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#1
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 26, 2024, 01:08:40 PMI think other countries are/have an equal ability at lying and propaganda and actually think they are better at it than the Russians. Russian propaganda seems very ineffective in that the whole western world doesn't believe a word they say.

Having a Jewish president doesn't mean there isn't Nazis, look at Israeli actions. there is plenty of evidence of Nazis in Ukraine, the avoz battalion, plenty of articles from 2014 about them. to be clear that doesn't justify anything Russia has done but I know questioning anything on this topic other than war is great, ans more weapons for ukraine, gets labeled as kremlin spiel.
No, not the whole world ::)
How many Kremlin sourced narratives are out there around the war against Ukraine?
I´ve lost count, even the useful idiots can't keep up with the Kremlin's ability to shift, many of them in the west are still on about NATO expansiveness as being the cause when even Putin doesn't talk about that one any longer to the West, perhaps humiliated by the NATO membership of Finland and Sweden and the Kremlin ability re their threats, reduced to the level of a barking dog.
The point of all those Kremlin narratives is that each one gains traction among some group or other,
like your self and others falling for this baloney canard.
Quote"there is plenty of evidence of Nazis in Ukraine, the Azov battalion, plenty of articles from 2014 about them. to be clear that doesn't justify anything Russia"

The Azov battalion with nazi symbols existed in 2014, a small faction in the UKR army and now does not exist in any shape or form as a far right battalion. The far right political parties did not gain any seats in the free and fair 2014 onward elections after the ousting of the pro Russian  government.
Nazis in Ukraine!!!  what a load of Kremlin dung.
As for yourself  :D



#2
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 25, 2024, 02:20:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2024, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 25, 2024, 07:51:22 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2024, 12:30:56 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 24, 2024, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 24, 2024, 04:47:05 PMAMAQ news (traditionally linked to ISIS) report on claims that the 4 man unit are very much alive.
The four people who killed over 170 Russians yesterday in a shopping mall in Moscow are doing fine.

While Russians show fake arrests near the border with Ukraine, the (allegedly) real commando is already thinking about the next target.



Main Street in terms of providing  reliable information you have ISIS above Russia? No judgement, just a genuine question
What is your question? The Kremlin lies about everything, all of the time since inception.I offered a link to what AMAQ reported who have a reliable record of being accurate re ISIS stuff. I inserted "(allegedly)", perhaps you do not understand what alleged means?
Russia is a terrorist state.


I have a couple of questions now. One, is ISIS a more reliable news source than Russia in your opinion?

Russia is a terrorist state, what is ISIS? Israel? America, US, UK, etc.


Whatabout whatabout, same old Kremlin spiel, you're a terrorist state therefore don't comment on our 100 year reign of terror inside Russia and inside the previously occupied nations of eastern Europe.

Why don't you just apply same level of scrutiny to Russia's imperialism as you do to US war mongering The USA & UK lied through their backsides about Iraq,  who's disputing that? What's your point, that Russia can therefore invade Ukraine and attempt to destroy a sovereign nation because that's the way of the world?
Russia is a mafia mob sadistic terrorist state, there is no communist party anymore the KGB have taken over total control.

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you are putting loads of words in my mouth there... nowhere have I even hinted at anything you suggested.

It was two simple questions. Still not answered if you have ISIS as more reliable than Russia for information.

As people continually say Russia don't need a reason to carry out the attacks it does, its just an evil terrorist state, kgb run, sadistic mob etc. yet then there is speculation on false flags etc. and they are trying to create a narrative for something..

I hold them all to the same standard or try to but that isn't the same for those countries that can prevent a genocide for example, they chose to actively support it.
It's an inane  question to pose, who is the most reliable source,  ISIS or Russia? I don't know about ISIS's reliability re their propaganda
however, Russia is reliably the World's most effective with propaganda and lying.

 For the past 100 years the Kremlin have lying and propaganda down to an art form. There is nothing on planet earth that comes close.The resources devoted to the KGB and propaganda are enormous by any standard.

Re the war against Ukraine, it's the simple ploys that work the best, such as  ascribing their own traits to the opponent.

eg "You are the Nazis" "You are genocidal" "You are the rapists"
Tim Snyder terms this "schizoid-fascism" to describe actual fascists who call their enemies fascists.
The Kremlin wages a genocidal war against a democratic nation with a Jewish President and calls the victims Nazis. How to explain away this absurdity?  As Hitler recommended, tell a lie that´s just too big and outrageous to be resisted. Lavrov on Italian tv then repeated the canard that "Hitler was part-Jewish", therefore  "Jews are the worst anti-Semites".
#3
Timothy Snyder blog

Moscow Terror  A Chronology that Might Help Predict

1. US warns that Russia will invade Ukraine.  General disbelief, daily Russian mockery. (December 3 2021-February 24 2022)

2.  Russia invades Ukraine, kills tens of thousands of people, kidnaps tens of thousands of children, commits other ongoing war crimes (February 24 2022-present)

3.  Russia blames US for Russia's invasion of Ukraine (March 2022-present)

4. US warns of terror attack in Moscow.  Putin denies any risk and mocks the United States. (March 7 and March 19 2024).

5.  Terror attack near Moscow, ISIS takes responsibility, Russia meanwhile kills Ukrainian citizens with drones and missiles as it has for more than two years. (today, March 22 2024)

6.  Russia's security apparatus, focused on bringing carnage to Ukraine, has failed in Moscow.  Russia's leaders, focused on demonizing the US, did not protect Russians.  What next?  Where to direct the blame?

7.  It would not be very surprising if the Kremlin blames Ukraine and the United States for terror in Moscow and uses the Moscow attack to justify continuing and future atrocities in Ukraine.
#4
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 25, 2024, 07:51:22 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2024, 12:30:56 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 24, 2024, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 24, 2024, 04:47:05 PMAMAQ news (traditionally linked to ISIS) report on claims that the 4 man unit are very much alive.
The four people who killed over 170 Russians yesterday in a shopping mall in Moscow are doing fine.

While Russians show fake arrests near the border with Ukraine, the (allegedly) real commando is already thinking about the next target.



Main Street in terms of providing  reliable information you have ISIS above Russia? No judgement, just a genuine question
What is your question? The Kremlin lies about everything, all of the time since inception.I offered a link to what AMAQ reported who have a reliable record of being accurate re ISIS stuff. I inserted "(allegedly)", perhaps you do not understand what alleged means?
Russia is a terrorist state.


I have a couple of questions now. One, is ISIS a more reliable news source than Russia in your opinion?

Russia is a terrorist state, what is ISIS? Israel? America, US, UK, etc.


Whatabout whatabout, same old Kremlin spiel, you're a terrorist state therefore don't comment on our 100 year reign of terror inside Russia and inside the previously occupied nations of eastern Europe.

Why don't you just apply same level of scrutiny to Russia's imperialism as you do to US war mongering The USA & UK lied through their backsides about Iraq,  who's disputing that? What's your point, that Russia can therefore invade Ukraine and attempt to destroy a sovereign nation because that's the way of the world?
Russia is a mafia mob sadistic terrorist state, there is no communist party anymore the KGB have taken over total control.

.

#5
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on March 24, 2024, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 24, 2024, 04:47:05 PMAMAQ news (traditionally linked to ISIS) report on claims that the 4 man unit are very much alive.
The four people who killed over 170 Russians yesterday in a shopping mall in Moscow are doing fine.

While Russians show fake arrests near the border with Ukraine, the (allegedly) real commando is already thinking about the next target.



Main Street in terms of providing  reliable information you have ISIS above Russia? No judgement, just a genuine question
What is your question? The Kremlin lies about everything, all of the time since inception.I offered a link to what AMAQ reported who have a reliable record of being accurate re ISIS stuff. I inserted "(allegedly)", perhaps you do not understand what alleged means?
Russia is a terrorist state.







#6
AMAQ news (traditionally linked to ISIS) report on claims that the 4 man unit are very much alive.
The four people who killed over 170 Russians yesterday in a shopping mall in Moscow are doing fine.

While Russians show fake arrests near the border with Ukraine, the (allegedly) real commando is already thinking about the next target.

#7
Quote from: Itchy on March 23, 2024, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Emmett Greene on March 23, 2024, 01:17:11 PMAnyway.. regardless of who is behind this attack, watch the Kremlin invent some tenuous link to Ukraine. It's already happening.



You are right, they will do that. Just like the gasline explosion was tenuously linked to Russia which is also bullshit.
False equivalent, some pipeline sabotage versus mass murder of civilians.
In any event Russia had previous form  recent enough with gas pipeline sabotage, just as the Kremlin had plenty of form  with mass murder of its own citizens.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
March 23, 2024, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 23, 2024, 06:46:44 PMThe DRA decision on over turning the suspension is illuminating on a lot that has been discussed here.

From memory (as I haven't read the decision since it was published) RG stood down voluntarily from Derry role shortly after the allegations surfaced. Ulster GAA initially incorrectly thought this was from all GAA roles and were subsequently slow to disbar him.

RG was disbarred through rules dealing with adult safeguarding which conflicted with and did not explicitly disallow the rules in the official guide (unlike the rules relating to child safeguarding). They were therefore void.

On a more general point. The GAA are duty bound to investigate any complaint about any member to the best of their ability if that complaint has the potential to raise safeguarding issues.
Safeguarding issues do not apply to Rory Gallagher.
QuoteThe GAA are not bound by criminal court decisions where there is a higher burden of proof and will make all decisions on the balance of probabilities.

Family courts are confidential and the GAA will not be given information in respect of them. The outcome of the family courts is largely irrelevant as a result. It was mentioned here that abusive fathers are more likely to get custody than unsuitable mothers. That isn't really accurate. It's not a zero sum equation. If the court has concerns over both parents it's more likely to place children into care or into the care of other suitable family members.
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It is accurate in cases  which would resemble  the type of RG v Nicola and apparently there are many of these type of cases.  RG was not charged with any abuse. We are not talking about a dodgy Davy Tweed looking for custody after being cleared of all charges on a technicality, after spending 4 years in jail and the prosecutor dropped the case due to lack of something.
In a situation where you have a determined, combatant, solid articulate father, with no case of abuse to answer to,  with boxes of references and more than competent legal representation  versus a partner who has allegedly (but crucially not proven) suffered long term abuse and has acquired an addiction of sorts. The father would  most likely gain custody even if decent testimony was offered  to support amother's claims of abuse.
What I am saying is that a father being awarded custody does not vindicate the father from allegations of spousal abuse as is being claimed by some posters here.


#9
General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
March 23, 2024, 04:56:05 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2024, 02:37:04 PM3 body problem on Netflix. Proper make you think Sci Fi, only 2 episodes in but I'm hooked.
Looks interesting  but I'll listen to the audio books first.
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
March 23, 2024, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 23, 2024, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on March 23, 2024, 01:47:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 23, 2024, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 23, 2024, 12:54:02 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 23, 2024, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 23, 2024, 09:53:54 AMWere DJ Carey, Gerard Cavlan or Darren Gleeson ever banned?
Speaking of completely irrelevant tangents; and this is purely hypothetical here... but if allegations were to emerge of a former county player/county manager committing child abuse, what happens then?

If the alleged victim was to go public on social media with a lengthy post detailing allegations dating back 27 years, do we take it at face value or do we dismiss it as one person's word against another's?
When  allegations of violence against women/kids are reported to the police and they start an investigation, then the GAA are obliged by charter to stand down the accused  ntil the investigation is over. This did not happen in Nicola's case. RG was not stood down while the police investigated her allegations twice, sent  the files on to the prosecutor where they were dropped. As it stands now for RG in the GAA code book world, he's free to take up any coaching appointment. I doubt if there is any process for investigating a breach of GAA ethics or what could even be defined as a breach. Possibly if there was an attack on a woman on GAA property?
 
On other matters,
a father accused of abuse being awarded custody of the kids is in itself not a vindication of the father, as the UK courts/social services  (even when presented with believable testimony) are likely to deem a spouse abusing husband a safer bet than an addicted or alcohol troubled mother. Even going for full custody is another form of abuse to punish the abused spouse.  Can an abuser expertly manipulate? does a bear shite in the woods?




What charter is this? Any examples of this charter being adhered to in relation to other investigations previously?

I'd assume he means the safeguarding policy.

I'm not sure the sequence of events describe here are correct though. It was my understanding the investigation happened long before any of these claims had been made online. So by the time his ex wife put it in the public domain the police investigation had already happened. In that case, the gaa has no grounds to do anything and also shouldn't be questioning any social services decisions around his kids.

I could be wrong g on the sequencing, but that was my understanding of what happened.

Just to reiterate though, if he was proved to have done what he was accused of, I'd be the first to say only place for him is prison.

This relates to the safeguarding of children though does it not?
It's the White Ribbon Charter that (at least) Ulster GAA has signed up to

The White Ribbon Campaign is a global movement to end male violence against women and send out the message that male violence against women in all its forms is unacceptable.

Women's Aid ABCLN White Ribbon Co-ordinator, Tahnee McCorry said: "The White Ribbon campaign challenges the attitudes and behaviours that lead to end domestic abuse in all its forms. With one in four women affected by domestic abuse in their lifetime, staying silent is not an option.
"We welcome Ulster GAA's commitment to stand with us and help create a society where all women can live in safety, free from violence and abuse."
#11
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
March 23, 2024, 12:54:02 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 23, 2024, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 23, 2024, 09:53:54 AMWere DJ Carey, Gerard Cavlan or Darren Gleeson ever banned?
Speaking of completely irrelevant tangents; and this is purely hypothetical here... but if allegations were to emerge of a former county player/county manager committing child abuse, what happens then?

If the alleged victim was to go public on social media with a lengthy post detailing allegations dating back 27 years, do we take it at face value or do we dismiss it as one person's word against another's?
When  allegations of violence against women/kids are reported to the police and they start an investigation, then the GAA are obliged by charter to stand down the accused  ntil the investigation is over. This did not happen in Nicola's case. RG was not stood down while the police investigated her allegations twice, sent  the files on to the prosecutor where they were dropped. As it stands now for RG in the GAA code book world, he's free to take up any coaching appointment. I doubt if there is any process for investigating a breach of GAA ethics or what could even be defined as a breach. Possibly if there was an attack on a woman on GAA property?
 
On other matters,
a father accused of abuse being awarded custody of the kids is in itself not a vindication of the father, as the UK courts/social services  (even when presented with believable testimony) are likely to deem a spouse abusing husband a safer bet than an addicted or alcohol troubled mother. Even going for full custody is another form of abuse to punish the abused spouse.  Can an abuser expertly manipulate? does a bear shite in the woods?


#12
First impression was that it's straight out the chapters in 'Killer in the Kremlin', an account on the 1999 apartment bombings in Moscow and more.



but now I read some bizarre stuff on CBS News: US informed Russia of pending terror attack under "Duty to Inform""A U.S. official tells CBS News the U.S. has intelligence confirming the Islamic State's claims of responsibility, and that they have no reason to doubt those claims.



#13
Some light relief this evening with Iceland beating Israel 4-1 in the euro play offs.

The mood was not so sporting in the aftermath of the draw when Iceland coach, respected veteran Norwegian Age Hareide said among other things, "that he would have preferred not to play against Israel, but Iceland cannot refuse it due to impending punishments from UEFA. Hareide said that his opinion was that this game should not have been played because of the situation in Gaza and what the Israelis had done to women, children and other innocent citizens in the area."

naturally Israel zionists went apeshít, none other than  zionist Avram Grant entered the domain
"I saw what Iceland's coach said. I don't know him personally, but I'm upset that he should mix sports with something he has no knowledge of. But I want to ask him a few questions. First, I would like to state that I am against the victimization of ordinary citizens and it saddens me when this happens.

But one must remember that it all started with the massacre of Hamas members. So I want to ask the coach: Why didn't you say anything about the massacre in Israel on October 7? Why didn't you say: I am broken because of all the women who were raped, because of the children who were beheaded, because of the old people who were burned alive? Because of parents who were shot in front of their children,"


Hounded by Israeli reporters at press conferences before the game tonight, Age replied
"I come from a nation where freedom of speech prevails and you can express your opinions. As for this, I think some of what I said got washed up in translation and taken out of context. I am interested in politics, I know all about the hostage situation, and I also said later that the hostages should be freed, the hostilities should be stopped and peace should be established. I come from a peaceful nation and do not take a position in politics. We play against footballers and that is the most important thing. Many of Israel's players have played across Europe and I have nothing against them."

Avram Grant called out the Iceland coach as a hypocrite
Do you understand what the Israelis have been through, will you shake their hand before and after the game tomorrow?

Age Hareide
"Yes of course these are footballers like us and I don't think it's right to get into political discussions around this game. They are often misunderstood in translation. I just wanted to say, we play football and we have to play this game. The tournaments and games have been planned for a long time and we didn't know who we would face. We are also going to play with Israeli footballers, not with the Israeli people, that is the most important thing."

And then there is the result Iceland 4-1 Israel

#14
General discussion / Re: The DUP thread
March 19, 2024, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: LC on March 19, 2024, 05:06:22 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 19, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 17, 2024, 07:52:10 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 02:26:24 PMAllister talking through his hole. He was the only Prod in his Queens law class in...1974?
I'm not sure that's what he said.
He said that he was the first person in 10 years from his school, while there were 12 from St Whatever's.

Though I still wouldn't rule out that he was talking through his hole.

First post underneath the video dispels that myth right away.

Far be it from me, but Bryson was right in his reply (jesus, I can't believe I'm typing this) but continue on with your studies and work for a better future, it's what was driven into us from the 70's on, get an education as you won't be able to walk into a job in the shipyard/Shorts/Civil Service/Peelers like our Protestant neighbours.

Equality can be a bollox when you're used to entitlement.

Jim's bitterness in relation to the current judiciary is great  ;D



It says everything when the likes of Jamie and Co are only figuring this out now.
Jamie didn't take his bigotry to task, with him full of resentment and fear (supposedly) being surrounded by GAA shirts at law school. Jamie's message was plough on son to the end, we need bigot lawyers (not lawyers without bigotry).
#15
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
March 16, 2024, 09:32:33 PM
Both teams were flat out at the end but Tyrone were that bit more more clinical when it was required.
I'll look forward to a rematch should Monaghan get past Cavan. McManus looks even sharper than last year and the return of Mohan adds much needed gravitas, just waiting now on O'Hanlon to get fit.