those stocking barrel reserves had no room left (you can't just stop pumping crude oil at the flick of a switch) and in some cases were paying people to take their surplus. It was down to almost US$20 a barrel for a while for Brent Crude.

Back to today, and the BoE measures haven't had a desired effect on the pound sterling, it's still falling against other major currencies - BBC GBP to USD

And also, if anyone else tries to palm you off with "but the Euro is falling too!" switch the option on the BBC link above to GBP/EUR and set the graph to one month or longer.

To bring it all into perspective, the Turkish Lira - which has been regarded as an inflationary joke of a currency in the last nine months or so - has strengthened against the GBP by around 5-6% in the last week.

General discussion / Re: Caption competition of the hour
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:30:33 PM »
Replica of Noah's Ark funded by the Caleb Foundation "not authentic" according to religious experts.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:26:09 PM »
Naomh Colum Cille's last (and up until now their only) appearance in the Tyrone SHC final was in 2011 when they lost out to Carrickmore after beating Dungannon in a semi-final - the previous year they were in the All-Ireland JHC final losing out to Blackrock of Limerick. Every single Tyrone SHC final from 2012 onwards until now has been Carrickmore vs. Dungannon.

The SHC & JHC finals are down for the weekend of the 22/23 October, Dungannon will play the winners of a semi-final play-off between Omagh & Cúchulainn an Ghleanna in the Junior final.

Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:17:34 PM »
Quick question from me again - as the Derry SFC is planned to be reduced from 16 to 12 teams for 2023, from what I see the plan to do this involves relegating four teams in four separate relegation play-off among the eight 1st knockout round losers. Does this mean that this year's IFC winners won't be competing in the 2023 SFC?

General discussion / Re: Cost Of Living
« on: September 28, 2022, 02:09:39 PM »
f**k me you'd think we were all going to be living on the streets starving to listen to some of the nonsense here. Disaster capitalism, right wing think tanks. Log off for a while lads.

This is a good budget for intelligent people.
Turn off the news. It'll be ok.

General discussion / Re: Cost Of Living
« on: September 28, 2022, 01:49:23 PM »
The behaviour of the current UK government over the past week has been no accident by those at the top. As it has been there/here for the best past of a decade, it's a case of "follow the money", and little of this "money" is for the lack of a better term, natively British - indeed an awful lot of it comes from outside of Europe. Brexit was the first notable stage in all of this and at the current stage the UK is well on the path to being stage-managed by disaster capitalism. Having Truss & Kwarteng in as the public faces is little more than a shield for the faceless planners in question.

And yes, money has driven the British government for as long as anyone can remember, including the Labour governments under Atlee - but none of them have had been as willing puppets to economically hard-right think tanks & political pressure groups as they have in place right now.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 27, 2022, 06:56:59 PM »
There's no Fintona men (oxymoron) on that All Star list?? 

Still scratching my head over this one  :-\ Always thought they should have had a few nominated this year.

Why on earth are you bringing up a post from nearly 16 years ago?

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 26, 2022, 05:35:31 PM »
Derrylaughan should sue Edendork for the shape of that penalty spot  ;)

In all seriousness pitch conditions should be a consideration for championship games. Edendork constantly get games, there is a lot of positives with their grounds but missing a stand is a major downfall, a stand should be compulsory for championship games as well as an adequate playing surface.

O'Neill Park should be ready for next years championship, big boost to have another facility and surface like that become available again.

Do the upgrade works at O'Neill Park include match-capable floodlights? There's been a need for some time of a venue in the east of Tyrone for a floodlit pitch with a covered stand that can host big games without everything having to be routed to Healy Park - and I know Garvaghy isn't suitable in a lot of cases.

GAA Discussion / Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« on: September 26, 2022, 02:46:52 PM »
Soccer is generally a non contact sport so bringing him on wouldn't be a big deal (imo)

That said in senior competitions there are physical differences that would make think twice about putting on a minor, different to the days that under 16's were regulars on their senior team, the old adage, if you are good enough then you are old enough. There are plenty of big lads at under 17 who wouldnt look out of place on senior teams..

In terms of their rule books or "laws of the game" soccer & Gaelic football are quite similar, with the side-shoulder being technically the only legal physical challenge that can be made though there is plenty of "incidental" physical contact in both games - Gaelic football tends to however have their incidental contact be a little more rugged. I was thinking that if I was an opponent in an adult soccer game and I was coming up to challenge a 13 year old in possession of the ball, I'd be somewhat reluctant to go in which any great physical intent because if you were to end up badly injuring the boy, accidentally or otherwise, you'd get a good bit of flack for what you did even if you'd do the same to any adult opponent that over 99% of the time ends up harmless.

When I was younger the idea of being in my mid-teens playing for the senior football team was Roy Of The Rovers type stuff. In hindsight it would have been a terrible idea in terms of duty of care for all involved. The stories of 14 & 15 year olds playing adult club Gaelic football is now consigned to the history books and it's all the better for it IMO, and I'd still be pretty concerned at someone whom has yet to do their GCSEs being potentially lined out for an adult game as well - just because they're an early physical developer doesn't often means that they're actually physically or mentally ready to take on fully developed adults.

GAA Discussion / Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« on: September 26, 2022, 02:35:00 PM »
The other thing that the U17 thing was meant to help was exams. Doesn't help one jot in the north as you've lads doing AS's in lower 6th (Yr13) so the months of May and June have always been a struggle.

In Tyrone (for football at least, and before the new age levels were brought in) the traditional was/is for the U14 & U18 seasons to start in the early Spring with the aim of getting all league games prior to the knockout stages as well as at least one round of (straight knock-out) championship games (until more recent years) done and dusted prior to A-Level or other 17/18 yo exams held around the same time, with the league knockout & later championship games held off until some time after. It used to be the case that the minor Grade 1 championship final was the curtain raiser to the SFC final but it's not been that case for some time now.

This season the Tyrone U17 football leagues was a mess. Aside from Grade 4 competitions (as no county players were involved at this grade), league games after round 4 (out of 10) were put on hold while the county team were playing in Ulster & All-Ireland competitions. For ourselves (in Grade 2) Round 4 of the league was on 13th April and Round 5 was the 15th June, meaning non-county players had a two month gap between games and when it started again, clubs were given as little as 4 days notice that the league was restarting with many players still having A2/AS/BTEC/GCSE exams to do.

GAA Discussion / Re: Minor, U17 or U18.. Croke Parks take on it....
« on: September 26, 2022, 02:21:54 PM »
From a Tyronie POV...

* The "old" age system worked well as they fit well into school age profiles.

* While the jury is still out on the new age ranges, preliminarily anecdotal evidence doesn't appear to show any advantages over the older system.

* Getting the U19 age level competitions to be competitive/popular has been less than great. This year a league commenced at the start of April and the Grade 1 semi-finals have yet to be played with the last games played on the 25th April. Last year (when first established) quite a few clubs intended to enter teams but it ended up with nearly half of them either withdrawing before the start or only fulfilling one or two fixtures. This isn't exactly new in Tyrone however as in the last decade plus the U21 football championships were getting awkward to schedule/play before eventually being quietly dropped. A meaningful internal discussion/survey/census on post-U17 football in Tyrone is needed IMO.

* One thing I would agree on is that no player still eligible for the U17 grade should be playing in adult competitions. DuffleKing makes a good point in noting the varying physical development of players at this age (and below it) so you need to make a fair compromise on this and U17 is probably the best fit. The argument about this penalising smaller clubs isn't a valid enough one IMO - the way to counter that is to work on player retention. Nordie folks (mainly) will have noticed recently the story of a boy who's not even 14 years old playing soccer for Glenavon in a cup game recently to set a UK record - that felt a bit uncomfortable to read IMO especially as it was almost certainly a publicity stunt that he was brought on to play.

* Maybe it's a case of growing up in it, but I don't feel comfortable at U13 being the first "full" competitive age level. My reasons? Thirty years ago competitive football at U12 level was scrapped in Tyrone, long before the Go Games programs were adopted at a central level, with the first competitive age level for many years afterwards being U14. Looking at the evidence since it was introduced, this decision worked well for Tyrone (though it would be a stretch to suggest that this was either the only or the biggest reason) at underage development since then. In the mid-00's an autumn U13 competition was introduced, but only as a league (no championship) and with half the amount of games as the U14 league - originally it was to determine the File Peil champions and later on as a mini-competition to assist with grading at U14 level, and I felt it was a fair compromise. To me, the year's gap is a notable difference for player maturity. While a counter-argument can be made regarding school competitions & club tournaments, they're not the same IMO. Apples & oranges.

* Overall it's hard to think what would work best. None of the three options offered are ideal but then again they're not being presented as such and don't pretend to be.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 24, 2022, 10:22:52 PM »
Just to make a final post for the evening, I was in Healy Park this evening for the Ladies JFC final between Clonoe & Loughmacrory - well attended, must have been around 1000 or so at it.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 24, 2022, 10:04:03 PM »
I noticed that Fintona hurling result. It must have been some game! High scoring and tight as feck.

Great to see.

Was a good game, tight throughout most of it with a late goal sealing a win for us. Other semi-final is this Thursday night between Omagh & Dungannon - based from results & what I've seen Dungannon should be favourites in that game but I wouldn't rule out an Omagh upset.

Would be amiss not to say that it's not just boys that also play football too for Fintona that make up our hurling sides, we've lads from Eskra, Tattyreagh*, Dromore & Trillick involved in the hurling teams as well - but aside from some sporadic activity in years gone by from Dromore it's not a part of the county that has much hurling history so it's nice to see.

* Being diplomatic here!

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