Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

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Armagh18

Having said that neither man could really complain if they got 3 each.

JoG2

Quote from: tonto1888 on June 06, 2024, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on June 06, 2024, 04:56:27 PMArmagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

You mustn't like any team if that's your bar

You boys must know Norm's MO at this stage!  ;D

marty34

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 06, 2024, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 06, 2024, 09:05:18 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 06, 2024, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 06, 2024, 03:26:09 PMAny deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.
Agreed. Totally stupid and needless from Mackin and on another day could have cost us.

What did McKinless get for his red or was it just the standard 1 match?

No mention of it but the talk at the time was 2. No way Mackin should be getting 1 game and McKinless 2.
Really? Tbh Mackins was just a dirty and daft but minimal force and he was never going to hurt Glass. Same can't be said about McKinless.

I'd regard the two as the same.

A kick, regardless of force, to the head is dangerous.

Derry supporters called Mc Kindless' dirty action out as stupid and reckless. Not one Derry supporter condoned it. Foolish action.

A lot of Armagh ones seem to be of the opinion of 'it was only a wee kick' in reference to Mackin's kick. Call it out lads. 

Mario

The reaction to McKinless's incident was wasn't helped by Comer being subbed due to an unrelated injury later on. Joyce suggested after the game that there might be a connection between the two events but Comer clearly had a hamstring injury.

tonto1888

Quote from: marty34 on June 06, 2024, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 06, 2024, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 06, 2024, 09:05:18 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 06, 2024, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 06, 2024, 03:26:09 PMAny deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.
Agreed. Totally stupid and needless from Mackin and on another day could have cost us.

What did McKinless get for his red or was it just the standard 1 match?

No mention of it but the talk at the time was 2. No way Mackin should be getting 1 game and McKinless 2.
Really? Tbh Mackins was just a dirty and daft but minimal force and he was never going to hurt Glass. Same can't be said about McKinless.

I'd regard the two as the same.

A kick, regardless of force, to the head is dangerous.

Derry supporters called Mc Kindless' dirty action out as stupid and reckless. Not one Derry supporter condoned it. Foolish action.

A lot of Armagh ones seem to be of the opinion of 'it was only a wee kick' in reference to Mackin's kick. Call it out lads. 

it was "only a wee kick" but it was out of order, could have had really bad consequences and he deserves a ban

Armagh18

Quote from: tonto1888 on June 07, 2024, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: marty34 on June 06, 2024, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 06, 2024, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 06, 2024, 09:05:18 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 06, 2024, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 06, 2024, 03:26:09 PMAny deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.
Agreed. Totally stupid and needless from Mackin and on another day could have cost us.

What did McKinless get for his red or was it just the standard 1 match?

No mention of it but the talk at the time was 2. No way Mackin should be getting 1 game and McKinless 2.
Really? Tbh Mackins was just a dirty and daft but minimal force and he was never going to hurt Glass. Same can't be said about McKinless.

I'd regard the two as the same.

A kick, regardless of force, to the head is dangerous.

Derry supporters called Mc Kindless' dirty action out as stupid and reckless. Not one Derry supporter condoned it. Foolish action.

A lot of Armagh ones seem to be of the opinion of 'it was only a wee kick' in reference to Mackin's kick. Call it out lads. 

it was "only a wee kick" but it was out of order, could have had really bad consequences and he deserves a ban
Agreed. Totally stupid. Anyone know when the meeting takes place to decide if he's being punished?

bennydorano

Have Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

JoG2

Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

No place for either incidents in our games, but the bit in bold is gold, sweet jesus.. Just a kick in the head, nothing to see here. This is
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

Golden Benny! My county mans kicking a player lying in the ground in the head is nowhere near as bad as another county's player stepping on another player on the ground.. Fcuk me pink

mackers

Quote from: JoG2 on June 07, 2024, 10:31:23 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

No place for either incidents in our games, but the bit in bold is gold, sweet jesus.. Just a kick in the head, nothing to see here. This is
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

Golden Benny! My county mans kicking a player lying in the ground in the head is nowhere near as bad as another county's player stepping on another player on the ground.. Fcuk me pink

Stepping?? Stepping?? Stop will ya....
Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry and the world will turn.

JoG2

Quote from: mackers on June 07, 2024, 10:37:50 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 07, 2024, 10:31:23 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

No place for either incidents in our games, but the bit in bold is gold, sweet jesus.. Just a kick in the head, nothing to see here. This is
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

Golden Benny! My county mans kicking a player lying in the ground in the head is nowhere near as bad as another county's player stepping on another player on the ground.. Fcuk me pink

Stepping?? Stepping?? Stop will ya....

You see... That's how the regular gaa supporter rolls.

GTP

Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.
You have said don't punish him as it will be appealed, and he will win because he was pushed before the incident, but it was idiotic and a red card offence. I am not sure if you are saying the GAAs disciplinary process is rubbish so it is a waste of time suspending someone or that because he got away with it on the field he should be left alone. Although both are probably true.
On the extenuating circumstances, having watched a video of the incident the player is pushed forward, appears to stop, then flicks the boot at head of his opponent. The push looks to have had no effect on his actions though he could use it as an excuse to say his momentum caused his foot to make contact with the head.
On the basis that it would be a deterrent to behaviour such as this (and McKinless' previously) it should be looked at with a view to a suspension of some sort.

Keyser soze

That wee woman that shouted at Conor Glass should get a 2 match ban as well IMO.

If Armagh supporters are allowed to get away with shite like shouting at our Conor they will be shouting at every opposition player before you know it.


tonto1888

Quote from: GTP on June 07, 2024, 10:55:29 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.
You have said don't punish him as it will be appealed, and he will win because he was pushed before the incident, but it was idiotic and a red card offence. I am not sure if you are saying the GAAs disciplinary process is rubbish so it is a waste of time suspending someone or that because he got away with it on the field he should be left alone. Although both are probably true.
On the extenuating circumstances, having watched a video of the incident the player is pushed forward, appears to stop, then flicks the boot at head of his opponent. The push looks to have had no effect on his actions though he could use it as an excuse to say his momentum caused his foot to make contact with the head.
On the basis that it would be a deterrent to behaviour such as this (and McKinless' previously) it should be looked at with a view to a suspension of some sort.


if he isnt pushed he doesnt kick glass but the push did not make him kick glass. That was his own stupidity. He deserves a ban

illdecide

Quote from: JoG2 on June 07, 2024, 10:31:23 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

No place for either incidents in our games, but the bit in bold is gold, sweet jesus.. Just a kick in the head, nothing to see here. This is
Quote from: bennydorano on June 07, 2024, 09:52:45 AMHave Derry gaaboarders demanded a meeting of the CCCC? Wouldn't have thought there is any notion of a disciplinary meeting about it. It would be a waste of time for all concerned, any punishment handed down would almost certainly be overturned (if appealed) as there were extenuating circumstances - he was pushed (it was as forceful a push as it was a kick to the head - i.e not very hard). The kick was idiotic, if caught red card surely. Trying to equate it to McKinless's act of thuggery is nonsense tho.

Golden Benny! My county mans kicking a player lying in the ground in the head is nowhere near as bad as another county's player stepping on another player on the ground.. Fcuk me pink

And call me "Rosie"
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

AustinPowers

Quote from: Keyser soze on June 07, 2024, 11:07:52 AMThat wee woman that shouted at Conor Glass should get a 2 match ban as well IMO.

If Armagh supporters are allowed to get away with shite like shouting at our Conor they will be shouting at every opposition player before you know it.



Any footage?