Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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HiMucker

#465
October 12, 2023, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 12, 2023, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 12, 2023, 01:13:43 PMHas Von Der Lederhosen  deleted her Russian tweet from  last year yet?

A vile disgusting  human being. We're seeing a lot of those lately with  their  support for  Israel.
It's a very interesting time to be Irish when you see what is happening in UK politics with the 2 big parties outdoing themselves to service Israel. Ireland was one of 4 countries that prevented the EU from cutting humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. History really matters in situations like now.
Do you have a source for that Seafoid? Im surpirsed we aren't getting any flack for that.

PadraicHenryPearse

#466
October 12, 2023, 04:57:54 PM Last Edit: October 12, 2023, 05:09:17 PM by PadraicHenryPearse
Quote from: HiMucker on October 12, 2023, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 12, 2023, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 12, 2023, 01:13:43 PMHas Von Der Lederhosen  deleted her Russian tweet from  last year yet?

A vile disgusting  human being. We're seeing a lot of those lately with  their  support for  Israel.
It's a very interesting time to be Irish when you see what is happening in UK politics with the 2 big parties outdoing themselves to service Israel. Ireland was one of 4 countries that prevented the EU from cutting humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. History really matters in situations like now.
Do you have a source for that Seafoid? Im surpirsed we aren't getting any flack for that.

it was ourselves, the Spanish, Danes and Luxembourg. we questioned the legality of what another member state said about cutting aid, not sure which country

https://twitter.com/RoberBrandt/status/1711498248827834461?t=S2UYDmuyPpCXXJBild23xA&s=19

https://twitter.com/intifada/status/1712457359887421798?t=ofGNNBbQL9seN8ikuFebLA&s=19

https://www.reuters.com/world/germany-austria-suspend-bilateral-aid-palestinians-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-09/

gallsman

#467
October 12, 2023, 05:02:54 PM
It was an EU commissioner, not a member state. Was a major news story like, not that difficult to fact check.

PadraicHenryPearse

#468
October 12, 2023, 05:14:40 PM Last Edit: October 12, 2023, 05:34:42 PM by PadraicHenryPearse

Rudi

#471
October 12, 2023, 06:01:28 PM
Former defence minister & former prime minister of Israel, says it all. As blinkered as you got, 0% diplomacy. Sounds like a drunk hillbilly.
The journalist took no shite from him. Should probably have cut the bollix off earlier.

seafoid

#472
October 12, 2023, 06:19:05 PM
This is how Corbyn was removed and replaced by  a whore for Zionism

 https://youtu.be/Q61Kg7T3Z4Y?si=_xpIdOJTBbB01IYj

Milltown Row2

#473
October 12, 2023, 07:45:23 PM
Guy on 5 live tonight, an American general of sorts ... different to one who commented during week...

Anyways my god!! The pure drivel that came out of his mouth about wiping out Hamas and how that would be the only way to control the Middle East and create peace!!

Probably served in Vietnam or both times in Afghanistan or Korea maybe, who knows, but surely he hasn't a grip on reality?

How can he not see those actions never worked in the past? Why would they work now?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

PadraicHenryPearse

#474
October 12, 2023, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 07:45:23 PMGuy on 5 live tonight, an American general of sorts ... different to one who commented during week...

Anyways my god!! The pure drivel that came out of his mouth about wiping out Hamas and how that would be the only way to control the Middle East and create peace!!

Probably served in Vietnam or both times in Afghanistan or Korea maybe, who knows, but surely he hasn't a grip on reality?

How can he not see those actions never worked in the past? Why would they work now?

They know they cannot wipe out Hamas, or the Lions Den or PIJ or PFLP, but the status quo has allowed them to keep expanding, keep getting the handouts from the US, keep importing zionists, keep their foot on the neck of all Palestinians with no push back from the US/EU/UK.

I'm sure seeing how the leaders of the west can be just ignore the injustice of occupation in Palestine while pumping billions of arms and finances into another area under occupation probably emboldens them even further.

Dire Ear

#475
October 12, 2023, 09:08:05 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 12, 2023, 11:42:39 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 10:56:58 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 12, 2023, 10:20:03 AMRachel Riley has all the latest Israeli fabrications to justify carpet bombing Gaza

https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR


Seriously Rachel Riley?

Yeah she's been very outspoken for years in support of Isreal and regularly spouts anti-palestine propaganda.
Too much airtime being given to these pro-isreali mouthpieces who just regurgitate the Isreali state propaganda as fact.

I've no doubt Hamas have performed atrocities, but not at the same scale as the Isreali state has against the Palestinian people. There has been a systematic process of ethnic cleansing by Isreal for decades, landgrabbing and murdering, all in contravention to international law.
What does the world expect to happen under those circumstances? Isreal breaking the law, Palestinians suffering under their boot and yet Isreal is backed by the West. People will try to fight back themselves or they will support/elect people who will fight back on their behalf. Not all Palestinians will fully buy into the ethos of Hamas but they will still elect them as they will see them as their protectors. Hamas can only exist whilst the Palestinian people are being treated in this way by Isreal.
Hamas being declare terrorists is like calling the people of Ukraine terrorists for fighting back against a Russian agressor/occupier. I'm sure the Ukrainians have performed despicable acts, but they have the backing of the west (rightly in my opinion) as it's against the Russians. In this case the Isreali's have so much foreign clout that they have the backing of the west even though they are the agressor/occupier.

The people of Palestine have a bleak outlook, in no small part down to the actions of the British since the end of WW2.

The term anti-sematic is thrown out there at anyone who opposes the Israeli state and their actions. That's a despicable view, especially given how Jews suffered in holocaust. It's not anti-Jewish to be anti-Israel.


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AustinPowers

#476
October 12, 2023, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2023, 07:45:23 PMGuy on 5 live tonight, an American general of sorts ... different to one who commented during week...

Anyways my god!! The pure drivel that came out of his mouth about wiping out Hamas and how that would be the only way to control the Middle East and create peace!!

Probably served in Vietnam or both times in Afghanistan or Korea maybe, who knows, but surely he hasn't a grip on reality?

How can he not see those actions never worked in the past? Why would they work now?

Aye , wipe out Hamas , while  obliterating  Gaza at the same time .  That ought to create peace , as  there will be no Palestinians left

A psychotic shower of  murdering b******ds.

seafoid

#477
October 12, 2023, 09:23:12 PM
The contrast between Israel as victim (Saturday ) and Israel as predator (today) will have been noted across the Middle East. When Israel is a victim the need for international law is paramount. But when Israel is predator and backed by US and UK aircraft carriers there is no law to protect the Palestinians.

Armagh18

#478
October 12, 2023, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 12, 2023, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 12, 2023, 12:23:11 PMDo the Israelis not see the irony of starving & denying 2.2 million people their basis human rights. Whats their end game, death to all Palestinians. This is a reverse holocaust. Really disgusting stuff, as the leaders of the western world look on & support.
A ceasefire immediately, peace keepers from the UN, with humanitarian aid should be the worlds number 1 priority. 

Just incredible, what played out in history in the 1930s and 1940s and is taught in history books that has disgusted people for decades is once again playing out in front of our eyes.
If any politician dared to make that comparison they'd be cancelled and labelled an anti Semitic Nazi. 100% agree with you though.

Wildweasel74

#479
October 12, 2023, 09:34:02 PM
How have the Israelians got so much push in America anyway, a Jewish background be lucky to make up 2% of the population, where a Irish descent bound to be at 25%.There seems to be a disproportionate of Jewish descent in govts, Hollywood, etc how?.I didn't see the US give Ireland much heavy backing when we were getting the shit kicked out of us for years with a massive Irish voting background.Bit like Ukraine, they not really diving in head first, seem to get the impression they only got full tilt when the odds are 90% in their favour, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But stand back if its the UK, China, Russia. It's abit like Russia and been the playground bully on a world stage. How Israel ever get in Eurovision for instance? Nearly as bad as letting Australia in.
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