Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[Wildweasel74]

Any deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.

[blanketattack]

In hindsight rushing The Glen players back with Derry without rest seems like such a dumb move.
Actually, forget hindsight, at the time it seemed a dumb move.

What's the max you give them 2 weeks? Would that make much of a difference now. They all got time off during the league. Glass said he likes a game every week rather than long rest periods, it means lighter training. None of them have been injured. They had 4 weeks without a game after the Donegal game. There are plenty of reasons to criticise Harte the past few weeks but I don't think that's a factor.

No one mentioned it as an issue last year when they should have beat Kerry in the AI semi

Didn't need to mention it - running out of steam and getting outscored 5 to 1 in the final stretch told its own tale.

Derry didn't run out steam, took 3 wrong options which would have put the game to bed pretty much.

Wrong decision making is a symptom of fatigue

So, trying to work a goal, and the thinking involved, extra movement, speed etc is a symptom of fatigue, and not just taking the much much simpler option of either tapping of fisting over the bar? Ok

Yes, precisely that scenario. The clarity of thought by a fully functioning brain would have gone for the easy point.

The tired mind doesn't see the variety of options open to it.

Or it, was drilled into the team that they needed goals and hence went for the jugular to put the game out of sight. A tired mind will literally have a player take the easiest option to him at the time ie tap the thing over, not over complete it

No, a tired mind will often do the long winded way of doing something.
I see it myself at work doing the same long winded way of doing some process, while a rested sharp mind will see a quicker more efficient way of doing it.

last Derry free should have been dropped in for an attempt for goal rather than getting beat by 2pts.

Thought it was an attempt to drop it in but was just completely miskicked.
Should never just drop it in from a free anyway if looking for a goal, play it to another player first like the Glen v Kilmacud final to have a much more advantageous square ball rule.

[David McKeown]

When you're winning games you have a spring in your step, when you're losing your legs are like lead. That's how it is and you can look at all the excuses of why someone is not doing this or that. Yes, they have had a heavy workload but i'm sure it's managed rightly by their Sports Science team. For me I'd say they're mentally fatigued rather than physically but if Derry get over the line with Westmeath and grind their way back into the Championship it's a high probability that they'll knock a team out of the Championship that have already beaten them.

I thought they couldn't meet a team they have already met unless it was unavoidable?

[Armagh18]

Would love to see ourselves, Donegal or Galway get a go at Dublin, not saying any of those would beat them but just a fixture that hasn't happened in championship in a good few years, give us all something different. We've seen Kerry Dublin and Dublin Mayo enough over the last few years!

Dublin will beat any of those teams.

Jaysus someone would need to. Unless Clifford can find his form Kerry haven't much hope against them.

[Norm-Peterson]

Armagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

[Solo_run]

Armagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

Poor little you.

[balladmaker]

Armagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

I tend to dislike any team who are destroying the team I'm supporting.

[Captain Obvious]

Armagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

I tend to dislike any team who are destroying the team I'm supporting.

Ouch!

[naka]

Armagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

Sorry for your troubles
Am sure the orchard will be instructing their team not to annoy poor delicate souls like you .

[bennydorano]

The draw suits me. At the start of the year I posted that I wanted Derry to give Armagh another sickener in an Ulster final. I didn't get that but they can always sicken them in Celtic park.

Norm knows his stuff, not bitter either.

[tonto1888]

Any deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.

At least

[tonto1888]

Armagh are a very unlikeable team, a lot of nasty individuals. Screaming in players faces and the like. It is one thing playing with aggression but it is another thing being nasty. Also on the TV broadcast I noticed an Armagh woman hurl abuse at Glass, I think it was around the end of first half.

You mustn't like any team if that's your bar

[Armagh18]

Any deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.

Agreed. Totally stupid and needless from Mackin and on another day could have cost us.

What did McKinless get for his red or was it just the standard 1 match?

[screenexile]

Any deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.

Agreed. Totally stupid and needless from Mackin and on another day could have cost us.

What did McKinless get for his red or was it just the standard 1 match?

No mention of it but the talk at the time was 2. No way Mackin should be getting 1 game and McKinless 2.

[Armagh18]

Any deliberate contact with a man head on the ground should be a 2 match ban.

Agreed. Totally stupid and needless from Mackin and on another day could have cost us.

What did McKinless get for his red or was it just the standard 1 match?

No mention of it but the talk at the time was 2. No way Mackin should be getting 1 game and McKinless 2.

Really? Tbh Mackins was just a dirty and daft but minimal force and he was never going to hurt Glass. Same can't be said about McKinless.