I heard on Newstalk last night that before the GAA was formed that cricket was the most popular sport in ireland back in the 1880's. Is this true, what a shocker !
Yes its true and in many clubs in Munster where originally Rugby teams who changed codes
I believe that's where the term "All-Ireland" was coined from....from the "All-England" set-up.
A wicket post Jack??
I don't get your post NKAB. It has me stumped.
Ahh now lads, ye have me knocked for six.
For god's sake is there no boundaries in this discussion?
I know. The standard of this thread is a dis-crease.
I agree! It needs that something extra.
Yeah, we need someone to spin a good yarn to liven it up!
Sorry for the break in the pun-fun, but this was a topic I researched a while ago, having read an article in Ireland's Own! Believe it or not, in 1882, Michael Cusack thought that the best game suited to the Irish was cricket. In a column he wrote at the time, he said that cricket was an Irish game and encouraged young men to take it up and purchase Irish made stumps etc. I was serious about the All-Ireland reference above, and even our GAA inter-county structure took its lead from the English All-England Club. By the 1880s the rural cricket structure was a rival to that which existed in England. A boyo who researched the origins of Cricket found the earliest reference to the game came in Irish literature when Cuchulainn 'defended the hole'. He came to the conclusion that thte game of Cricket was invented in Ireland.
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2006, 09:58:31 PM
Sorry for the break in the pun-fun, but this was a topic I researched a while ago, having read an article in Ireland's Own! Believe it or not, in 1882, Michael Cusack thought that the best game suited to the Irish was cricket. In a column he wrote at the time, he said that cricket was an Irish game and encouraged young men to take it up and purchase Irish made stumps etc. I was serious about the All-Ireland reference above, and even our GAA inter-county structure took its lead from the English All-England Club. By the 1880s the rural cricket structure was a rival to that which existed in England. A boyo who researched the origins of Cricket found the earliest reference to the game came in Irish literature when Cuchulainn 'defended the hole'. He came to the conclusion that the game of Cricket was invented in Ireland.
So is that the pun-fun............ over?
I'm playing on
Ziggysego, I think the phrase in cricket is "follow on" (if that's what you meant).
No matter, I'll give you 20/20 for effort.
Follow on
the team batting second continuing for their second innings, having fallen short of the "follow on target". The definition of this target has changed over time, but is currently 200 runs behind the first teams score in a 5 day game, 150 runs in a 4 day game, 100 runs in a 3 day event and 75 in a single day.
Playing on
for the batsman to hit the ball with his bat but only succeed in diverting it onto the stumps. The batsman is thus out bowled.
;)
Point taken. My apologies for questioning you.
I'm actually bowled over at your knowledge of the game.
Ah, I have a fair idea of the basic concept and rules of the game and that'll do me. Wouldn't be au-fait with all the terminology though.
Quote from: Take Your Points on November 23, 2006, 11:10:45 PM
I would be afraid that Ziggy could be run out of Greencastle if the locals got wind of his indepth knowledge of cricket.
I certain would have to say good
bye
That was a reply of the first order.
Sorry for the break in the pun-fun
Sorry O'Neill were you trying to declare and end to the pun fun?
He was trying to bring it to a short stop.
That's why I posted after O'Neill. I wanted to resume the pun-fun and was afraid his reign would stop play.
Yes Charlie. It did seam that way
And I suppose O'Neill will now appeal for us to get back onto the thread topic.
Charlie, I think thats WIDE of the mark there
No comment from most of our regular posters. No, not a dickie bird from any of them.
Heard that on Newstalk alright. Thank god for the GAA so!!!!
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2006, 09:58:31 PM
Sorry for the break in the pun-fun, but this was a topic I researched a while ago, having read an article in Ireland's Own! Believe it or not, in 1882, Michael Cusack thought that the best game suited to the Irish was cricket. In a column he wrote at the time, he said that cricket was an Irish game and encouraged young men to take it up and purchase Irish made stumps etc. I was serious about the All-Ireland reference above, and even our GAA inter-county structure took its lead from the English All-England Club. By the 1880s the rural cricket structure was a rival to that which existed in England. A boyo who researched the origins of Cricket found the earliest reference to the game came in Irish literature when Cuchulainn 'defended the hole'. He came to the conclusion that thte game of Cricket was invented in Ireland.
Are you for real? That's news to me, I know Dev said rugby was suited to the irish persona. 'xcuse me ignorance but how does 'defending the hole' refer specifically to cricket? ... or is this an elaborate wind up i'm not getting? ... surely that could be defending the goal? as in hurling ...
Cricket and hurling have very similar histories other then that, landlords used to have teams made up of their tennents and they'd take on other landlords etc.
i know hockey is thought to have come from winter hurling, and that summer hurling is what we know today as hurling, or so the history of the GAA book i read awhile back said anyways.
of course the Aristocracy felt that with a combination of their Westyesminister style of government and the game of cricket for the plebs, that all would be well with them primarily and the world in general, at least the bits interested to exploit.
It is the most boreing game on earth.
:'(
Wing and Spirit you are both hams!!!
I take it this thread has run out?
Cricket is very popular in the Fingal area , as is Gaelic Football. Also popular in North Cork I believe. Never played it myself but developed a liking for the game in Oz. Can't stand Shane Warne though. Met Glenn McGrath in a pub in Melbourne and he seemed sound.
Did you see "state of play" won the Hennesy Gold Cup today at 10/1 for all you cricket pun-dits.
Or should I say pun-ters?
Quote from: tayto on November 24, 2006, 10:12:04 AM
Heard that on Newstalk alright. Thank god for the GAA so!!!!
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2006, 09:58:31 PM
Sorry for the break in the pun-fun, but this was a topic I researched a while ago, having read an article in Ireland's Own! Believe it or not, in 1882, Michael Cusack thought that the best game suited to the Irish was cricket. In a column he wrote at the time, he said that cricket was an Irish game and encouraged young men to take it up and purchase Irish made stumps etc. I was serious about the All-Ireland reference above, and even our GAA inter-county structure took its lead from the English All-England Club. By the 1880s the rural cricket structure was a rival to that which existed in England. A boyo who researched the origins of Cricket found the earliest reference to the game came in Irish literature when Cuchulainn 'defended the hole'. He came to the conclusion that thte game of Cricket was invented in Ireland.
Are you for real? That's news to me, I know Dev said rugby was suited to the irish persona. 'xcuse me ignorance but how does 'defending the hole' refer specifically to cricket? ... or is this an elaborate wind up i'm not getting? ... surely that could be defending the goal? as in hurling ...
Cricket and hurling have very similar histories other then that, landlords used to have teams made up of their tennents and they'd take on other landlords etc.
i know hockey is thought to have come from winter hurling, and that summer hurling is what we know today as hurling, or so the history of the GAA book i read awhile back said anyways.
Seriously not a wind up. As far as I gathered Cusack wrote a column in "Shamrock" called "Our Boys". He intimated that Cricket was a game suited to the Irish (in 1882) and instructed readers how to play, form a club, and to buy Irish stumps, bats and balls. The sport was played in large numbers in rural areas throughout Ireland.
The 'defending the hole' comment was in reference to early literature detailing 'the game of the loop' or Lub, Luban or Lubog. The English then filled the hole and added stumps.
So are we saying that cricket was made in (maiden......... geddit?) in Ireland?
The puns are back NKAB.
Cheers Charlie. But as it's a serious topic I must try the search engine googly to see if I can find any information on this tail. I don't want to be caught behind or on the back foot by a jaffaor anything else silly from O'Neill and the rest of the selectors on this test
Wicket humour boys. How's that?
Quote from: ONeill on November 26, 2006, 08:55:13 AM
Wicket humour boys. How's that?
Nice
line O'Neill! I knew we could
appeal to your humourous nature. Mind you now that you have you have put me on the
back foot I'm feeling rather
stumped. While this isn't the thread of the
century I am interested
innings what you have to say about it. Looking forward to your next
delivery
Quote from: charlie linkbox on November 26, 2006, 12:58:48 AM
So are we saying that cricket was made in (maiden......... geddit?) in Ireland?
The puns are back NKAB.
That's a very
sweeping statement Charlie with a hint of
spin, but that well spotted pun
bails you out, i guess.
ONeills
bouncer and a good one it was,
followed on by
good line and length, will
stump those lurking at
silly point though.
You're on a very
sticky wicket indeed when you highlight the pre-eminence of the foreign game in 1800's Ireland.
It's just not cricket is it :D
i listen to newstalk as well the best gaa coverage on the radio good interviews and match commentary(dublin games). from a nordie point of view they have went to the bother of getting a bt lowcall number (0845 etc) even though their signal isnt strong in the north other stations also have this facility but never give out the number todayfm, rte radio 1 and 2fm thus ruling us out of competitions, points of view etc. eg it is now impossible for anyone in northern ireland to contact todayfm by phone. i think given this positive move by this station and their fast growing listnership the gaa should row in behind them we need positive coverage for a change. (dont start me on the bbc). meanwhile back to the cricket is it not similar to rounders a gaa game. if im right we are a world sport and dont know it . by the way i have discovered recently that i am bi-lingual i was listening to an ulster-scots programme on radio six county statelet and understood every word. im applying for new job can i put this on my cv ;)
Apply to the Ulster-Scots Booord.
What a declaration spectator!!!
When it comes to cricket, I don't know my arse from my lbw.
Brilliant hardy. Nearly collapsed laughing :D :D :D
A good test of a batsman's character is his ability to withstand sledging, cracks and leg-breaks.
Especially when one day, playing as night watchman, he runs out and slips into a gully :(
On a more light note though;
While cricket isn't everyones cup of tea, Sri-Lankans and Indians are known to be particularly partial to it :D
There's no Gatting past that one spectator. Watch the night man because if we don't behave ourselves O'Neill and co might boycott this thread or have us by the Tendulkars. It's Tru-man he Willis, then everyone will be Ponting the finger at us. Don't say I didn't Warne you. Mind you O'Neill is not a Bradman.
For Gil-Christ Sake!!! I'm getting awful-Lee Strauss-ed thinking up new puns that make sense and are Read-a-Bell.
Nope, can't think of one.
Hi Charlie, the strike rate on this thread is average. looks like we're headingly for a dismissal. Lords i hope it's over at least not be-four we are hit for six or run out of ideas.
I suppose you're right NKAB. This thread has reached the end of it's innings. It was a good test of word-play and went for a good length so we can be happy with our partnership.
I'm done posting on this one. Bye.
765 views for 50 posts declared. a good enough innings. Is that what you are saying. It's time for everyone to flint-off?
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