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It's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

I've maybe worded that wrong. Obviously it's very serious whats being talked about. But f**k off with your sly digs.

Another week another bullshit red to save EC.

Aye, leading with an elbow to the head is mighty craic most weeks.

Mistimed shoulder ffs. Barely touched him

What a clown you are deserved red. You be the sort of man to say nothing happened on the armagh trip too.

Don't bring that into it.

I haven't commented on the Armagh trip, have no idea what went on and won't be commenting on it.

It's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

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Will do a separate post on the Kerry structure (for the 500th time!) but for now, fair play to Kilmurry on their win. Much the better team tonight.

For those wondering why they are in a third Munster Junior final, they won the old Junior A in Cork in 2022, lost Munster Final to Fossa.
Lost the Premier Junior (new grade) final in Cork to St Finbarrs 2nd team last year and lost Munster Final to Listowel.

Won the Premier Junior this year and now won Munster. Unusual one but just a factor of the Cork restructuring.

Have seen your previous posts and fair play for the way it's run, think the divisional teams are a brilliant idea and would love to see them tried in Armagh because I know theres lads at smaller clubs who would love to play against the best players and would be well able to.

No matter how you slice it though, the 9th ranked team shouldn't be going to Munster intermediate.

I doubt you'd find anyone that will disagree with the last line Armagh18 - that's why Kerry are making changes so that there will be 10 Clubs in Senior championship by 2026. I think it should have been done for next year but anyway.

People seem to forget that Kerry had 11 Senior clubs up until I think 2014 or 2015 and along with the 9 divisional teams there were 20 team in the SFC. So 12th rank team was going into Munster Intermediate. There were still 4/5 Kerry winners and 2 runners-up before this.

Anyway, everyone agrees change is needed and it's coming. The reason it didn't happen well before now is the narrow minded attitude of Croke park and their "one size fits all" approach to county championships. There's 100 years of history of Divisional teams in Kerry in the County championship and we're not sacrificing that as it works and works well for us. So when Croke park tried to pressurise Kerry (and Cork) then it was a reduction in club numbers that followed. It could have been worse only that Kenmare district divisional team dropped out of the championship, but sin scéal eile!

Even the 12th ranked team for a county with the pick and tradition Kerry have is probably too strong for an intermediate provincial. How many clubs are in Kerry?

Could Kerry and Cork not both stick to 16 senior teams and send team 17 into intermediate?

16 club teams?? Not a hope to be totally honest, no way is there 16 Senior level clubs in Kerry. Would just lead to a load of hammerings in SFC. This was happening a bit a few years ago and was one of the reasons the number of Senior clubs was scaled back. They went too far down to 8, so it's being adjusted up to 10 again, rightly.

In County SFC We have 8 Divisional teams that are there to stay anyway (although there's a possibility of a merger of 2 of those teams, so 10 clubs along with 7/8 divisional teams those is about the right formula as far as I'm concerned.

To answer your question, there is around 58 clubs in Kerry championships. There are a few clubs hanging onto existence just about unfortunately who exist on paper but barely field outside of regional leagues. There used to be over 70 clubs. South Kerry area is decimated for one thing and the region that produced Jack O'Shea, Mick O'Connell, Maurice Fitzgerald, Mick O'Dwyer, Declan O'Sullivan and others is in a really bad way with once proud clubs amalgamating, often 3 or 4 together to make one minor team. Valentia, the club of Mick O'Connell, refielded for the first time in 5 years or so this year to stop being de-registered but they are hanging on.

I often feel like someone should do a Q&A on Kerry structures here!

Also just on Cork - they put their 25th ranked team into Munster Intermediate -  winners of Premier Intermediate championship.
Premier Senior (12 clubs + Divisions)
Senior A (12 clubs)
Premier Intermediate (12)
Intermediate A (12)
Premier Junior (12)
Junior A - literally hundreds of teams, divided into various regions.

This is the Cork structure with the winners of bolded going into Munster.

If theres 58 teams in Kerry surely they should go 16, senior 16, intermediate, 16 junior and then 10 or whatever is left into junior b?

Theres always going to be a fair drop off between the best 2 or 3 teams in the county and the 15/16 best that's to be expected.

You realise there's 8 divisional teams in Kerry Senior championship? 16 clubs would mean a 24 team championship. Not happening.

No, have a 16 team championship made up of clubs, winners goes to Munster. Run the divisional craic separate to it.

It was some score to win it

Pity TG4 didnt show the turnover from the kickout.

Some fetch by Oguz in thr previous play after the mishit shot.

Another week another bullshit red to save EC.

Aye, leading with an elbow to the head is mighty craic most weeks.

Mistimed shoulder ffs. Barely touched him

Another week another bullshit red to save EC.

Johnston with two blatant boxes at Darragh. f**k they're some tramps.

Couldn't hit that wee huer hard enough in fairness.

Big swing there with the goal ruled out Kilcoo down and get a point

Who's the ref?

He's showing a usually high tolerance for aggressive tackling so far.

I applaud.

That'll solve more problems than any rule changes tbh.

Lucky that wasn't black

How is that not a black card???

Probably just because of how early it was. Proper bear hug drag down wasn't it.

Lucky that wasn't black

58 clubs in Kerry still way more than a no.of places. There counties with less were playing 16 team senior championship for many a year.

16 should be the norm imo. Then make exceptions for the small counties like Fermanagh.

Is it hard to get rid of players?

Who would want them? Lazy huers on huge money

I know someone that runs a popular establishment in the cathedral quarter. Prime location, plenty of footfall etc. £200k pm turnover - I'll eat my hat if any of you can guess what % profit it makes.

5%? After wages rent insurance electric/gas rates food costs if they have food, stock and so on

Lower

Would need to be 1% then as breaking even is living from paycheque to paycheque and not a good model.

In the main (back in the day) 5% was seen as the norm

4% on a good month. It may be the norm but it's barely worth it and this is one of the more popular bars. Place is packed every weekend and busy midweek. They always up their prices and are charging £6+ for a pint. That's before you get into all the shit that comes with running a bar

Would well believe it. Rent/rates/power costs are extortionate.