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Title: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2013, 05:43:06 PM
Now this should be a cracker. Tyrone need to play more positively but have some great players as do mayo. It's a great feeling to be 1 of the 3 counties there on all Ireland day. Mayo will be favourites but as its a final we should bate them.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: theticklemister on September 01, 2013, 05:50:36 PM
Dont forget to tell the tyrone lads always to kick the ball when on the fifth tackle
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2013, 05:56:07 PM
Anyone got a lend of a Mayo jersey ? will do for both games....
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 01, 2013, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: rrhf on September 01, 2013, 05:43:06 PM
Now this should be a cracker. Tyrone need to play more positively but have some great players as do mayo. It's a great feeling to be 1 of the 3 counties there on all Ireland day. Mayo will be favourites but as its a final we should bate them.

Ah yeah, we'll just spin the holy Joe line for the next 3 weeks. Media will spin the Cynical Tyrone line. Referee (who is a hermit and does not read the paper, has no TV or Radio) will take pity and it's Sam Junior across the Shannon. ;)

By the way thanks for beating Roscommon, unlike ye they are a good side and we feared them!

Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2013, 05:56:07 PM
Anyone got a lend of a Mayo jersey ? will do for both games....

I told you there are allot of spare ones in Kerry, although there a newer ones at the moment in Tyrone!
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: rrhf on September 01, 2013, 08:36:18 PM
The pace of the MAyo team the last day was a major factor.  The key for TYrone will be how are they going to deal with that pace.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Club Rossa on September 01, 2013, 09:12:45 PM
Laoislad don't be such a miserable fooker,go and buy a Mayo jersey.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
I see Mayo have lost their last 6 minor finals. You have to give it to that county. They are remarkably consistent in finals at all levels.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 01, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 01, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
I see Mayo have lost their last 6 minor finals. You have to give it to that county. They are remarkably consistent in finals at all levels.

Would be quite embarrassing to lose to a county with that record! ;)
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: trileacman on September 01, 2013, 11:28:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 01, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 01, 2013, 09:34:29 PM
I see Mayo have lost their last 6 minor finals. You have to give it to that county. They are remarkably consistent in finals at all levels.

Would be quite embarrassing to lose to a county with that record! ;)

Nah tis more embarassing to have that record.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:00:45 AM
Have Mayo ever lost both finals in one year? That'd be a new goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:14:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:00:45 AM
Have Mayo ever lost both finals in one year? That'd be a new goal.

Looks like ye are in line to lose most of the finals ye appeared in this year, League, Ulster Minor and AI Minor?
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:20:41 AM
BTW. Should we bother capitalising Mayo in the thread title?
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:23:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:20:41 AM
BTW. Should we bother capitalising Mayo in the thread title?

No need, the minor is only that for us on AI day! You can run along now!
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
If Mayo lose both finals, how do you make sense of your existence down there?
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:33:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
If Mayo lose both finals, how do you make sense of your existence down there?

But we are going to win both finals, especially the Minor! That will be the easy one! Sure we already beat Monaghan handy who beat ye!

How will ye feel winning nothing this year?
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:36:18 AM
Tyrone won McKenna Cup 2013.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:36:18 AM
Tyrone won McKenna Cup 2013.

Like i said, How will ye feel winning nothing this year?

(Did ye have a homecoming for it?)
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:40:16 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:00:45 AM
Have Mayo ever lost both finals in one year? That'd be a new goal.

Mayo are ok in this department.

Kerry lost both in 1982, the year of Seamus Darby goal.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: ross4life on September 02, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
This Tyrone minor team is not a patch on their last minor team that beat us (2008) while this is probably the best Mayo minor team since 2008. Will be a big surprised if our neighbours don't win this win and i expect them to win by 4-6 points.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:44:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:36:18 AM
Tyrone won McKenna Cup 2013.

Like i said, How will ye feel winning nothing this year?

(Did ye have a homecoming for it?)

Right up there with The Mall in Castlebar 2012.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:46:10 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:44:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2013, 12:36:18 AM
Tyrone won McKenna Cup 2013.

Like i said, How will ye feel winning nothing this year?

(Did ye have a homecoming for it?)

Right up there with The Mall in Castlebar 2012.


Meeeeooooooow! Got ya!
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Crete Boom on September 02, 2013, 10:05:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
If Mayo lose both finals, how do you make sense of your existence down there?

A few barrels of porter and a couple of bottles of whiskey on the Sat night and repeat again on the Sunday night usually does the trick although with two potential victories losses I would probably up the doseage starting on the Friday night to put some extra foundation in ;).
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Chimley on September 02, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: ross4life on September 02, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
This Tyrone minor team is not a patch on their last minor team that beat us (2008) while this is probably the best Mayo minor team since 2008. Will be a big surprised if our neighbours don't win this win and i expect them to win by 4-6 points.

Think our 2010 team was better than 2008 and should have beaten the highly rated Tyrone team in the semi. However both were beaten by Tyrone, so that is all we need to know with regard to our prospects in the final. Our luck is due a turn.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: clarshack on September 02, 2013, 01:26:58 PM
this team is probably the weakest tyrone minor team to reach an all ireland final since i've been following football. there's a lot of ordinary players in the side but i think its a reflection on the standard of minor level as a whole throughout the country.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 02, 2013, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: clarshack on September 02, 2013, 01:26:58 PM
this team is probably the weakest tyrone minor team to reach an all ireland final since i've been following football. there's a lot of ordinary players in the side but i think its a reflection on the standard of minor level as a whole throughout the country.

I'd agree with that. I am not sure any of the lads will feature for Tyrone seniors bar maybe McKenna. Saying that in reaching the AI final and attaining more than the sum of their parts that says more about the team than anything.

They all have a work ethic and give 100%. Qualities that appeal to Mickey Harte so you never know re making the Tyrone break through.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Rois on September 02, 2013, 02:04:49 PM
Someone told me that quite a lot of the players will still be underage next year too - or is that just McKenna?
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: ross4life on September 02, 2013, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: Chimley on September 02, 2013, 11:26:54 AM
Quote from: ross4life on September 02, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
This Tyrone minor team is not a patch on their last minor team that beat us (2008) while this is probably the best Mayo minor team since 2008. Will be a big surprised if our neighbours don't win this win and i expect them to win by 4-6 points.

Think our 2010 team was better than 2008 and should have beaten the highly rated Tyrone team in the semi. However both were beaten by Tyrone, so that is all we need to know with regard to our prospects in the final. Our luck is due a turn.

True you should have beaten Tyrone likewise Galway when they should have beaten Cork but IMO the 2010 team were carried by free scoring Cillian O'Connor & the standard of minor level back then was lower than now or in 2008.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Crete Boom on September 02, 2013, 04:43:45 PM
 Well Tyrone will be confident no matter how limited they think these minors are because they more often than not get the better of us at underage level.

The one think that might stand to us is we often perfrom well in minor finals like in 2008 & 2009 and don't seem to collapse to the same degree as the seniors have in recent times.
 
It is minor level though and while we have performed well in all the games up to this but our minors haven't faced any real defensive teams bar Monaghan last time out and their defensive system was fairly rudementry compare to Tyrone's counter attack game (they haven't played a blanket defence since the Kerry semi in 2003 but don't let the bar stool experts know that ;)) which might swamp our attacking wing backs?

We have tons of firepower up front but like most minor teams they can shoot on sight from crazy angles if under pressure and if Tyrone push Burns into midfield from the start Val Roughneen and O Connor could struggle.

It should be a titanic battle between McKenna and Coen on the forty.

I think Goals will as always be vital and Mayo have average nearly 3 (2.8 to be exact) per game so if we hit our average again I think we should do it but will we have the patience to break down Tyrone because it can be taken as a given they will have the composure to wear us down with plenty of attacking skill to throw into the mix too!
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 02, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: Rois on September 02, 2013, 02:04:49 PM
Someone told me that quite a lot of the players will still be underage next year too - or is that just McKenna?

Yeah. Funny I come on here to retract my statement about none of the players making it for Tyrone. I hadn't realized that quite a few of the boys are still eligible next season. In fact the CHF (Mulgrew?) has another 2 years left at minor!
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: larryin89 on September 02, 2013, 07:37:04 PM
If we don't win this ,I give up.Tyrone were pretty ordinary yesterday to put it mildly,Ross should of won,very unlucky not to develop a big margin before ht.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: sam03/05 on September 02, 2013, 08:14:12 PM
a lot of the Tyrone team underage next year
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Whishtup on September 02, 2013, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:33:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
If Mayo lose both finals, how do you make sense of your existence down there?

But we are going to win both finals, especially the Minor! That will be the easy one! Sure we already beat Monaghan handy who beat ye!

How will ye feel winning nothing this year?

We nearly won the milk cup...
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 02, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
Was delighted that Roscommon were beaten yesterday, was at the CF and apart from the two early goals, Roscommon were more than a match for us...............Mayo to win this one by 6 plus.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: BennyHarp on September 02, 2013, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on September 02, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
Was delighted that Roscommon were beaten yesterday, was at the CF and apart from the two early goals, Roscommon were more than a match for us...............Mayo to win this one by 6 plus.

And the logic here is............? Tyrone beat a team that should have beat Mayo
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on September 02, 2013, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on September 02, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
Was delighted that Roscommon were beaten yesterday, was at the CF and apart from the two early goals, Roscommon were more than a match for us...............Mayo to win this one by 6 plus.

And the logic here is............? Tyrone beat a team that should have beat Mayo

Is it easy to understand traffic lights when all you can see is red and white, Benny?
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: BennyHarp on September 02, 2013, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on September 02, 2013, 09:42:26 PM
Quote from: An Gaeilgoir on September 02, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
Was delighted that Roscommon were beaten yesterday, was at the CF and apart from the two early goals, Roscommon were more than a match for us...............Mayo to win this one by 6 plus.

And the logic here is............? Tyrone beat a team that should have beat Mayo

Is it easy to understand traffic lights when all you can see is red and white, Benny?

I'm not commenting on whether I think Tyrone will beat Mayo in the final or not, as I have only seen Mayo play once so I don't think I'm in a position to comment. What I am commenting on is the logic that Roscommon were more than a match for Mayo so he's glad they are out. Yet he'd prefer to play the team that beat them and thinks they will win comfortably. I'd guess Sunday was the first time he'd saw Tyrone play a full game this year, yet he is able to use twisted logic to predict the outcome of the final. No red and white glasses here - Tyrone may not win but they have no less a chance than Roscommon.
Title: Re: All Ireland final 2013 Tyrone v mayo (minors)
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2013, 11:32:24 PM
Quote from: Rois on September 02, 2013, 02:04:49 PM
Someone told me that quite a lot of the players will still be underage next year too - or is that just McKenna?

9 or 10 is what I heard.