Down Club Hurling & Football

[rosskarr]

Johhny why do a lot of lads not play development squad football?
Genuine question

Society has changed a lot. The clamour of playing for a development squad doesn't appeal to some young lads, some clubs don't encourage their players to go to trials/training, and the biggest reason is because some of the lads on the squad can't get on their club team but are playing/training with the best in the county because of who they are etc. that hasn't changed in the last 20 years and won't change going forward until dads are not allowed to work with their own.

I doubt this claim. Are you saying there are lads on Dev. Squads who don't get on their own Club team at the same age group?

[manwithnoplan]

Johhny why do a lot of lads not play development squad football?
Genuine question

Society has changed a lot. The clamour of playing for a development squad doesn't appeal to some young lads, some clubs don't encourage their players to go to trials/training, and the biggest reason is because some of the lads on the squad can't get on their club team but are playing/training with the best in the county because of who they are etc. that hasn't changed in the last 20 years and won't change going forward until dads are not allowed to work with their own.

Fairly ridiculous statement about dad's there. Sure remove 75% of the underage coaches in the county.

[Hard2Listen2]

Mark Doran part of Clare management team.
Long trip but great opportunity to coach at a high level.
Best of luck to him.

[Johnnysboys]

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  I doubt this claim. Are you saying there are lads on Dev. Squads who don't get on their own Club team at the same age group?
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Young Cunningham from Burren a couple of years ago. A disgrace of a situation.

And there are a load of clubs out there who don't allow parents work with their own mwnp - if they want to help out at the club - great but it will be with a different age group. I think it's a fantastic idea.

[Smurfy123]

I think you will find that young lad did start fr Burren that year.

So the reason lads don't play development squad is the clamour doesn't appeal to some? So that rules them out

So no parents allowed manage their kids. Yep that would work well in 90% of clubs

[supersub]

Tell me this. Do you reckon lumping the ball in from 60 yards repeatedly a la 'the great Down v Derry game' (DJ Kane main culprit) is a better way of playing football than how it is played now? Because I tell you what, I watched that game recently and it wasn't exactly pretty on the eye.

Who suggested lumping the ball in from 60 yards was a better way to play.
Lets be honest, football is shite nowadays for a variety of reasons and a huge responsibility lies at the feet of ego-driven coaches/managers and those that appoint them.

I'm just asking the question. A lot of opinions here seem to be of the 'back in my day football was better'. So just curious as to how it was better that's all.

[terrifictommy]

The game was played to win, unlike now when the the goal seems firmly not to lose. Even when the opposition are vulnerable.
The game has changed significantly, the pace, power and athleticism isn't what it was before either.

[Truth hurts]

The game was played to win, unlike now when the the goal seems firmly not to lose. Even when the opposition are vulnerable.
The game has changed significantly, the pace, power and athleticism isn't what it was before either.

Yes the pace, power and athleticism is far higher than it ever was

[thewobbler]

Tell me this. Do you reckon lumping the ball in from 60 yards repeatedly a la 'the great Down v Derry game' (DJ Kane main culprit) is a better way of playing football than how it is played now? Because I tell you what, I watched that game recently and it wasn't exactly pretty on the eye.

Who suggested lumping the ball in from 60 yards was a better way to play.
Lets be honest, football is shite nowadays for a variety of reasons and a huge responsibility lies at the feet of ego-driven coaches/managers and those that appoint them.

I'm just asking the question. A lot of opinions here seem to be of the 'back in my day football was better'. So just curious as to how it was better that's all.

Not better per se. But definitely a hell of a lot more fun to play and watch.

It drove me half mad playing with teammates who would kick first then look later. But it drove me completely mad playing all county reserves 2 years ago (mid season, mid table clash against a team from up the county) against a team who retreated into their own half for every restart.

And for all the physique and specialised conditioning of modern players, I don't believe they're as fit as they tell us. Those long periods of endless retention provide room for a breather that we never got.

Last. Re rewatching games. There have been approximately zero games (not involving Mayo) since 2012 at club or county level worthy of a rewatch.

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I do think there was something of a golden period of football in the noughties; a time when the players were conditioned and teams played to set styles/tactics - but the style usually involved mostly "old fashioned" positions and a kicking game.

Then the game became too tactical. And now, it's shite.

[Truth hurts]

I see the u20 championship starts this weekend with only 6 teams in the A competition and 12 in the B section. Some big clubs in the B section who have been competing well at the minor level in previous years so I don't see why they are down-competing with smaller clubs, that's not fair. IMO

[rosskarr]

I see the u20 championship starts this weekend with only 6 teams in the A competition and 12 in the B section. Some big clubs in the B section who have been competing well at the minor level in previous years so I don't see why they are down-competing with smaller clubs, that's not fair. IMO

It's drop-off and University attendance overseas or down South that could be the reason.

[manwithnoplan]

I see the u20 championship starts this weekend with only 6 teams in the A competition and 12 in the B section. Some big clubs in the B section who have been competing well at the minor level in previous years so I don't see why they are down-competing with smaller clubs, that's not fair. IMO

It's drop-off and University attendance overseas or down South that could be the reason.

That and the lads that age prefer not to play on cold, wet Sunday mornings with a raging hangover.

[MajorShields26]

Will down final be on rte? Probably not the establishment hate the boys from down especially after kilcoo and burren antics last time game was on rte. Also on this any more news on burren managment? Need to start getting best from young boys and get a young manager in to help with this. Another suggestion I thought of in past few days was Darragh O'Hanlon from kilcoo. Could cause a bit of controversy with kilcoo faithful but I'm sure it would boost his management career.

[Truth hurts]

Will down final be on rte? Probably not the establishment hate the boys from down especially after kilcoo and burren antics last time game was on rte. Also on this any more news on burren managment? Need to start getting best from young boys and get a young manager in to help with this. Another suggestion I thought of in past few days was Darragh O'Hanlon from kilcoo. Could cause a bit of controversy with kilcoo faithful but I'm sure it would boost his management career.

Yes I think that's a great idea and he should take the Red Devlin and Barry McEvoy in with him.

[Oglach]

Will down final be on rte? Probably not the establishment hate the boys from down especially after kilcoo and burren antics last time game was on rte. Also on this any more news on burren managment? Need to start getting best from young boys and get a young manager in to help with this. Another suggestion I thought of in past few days was Darragh O'Hanlon from kilcoo. Could cause a bit of controversy with kilcoo faithful but I'm sure it would boost his management career.

Yes I think that's a great idea and he should take the Red Devlin and Barry McEvoy in with him.

😂😂 can't see it.